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  • eviL

    • Apr 2013
    • 12

    How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Ok, I heard that you can verify a previously ripped FLAC album with some software called CueTools.. What I need is a step-by-step guide of exactly how do I verify the album, probably using AccurateRup database or idk.. So yeah, that's what I need. Help please.
  • garym
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • Nov 2007
    • 5878

    #2
    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    To verify previously ripped FLAC album, use PerfectTunes, from here:

    dBpoweramp: mp3 converter, FLAC, WAV, AAC and Apple Losslesss. CD Ripper, Album Art Fixing, Asset UPnP Server


    Optimizing your music collection can be a daunting task, from tracks with missing metadata tags (track, artist, album names), albums missing artwork, duplicated tracks, to corrupted tracks, typically correcting these issues can be a time consuming task. No longer, imagine if a trained professional was on hand to help,


    CueTools is a different (nonIllustrate program). A thread on it is here:

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    • garym
      dBpoweramp Guru

      • Nov 2007
      • 5878

      #3
      Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

      1. install perfecttunes from above link
      2. go to Perfect tunes in program listing and execute ProgramTUNES Accuratereip
      3. it will initially start looking for you music in a certain music subdirectory. Pause it, then select the tool icon in upper right, then you can remove directories or add directories. If you just want to examine a single album, add just that directory. Otherwise you can point it at the top level of your music directory and it will start checking ALL your albums for accuraterip match.

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      • eviL

        • Apr 2013
        • 12

        #4
        Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

        Originally posted by garym
        1. install perfecttunes from above link
        2. go to Perfect tunes in program listing and execute ProgramTUNES Accuratereip
        3. it will initially start looking for you music in a certain music subdirectory. Pause it, then select the tool icon in upper right, then you can remove directories or add directories. If you just want to examine a single album, add just that directory. Otherwise you can point it at the top level of your music directory and it will start checking ALL your albums for accuraterip match.
        Is that the best way/program/most reliable for verifying FLAC rips?

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        • eviL

          • Apr 2013
          • 12

          #5
          Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

          Ok, I tried to verify an album. Here's the result of Adele's '21':
          Code:
          Adele - 21
            Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6D980106]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\01 - Rolling In The Deep.flac
            Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 09C6DF36]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\02 - Rumour Has It.flac
            Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 81353C76]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\03 - Turning Tabels.flac
            Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8EE5CF59]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\04 - Don't You Remember.flac
            Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 7BE0A7D8]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\05 - Set Fire To The Rain.flac
            Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC DA41FB81]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\06 - He Won't Go.flac
            Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 1A3E111E]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\07 - Take It All.flac
            Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 655D8EA9]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\08 - I'll Be Waiting.flac
            Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 4D66062F]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\09 - One And Only.flac
            Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 242BF1C3]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\10 - Lovesong.flac
            Track 11: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 2E0B31F0]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\11 - Someone Like You.flac
            Track 12: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6152FD2B]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\12 - If It Hadn't Been For Love.flac
            Track 13: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 0F584945]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\13 - Hiding My Heart.flac
          Does all that say that it's a perfect rip and 100% identical to the CD quality? What's offset +0 and ARv2...

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          • Spoon
            Administrator
            • Apr 2002
            • 44481

            #6
            Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

            >AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111

            This means your rip matches 111 other rips, your rip is 100% identical to the CD.

            Offset comes from either the CD drive or different batch of CDs (pressing runs), it does not affect the sound quality. ARv2 is the CRC method used to match.
            Spoon
            www.dbpoweramp.com

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            • eviL

              • Apr 2013
              • 12

              #7
              Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

              Originally posted by Spoon
              >AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111

              This means your rip matches 111 other rips, your rip is 100% identical to the CD.

              Offset comes from either the CD drive or different batch of CDs (pressing runs), it does not affect the sound quality. ARv2 is the CRC method used to match.
              So this is the most reliable/best way/program to verify if the rip has been properly ripped and identical to the CD quality?
              And also, is there a way to verify just one file not a whole album?

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              • garym
                dBpoweramp Guru

                • Nov 2007
                • 5878

                #8
                Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

                Originally posted by eviL
                So this is the most reliable/best way/program to verify if the rip has been properly ripped and identical to the CD quality?
                And also, is there a way to verify just one file not a whole album?
                yes, getting even "1" match to someone else's rip is excellent verification, and the best option available anywhere. No, you can't verify single tracks (yet), only albums as far as I know.,

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                • eviL

                  • Apr 2013
                  • 12

                  #9
                  Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

                  Originally posted by garym
                  yes, getting even "1" match to someone else's rip is excellent verification, and the best option available anywhere. No, you can't verify single tracks (yet), only albums as far as I know.,
                  Not sure who is developing the program but there should be an option for single-file verification.. Hopefully there will be in the future. Anyway, thanks for replying and helping. Always appreciated.


                  P.S. What does that mean:
                  CueTools is a different (nonIllustrate program). A thread on it is here:
                  http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...33&hl=cuetools
                  nonillustrate?

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                  • eviL

                    • Apr 2013
                    • 12

                    #10
                    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

                    Something's not right.

                    Code:
                    EAC extraction logfile from 19. November 2008, 23:30 for CD
                    Coldplay / Parachutes
                    
                    Used drive  : ATAPI CDROM DRIVE-50MAX   Adapter: 0  ID: 3
                    Read mode   : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
                    Read offset correction : 12
                    Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
                    
                    Used output format : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe   (User Defined Encoder)
                                         192 kBit/s
                                         Additional command line options : -8 -A tukey(0.25) -A gauss(0.1875) -b 4096 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s --sector-align
                    
                    Other options      : 
                        Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
                        Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
                        Installed external ASPI interface
                    
                    
                    Track  1
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\01 - Coldplay - Don't Panic.wav
                    
                         Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC 47355552
                         Copy CRC 47355552
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track  2
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\02 - Coldplay - Shiver.wav
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC 7A2C30ED
                         Copy CRC 7A2C30ED
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track  3
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\03 - Coldplay - Spies.wav
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC 36C7F7C3
                         Copy CRC 36C7F7C3
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track  4
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\04 - Coldplay - Sparks.wav
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC DA3F795B
                         Copy CRC DA3F795B
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track  5
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\05 - Coldplay - Yellow.wav
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC C16BCE47
                         Copy CRC C16BCE47
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track  6
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\06 - Coldplay - Trouble.wav
                    
                         Pre-gap length  0:00:00.06
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC 7986A29D
                         Copy CRC 7986A29D
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track  7
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\07 - Coldplay - Parachutes.wav
                    
                         Pre-gap length  0:00:00.02
                    
                         Peak level 82.2 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC FB11FE06
                         Copy CRC FB11FE06
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track  8
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\08 - Coldplay - High Speed.wav
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC ABC0DE84
                         Copy CRC ABC0DE84
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track  9
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\09 - Coldplay - We Never Change.wav
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 100.0 %
                         Test CRC 17488E08
                         Copy CRC 17488E08
                         Copy OK
                    
                    Track 10
                         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\10 - Coldplay - Everything's Not Lost.wav
                    
                         Peak level 100.0 %
                         Track quality 99.9 %
                         Test CRC BD0866A2
                         Copy CRC BD0866A2
                         Copy OK
                    
                    No errors occured
                    
                    
                    End of status report
                    Code:
                    Coldplay - Parachutes
                      Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC E17EAC17]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\01 - Coldplay - Don't Panic.flac
                      Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8F4345FA]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\02 - Coldplay - Shiver.flac
                      Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC AFD25F29]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\03 - Coldplay - Spies.flac
                      Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 98934068]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\04 - Coldplay - Sparks.flac
                      Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6605142A]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\05 - Coldplay - Yellow.flac
                      Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 66CF23BF]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\06 - Coldplay - Trouble.flac
                      Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 76094FDD]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\07 - Coldplay - Parachutes.flac
                      Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 65D0CCD5]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\08 - Coldplay - High Speed.flac
                      Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 23435BC4]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\09 - Coldplay - We Never Change.flac
                      Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 91745DB1]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\10 - Coldplay - Everything's Not Lost.flac
                    The .log for 'Parachutes' says: Read offset correction : 12
                    The .log that PerfectTunes delivers in the end of verifying says: Offset +0

                    Why are those different?

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                    • eviL

                      • Apr 2013
                      • 12

                      #11
                      Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

                      Also, CRCs dont match.

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                      • garym
                        dBpoweramp Guru

                        • Nov 2007
                        • 5878

                        #12
                        Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

                        Originally posted by eviL
                        Also, CRCs dont match.
                        perhaps this.
                        So what does it mean if you get an accuraterip of a track of 2 then a few tracks later get an accuraterip of 60 on the same disc ?

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                        • Spoon
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 44481

                          #13
                          Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

                          There are 2 offsets a drive offset and pressing offset, if a drive is ripped with the 'correct' offset, it will appear as pressing offset 0 for non-pressing discs.
                          Spoon
                          www.dbpoweramp.com

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                          • eviL

                            • Apr 2013
                            • 12

                            #14
                            Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

                            Do I lose any quality if I split a single-flac album into multiple tracks(files)? I have John Lennon's "Imagine" in a single FLAC file and someone told me to use CUETools->Encode->Tracks->FLAC->libFLAC->8->Go.. in order to do that. So, do I lose quality? It's still lossless after that right?

                            P.S. Btw, I'm having a 00. HTOA track/file now which is placed before Track 01. Is that bad or something?

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                            • garym
                              dBpoweramp Guru

                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5878

                              #15
                              Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

                              Originally posted by eviL
                              Do I lose any quality if I split a single-flac album into multiple tracks(files)? I have John Lennon's "Imagine" in a single FLAC file and someone told me to use CUETools->Encode->Tracks->FLAC->libFLAC->8->Go.. in order to do that. So, do I lose quality? It's still lossless after that right?

                              P.S. Btw, I'm having a 00. HTOA track/file now which is placed before Track 01. Is that bad or something?
                              no, one can spit a single flac with cue file into multiple tracks with no loss. still lossless. The one time I used cuetools, it also created a 00. HTOA track (which was not anything that played). Not sure why it did that, but didn't cause issues with other tracks created. Also, foobar2000 can convert a single flac/cue into separate flac tracks tool

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