Question to Spoon

[Porcus]

Re: Question to Spoon

Your drive configuration looks all fine.

Your log told the title and version of the release, and Sir Paul never released Ram in mono on CD until this week, that's why.

Don't worry so much. Your reaction is a bit more paranoid than most. Even than myself.

Errors might show up with statuses 'Insecure' or 'Error'. Your drive reports where the 'C2' error correction level yields a warning, and dBpoweramp utilizes that information to decide what parts to re-read. If individual frames have to be re-read, but dBpoweramp thinks the result is most probably good, then the status will be 'Secure (Warning)'. And if all tracks were Accurate or Secure except one, then that could be an indication of an error, but you shouldn't worry too much if all tracks are Accurate (1) and yours isn't -- it could very well be that the previous submission is wrong.


Furthermore, I advise against the 'interpolate' functionality. The reason is that if there is a real error in there, then the drive will interpolate to keep it as inaudible as possible; most drives do that better than dBpoweramp does (I think the drive can smooth out 'smaller parts' than dBpoweramp has to).


It might be that a brand new CD ends up erroneous. That might be a manufactoring defect (and if you demand a replacement from the store, it might very well be that you get an identical one with the same errors). Indeed, there are errors on every CD, but the checksum-based corrections in the CD format corrects most of them. Don't panic. Listen to the particular track, you will probably not be able to tell the difference.


And rest assured, with a decent drive, the result will be no worse than with a CD player. The reason? The CD player cannot re-read. dBpoweramp can read again and again and eliminate errors.

[Gbeer7]

Re: Question to Spoon

Thank you kindly again, Porus. You seem very knowledgeable about music !

What does 'interpolate' mean ?

Mine just got the green tick with secure and a red cross against accuraterip. Think all four cd's had a green tick with secure. Stressing about that now !

So if there was an error it would be like a CD, skip ?

So no need to replace, just chill out and enjoy ? Feel sick with stress just want it to be ok as it cost £65 :(

You are good to take the time for me.

[Porcus]

Re: Question to Spoon

'interpolate' means to smooth out. If three consecutive samples read (numbers made up on the spot) 224, [unreadable], 256, then the unreadable will be replaced by 240 (the average). Because that is most probably better than a zero (which will sound like a skip).

As said, the box is new. It won't be 'Accurate'. The red crosses are there because AccurateRip had a CD with the same track lengths but different content -- I would guess that is a previous version of Ram. This is all normal.

Errors can at worst be like a CD skip (well at very worst dBpoweramp can refuse to read at all), but even less severe issues can be reported as 'Error'.

Yeah, chill out and enjoy the music. That's what this is for

[Gbeer7]

Re: Question to Spoon

So playback won't be that bad if an error. I thought the red-cross with Acurraterip meant it was not in the database and the green tick for secure was good ?
oh god, could there be a problem with mine ? Even get them on Ram Mono, which has never been released before.

Have i got interpolate on ? also, not worth re-ripping again ?

Driving myself insane ! Take it you don't get as worked up about music as me ? Do you listen to the music or for flaws ? Would you lose any sleep over a flaw ? I would !! :(

[Porcus]

Re: Question to Spoon

I was maybe a bit ambiguous as to whether 'box' was the 5-disc box or the dialogue box in the software.

I thought the red-cross with Acurraterip meant it was not in the database and the green tick for secure was good ?

Yes. It all looks fine. Now just relax and enjoy the music

[Gbeer7]

Re: Question to Spoon

I was maybe a bit ambiguous as to whether 'box' was the 5-disc box or the dialogue box in )

sorry, what does that mean ?
I'm confused, is the cd not in the accurate rip database or is it comparing to another pressing ? Is it comparing to another new boxset ? So I'm all good and no need t exchange ?

Oh do I have interpolate on ?

Thank you porcus. Do you get as uptight as this

[Porcus]

Re: Question to Spoon

If that was confusing, forget it.

AccurateRip identifies the CD by table-of-contents (i.e. track lengths).
That is, a CD and its tracks, will be compared to those with the same TOC, and only them.

Your CD is checked against those with the same TOC. Suppose there is at least one such.
- if there is a one matching the content (by checksum), then 'Accurate'.
- otherwise, it will report those red crosses.

Now if that/those CDs are genuinely different -- different music, or one is a remaster/remix -- then that is just to be expected. It does not in any way mean that your rip is wrong, merely that it doesn't match the only one(s) that were relevant to compare with (namely those with the same TOC). Obviously this is the case here -- all boxes are red, and besides the CD is too new to be in the database. A different CD with the same TOC is there, but that does of course not mean that your rip is wrong.

You are all as safe as can be with a freshly released CD. And, in case you consider re-ripping after the summer (hoping to get an AR-verified rip): don't bother -- Spoon is working on a tool that will retro-check your existing rips. (A couple of such already exist though, but they will often give you false negatives, and ... to be frank, that will probably upset you too much, for no good cause. So, stay away from those )


(The interpolation is nothing you have to do yourself.)

[Gbeer7]

Re: Question to Spoon

Thank you Porcus again. Your replies have been very detailed, so thanks for taking the time. I will leave you be. Sorry for keeping on. I guess i should take it as ok, chill out and enjoy it ? You've been very kind considering i've kept on and worried. Don't mean to.