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  • jabberwockie
    • Apr 2014
    • 11

    Write ID tags; HDCD checked

    Under options, metadata, options, write ID tags, I have HDCD "checked" and yet I have several disks that have been detected as being HDCD's but I don’t see the metadata on the files.
    Missing something?
  • mville
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Dec 2008
    • 4018

    #2
    Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

    Originally posted by jabberwockie
    Under options, metadata, options, write ID tags, I have HDCD "checked" and yet I have several disks that have been detected as being HDCD's but I don&*8217;t see the metadata on the files.
    Which platform/OS, dBpoweramp version, output file format?

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    • jabberwockie
      • Apr 2014
      • 11

      #3
      Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

      Originally posted by mville
      Which platform/OS, dBpoweramp version, output file format?
      windows 7, dbpoweramp 64-bit: Registered Reference release 15, output to both flac lossless Uncompressed and apple lossless with DSP effects HD HDCD (+6 dB amplifications "checked)

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      • mville
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Dec 2008
        • 4018

        #4
        Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

        Originally posted by jabberwockie
        windows 7, dbpoweramp 64-bit: Registered Reference release 15, output to both flac lossless Uncompressed and apple lossless with DSP effects HD HDCD (+6 dB amplifications "checked)
        In CDRipper with your HDCD inserted:

        1. Do you have HDCD listed for all tracks, under the Track Technical column?

        2. Do you have the HDCD tag listed with a value 'Yes', in the Meta tab, Meta Data for All Tracks (bottom centre of main CDRipper window)?

        If you have neither, what happens if you don't Rip to [Multi Encoder], i.e. Rip to FLAC?

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        • jabberwockie
          • Apr 2014
          • 11

          #5
          Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

          Originally posted by mville
          In CDRipper with your HDCD inserted:

          1. Do you have HDCD listed for all tracks, under the Track Technical column?

          2. Do you have the HDCD tag listed with a value 'Yes', in the Meta tab, Meta Data for All Tracks (bottom centre of main CDRipper window)?

          If you have neither, what happens if you don't Rip to [Multi Encoder], i.e. Rip to FLAC?
          "Yes" for * 1 and *2

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          • mville
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Dec 2008
            • 4018

            #6
            Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

            Originally posted by jabberwockie
            "Yes" for * 1 and *2
            ... and there is no HDCD tag in your ripped flac files?

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            • jabberwockie
              • Apr 2014
              • 11

              #7
              Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

              Originally posted by mville
              ... and there is no HDCD tag in your ripped flac files?
              There is NO HDCD tag in my ripped flac file.

              here is the audio properties:
              Artist Jim Brickman
              Title The Promise
              Album Simple Things
              Track 1/13
              Disc 1/1
              Genre New Age
              Year 2001
              Rating 5
              Composer Jim Brickman
              Size 31.31 MB (29% Compressed)
              Original Size 44.03 MB
              Length 2 minutes 54 seconds
              Channels 2 (stereo)
              Sample Rate 44.1 KHz;
              Sample Size 24 bit
              Bit Rate 2,116 kbps (DVD)
              Encoder FLAC reference libFLAC 1.3.0 20130526
              Encoder Settings
              Audio Quality Perfect (Lossless)
              Contains Album Art, CRC, ID Tag [Vorbis Comments]
              Channel Mapping
              File 01- Jim Brickman - The Promise
              Type VLC media file (.flac) [.flac]

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              • mville
                dBpoweramp Guru
                • Dec 2008
                • 4018

                #8
                Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

                Originally posted by jabberwockie
                There is NO HDCD tag in my ripped flac file.

                here is the audio properties:
                Artist Jim Brickman
                Title The Promise
                Album Simple Things
                ...
                It might not show in audio properties. Two things to try.

                Right-click the same file and select Edit ID-Tag, is HDCD tag listed?

                Have you tried ripping without using [Multi-Encoder]? I have just tested ripping to FLAC only and the HDCD tag is being written (Windows 8.1 64-bit, dBpoweramp R15.3).

                Last edited by mville; September 08, 2015, 01:29 AM. Reason: added pic

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                • jabberwockie
                  • Apr 2014
                  • 11

                  #9
                  Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

                  Originally posted by mville
                  It might not show in audio properties. Two things to try.

                  Right-click the same file and select Edit ID-Tag, is HDCD tag listed?

                  Have you tried ripping without using [Multi-Encoder]? I have just tested ripping to FLAC only and the HDCD tag is being written (Windows 8.1 64-bit, dBpoweramp R15.3).

                  HDCD tag was added when I ripped without multi-encoder. Seems to be a bug with the multiencoder.

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                  • jabberwockie
                    • Apr 2014
                    • 11

                    #10
                    Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

                    Originally posted by mville
                    It might not show in audio properties. Two things to try.

                    Right-click the same file and select Edit ID-Tag, is HDCD tag listed?

                    Have you tried ripping without using [Multi-Encoder]? I have just tested ripping to FLAC only and the HDCD tag is being written (Windows 8.1 64-bit, dBpoweramp R15.3).

                    HDCD tag was added when I didn't use the multi-encoder. Seems to be a bug with the multi-encoder.

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                    • Spoon
                      Administrator
                      • Apr 2002
                      • 44093

                      #11
                      Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

                      It is just a design limitation.
                      Spoon
                      www.dbpoweramp.com

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                      • jabberwockie
                        • Apr 2014
                        • 11

                        #12
                        Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

                        HDCD tag is displaying now that I have multi-encoder turned off. Seems to be a bug with the multi-encoder.
                        Last edited by jabberwockie; September 08, 2015, 01:19 PM. Reason: posting

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                        • mville
                          dBpoweramp Guru
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4018

                          #13
                          Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

                          Originally posted by jabberwockie
                          HDCD tag is displaying now that I have multi-encoder turned off. Seems to be a bug with the multi-encoder.
                          Yes, sorry, I alluded to Multi Encoder as a possible cause to the problem earlier in the thread, but I could have been a little clearer.

                          IMO, Multi Encoder is more trouble than it's worth.

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                          • jabberwockie
                            • Apr 2014
                            • 11

                            #14
                            Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

                            Originally posted by mville
                            Yes, sorry, I alluded to Multi Encoder as a possible cause to the problem earlier in the thread, but I could have been a little clearer.

                            IMO, Multi Encoder is more trouble than it's worth.
                            does any of this find its way back to the folks that develop the tool? be good to get this resolved.

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                            • Porcus
                              dBpoweramp Guru
                              • Feb 2007
                              • 792

                              #15
                              Re: Write ID tags; HDCD checked

                              Weighing in with some uneducated points (I have not ripped CDs with this option);

                              - A lot of CDs are "HDCD" but with no features employed. Could it be that those are not tagged?

                              - Can dBpoweramp now scan and tag without decoding? IMHO one should not decode HDCDs when ripping to lossless (https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthr...l=1*post119732)
                              and especially not on a tracks basis - it seems to me (though I could be wrong) that then the HDCD decoding is reset at track boundaries and does not start until a bit into the track: https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/in...dpost&p=905120

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