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  • Simon Moakes
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    As already suggested above, you should always tick the "Compilation" field when ripping compilation CD's, otherwise all the tracks will not sort under the same album name when viewing in any music software.

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  • mville
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    Originally posted by Simon Moakes
    The simplest way to solve your problem is to substitute [artist] at the beginning of your string with [album artist]. This will primarily sort all your rips under the album artist you choose. Therefore single artist albums will be ripped to a folder named after the sole artist and/or band name, and compilations will be ripped into a folder under whatever input you choose: "Compilations" or "Various Artists" respectively. The rest of your string can remain the same.

    If you are importing and/or listening to your tracks in iTunes then I would recommend naming multi artist CD's as "Compilations", as this is Apple's standard sorting format. If using a NAS drive use "Various Artists" instead.

    I don't see why anybody should have to over complicate the string by inserting any [IFVALUE] [IFCOMP] [IF!COMP] [IFMULTI] nonsense. Clean and simple is best.
    I'm not sure I completely agree here. Clean and simple may be best for you, but does not always work, given the plethora of media players and servers out there.

    IMO, it is better to get your tags right from the start, in a way that makes your tags as compatible with all media players and servers, as they can be. What you don't want is build up a huge media library and later down the line find you need to edit thousands of tags.

    I suggest you try to use the tagging standards that have developed over many years, instead of shoehorning your tags for a specific software developer, especially not Apple who haven't got a clue.

    Yes, use the Album Artist tag instead of the Artist tag in your naming string. But, IMO, when ripping compilations you should set Album Artist to "Various Artists" AND set the Compilation flag (post ripping, add the Compilation tag with a value of 1).

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  • garym
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    Originally posted by Simon Moakes
    I don't see why anybody should have to over complicate the string by inserting any [IFVALUE] [IFCOMP] [IF!COMP] [IFMULTI] nonsense. Clean and simple is best.
    It is not "nonsense" when a user doesn't use ALBUM ARTIST except for compilations or wants to automatically deal with multidisk CDs. In any case, beauty of the software is that it is flexible enough to meet many users needs. The following dynamic string works automatically to deal with compilations (or noncompilations) and for single disk and multdisk CDs. copy and paste it in. Simple! If you prefer "Various Artists" directory instead of "Compilations" directory, replace "Compilations" below with "Various Artists".

    [IFCOMP]Compilations\[album] [IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track]-[title]-[artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track]-[title][]
    edit: you mention naming the track as "artist - title". You might consider using "track - title - artist" so that the track number is at the beginning of the track file name. That way when you look at the files in something like file explorer, they are sorted by track order. I use the setting to make the track numbers 2 digits (so 02 comes before 10, etc.).
    Last edited by garym; March 17, 2015, 11:40 AM.

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  • Simon Moakes
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    Originally posted by naimconvert
    Hello
    I have just purchase dBpoweramp/CD ripper to Rip my CD collection to my NAS.
    I have managed to successfully rip FLAC to one folder and MP3 to another. I have set things so that it dynamically saves as [artist]\[album]\[artist] - [title]and so far so good. (everything looks nice and tidy )
    Then when I tried to rip Now 89 I noticed it has saves each individual artiest in a separate folder, when you click on the artiest it has an album called Now 89 and then inside that folder is the individual song.
    The program recognises that its a compilation but does not save it as one. To save me hours of reading can any tell me how to get round this?
    Thanks for your help.
    The simplest way to solve your problem is to substitute [artist] at the beginning of your string with [album artist]. This will primarily sort all your rips under the album artist you choose. Therefore single artist albums will be ripped to a folder named after the sole artist and/or band name, and compilations will be ripped into a folder under whatever input you choose: "Compilations" or "Various Artists" respectively. The rest of your string can remain the same.

    If you are importing and/or listening to your tracks in iTunes then I would recommend naming multi artist CD's as "Compilations", as this is Apple's standard sorting format. If using a NAS drive use "Various Artists" instead.

    I don't see why anybody should have to over complicate the string by inserting any [IFVALUE] [IFCOMP] [IF!COMP] [IFMULTI] nonsense. Clean and simple is best.

    I use [album artist]/[album]/[disc]-[track] [title]. This maximises sorting order compatibility with all operating systems and NAS drives when browsing the original files on a Mac (Finder), PC (Windows Explorer), NAS, or smart TV. You should note that music software will always use the embedded tags and not your file naming convention, so I do not see the need to add [artist] anywhere within the string. However, if you feel you need to have the artist displayed within the file name use [album artist]/[album]/[disc]-[track] [title] - [artist] instead.

    Hope this helps.
    Last edited by Simon Moakes; March 17, 2015, 11:43 AM.

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  • garym
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    Originally posted by les_ducote
    I think i figured out part of the problem. I am using the apple lossless and flac multi encoder. I tried ripping just flac and it seems to work just fine. but combined it isn't...
    I don't use multiencoder, but I understand that you have two independent places to setup your dynamic naming. Make sure you're using the right string in both places.

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  • les_ducote
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    I think i figured out part of the problem. I am using the apple lossless and flac multi encoder. I tried ripping just flac and it seems to work just fine. but combined it isn't...

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  • les_ducote
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    Thank you, I will give that a try

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  • garym
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    Originally posted by les_ducote
    What is happening is the compilation artists is broken down into multiple folders by artist instead of one folder for various artists. I have copied and pasted both of the suggestions posted earlier and i keep getting the same results. Under naming I currently have this currently [IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[IFCOMP]Various Artists[][IF!COMP][album artist][][]/[album]/[track] [artist] - [title] & under the dynamic setting i have [artist]/[album]/[track] [artist] - [title]. id like to have it set up to where i can rip a regular cd or a compilation without having to change any of the settings around each time.
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    did you try this I posted earlier:

    [IFCOMP]Compilations\[album] [IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track]-[title]-[artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track]-[title][]




    This works for all my rips without changing anything. Compilations go into a "compilations" subdirectory instead of an artist subdirectory. Then the albums are in subdirectories under either COMPILATIONS or ARTIST for noncompilations. For Artist, if ALBUM ARTIST exists, it uses that, otherwise it uses ARTIST. And if any of these are multidisk CDs, it handles that too. THE KEY FOR COMPILATIONS IS THAT WHEN RIPPING YOU MUST TICK THE COMPILATION BOX ON THE RIPPER PAGE SO THAT DBPA KNOWS IT IS A COMPILATION.
    EDIT. i think I see the problem. what do you mean by using naming and dynamic naming. that doesn't make sense. there is only one place. You're not putting the string above into dynamic naming it seems. it should look like these pictures:

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  • les_ducote
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    What is happening is the compilation artists is broken down into multiple folders by artist instead of one folder for various artists. I have copied and pasted both of the suggestions posted earlier and i keep getting the same results. Under naming I currently have this currently [IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[IFCOMP]Various Artists[][IF!COMP][album artist][][]/[album]/[track] [artist] - [title] & under the dynamic setting i have [artist]/[album]/[track] [artist] - [title]. id like to have it set up to where i can rip a regular cd or a compilation without having to change any of the settings around each time.

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  • naimconvert
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    Originally posted by les_ducote
    I am having a similar problem and i have tried everything above and I'm having no luck... I am using the r1.1 for OS X.
    Hi. I Used the [IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[IFCOMP]Various Artists[][IF!COMP][artist][][]\[album]\[track] [artist] - [title] as suggested by Simon and it solved my problem. Is this not working for you?

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  • garym
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    Originally posted by les_ducote
    I am having a similar problem and i have tried everything above and I'm having no luck... I am using the r1.1 for OS X.
    please clarify, as the above info solved the other poster's problem. What are you trying to achieve, what naming string are you using now, and what are you getting as output that you don't want?
    Last edited by garym; March 13, 2015, 12:37 AM.

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  • les_ducote
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    I am having a similar problem and i have tried everything above and I'm having no luck... I am using the r1.1 for OS X.

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  • garym
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    Originally posted by naimconvert
    Thanks. Is there a way you can set it so that it is not filed into a folder call various artist and then the album name, but just album name for the complications. but then when normal CD, it reverts back to being saved back under artist name, them album?
    yes, use this instead.

    [IFCOMP][album] [IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track]-[title]-[artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track]-[title][]



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  • naimconvert
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    Thanks. Is there a way you can set it so that it is not filed into a folder call various artist and then the album name, but just album name for the complications. but then when normal CD, it reverts back to being saved back under artist name, them album?

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  • garym
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    here's another example (what I use) that deals automatically with albumartist vs artist, compilations, and multidisk CDs.

    [IFCOMP]Compilations\[album] [IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track]-[title]-[artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track]-[title][]

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