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  • eboyer93
    dBpoweramp Enthusiast
    • Apr 2008
    • 69

    Question about Accurate Rip please read!

    I ripped the album Prince by Prince and all the files were considered accurate with a confidence of 2 except for track 8/9 which it said that that it was not present in the accuraterip database. What would cause this. I am using EAC.

    Here is what the log looks like:



    Code:
    Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 5 from 4. May 2009
    
    EAC extraction logfile from 10. August 2009, 0:49
    
    Prince / Prince
    
    Used drive  : ATAPI   DVD A  DH20A4P   Adapter: 0  ID: 0
    
    Read mode               : Secure
    Utilize accurate stream : Yes
    Defeat audio cache      : Yes
    Make use of C2 pointers : No
    
    Read offset correction                      : 6
    Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out          : No
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks   : No
    Null samples used in CRC calculations       : Yes
    Used interface                              : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
    Gap handling                                : Not detected, thus appended to previous track
    
    Used output format              : User Defined Encoder
    Selected bitrate                : 128 kBit/s
    Quality                         : High
    Add ID3 tag                     : No
    Command line compressor         : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe
    Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" -5 %s
    
    
    TOC of the extracted CD
    
         Track |   Start  |  Length  | Start sector | End sector 
        ---------------------------------------------------------
            1  |  0:00.32 |  5:49.73 |        32    |    26279   
            2  |  5:50.30 |  3:49.30 |     26280    |    43484   
            3  |  9:39.60 |  4:18.47 |     43485    |    62881   
            4  | 13:58.32 |  5:23.50 |     62882    |    87156   
            5  | 19:22.07 |  4:00.18 |     87157    |   105174   
            6  | 23:22.25 |  4:22.72 |    105175    |   124896   
            7  | 27:45.22 |  4:15.38 |    124897    |   144059   
            8  | 32:00.60 |  3:24.17 |    144060    |   159376   
            9  | 35:25.02 |  5:27.48 |    159377    |   183949   
    
    
    Track  1
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\01 I Wanna Be Your Lover.wav
    
         Peak level 73.7 %
         Track quality 99.9 %
         Test CRC 3B1ABC45
         Copy CRC 3B1ABC45
         Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [6A5C647D]
         Copy OK
    
    Track  2
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\02 Why You Wanna Treat Me So Bad .wav
    
         Peak level 67.1 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 7DB7BB0A
         Copy CRC 7DB7BB0A
         Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [04C3B4F2]
         Copy OK
    
    Track  3
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\03 Sexy Dancer.wav
    
         Peak level 73.7 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 5A44252E
         Copy CRC 5A44252E
         Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [5E12B08E]
         Copy OK
    
    Track  4
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\04 When We're Dancing Close And Slow.wav
    
         Peak level 62.4 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 5F2B4A95
         Copy CRC 5F2B4A95
         Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [61B5ED0B]
         Copy OK
    
    Track  5
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\05 With You.wav
    
         Peak level 62.9 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC BCC70F41
         Copy CRC BCC70F41
         Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [CC3845F0]
         Copy OK
    
    Track  6
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\06 Bambi.wav
    
         Peak level 70.9 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC DC9873CD
         Copy CRC DC9873CD
         Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [D1FEEEFC]
         Copy OK
    
    Track  7
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\07 Still Waiting.wav
    
         Peak level 66.3 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 247EDB5E
         Copy CRC 247EDB5E
         Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [844825E7]
         Copy OK
    
    Track  8
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\08 I Feel For You.wav
    
         Peak level 70.7 %
         Track quality 99.9 %
         Test CRC E402E2BA
         Copy CRC E402E2BA
         Track not present in AccurateRip database
         Copy OK
    
    Track  9
    
         Filename F:\Music\Ripped Lossless Music\Prince\Prince\09 It's Gonna Be Lonely.wav
    
         Peak level 73.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 0543974D
         Copy CRC 0543974D
         Accurately ripped (confidence 2)  [FD3514D0]
         Copy OK
    
    
     8 track(s) accurately ripped
     1 track(s) not present in the AccurateRip database
    
    Some tracks could not be verified as accurate
    
    No errors occurred
    
    End of status report
  • Spoon
    Administrator
    • Apr 2002
    • 44024

    #2
    Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

    Person A Rips CD - has a scratch on Track 8 submits CRC1
    Person B Rips CD - has no scratch on Track 8 submits CRC2

    As CRC1 and CRC2 do not match, neither are in the database until someone else submits a matching CRC. Hence why when the confidence is 2, there can be missing tracks.
    Spoon
    www.dbpoweramp.com

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    • eboyer93
      dBpoweramp Enthusiast
      • Apr 2008
      • 69

      #3
      Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

      Ok Thanks

      So when I submit my results and it matchs one of them, it will be put into the database?
      Last edited by eboyer93; August 11, 2009, 05:44 PM.

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 44024

        #4
        Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

        Yes, but the database is only updated once a month.
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • eboyer93
          dBpoweramp Enthusiast
          • Apr 2008
          • 69

          #5
          Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

          Is the database updated at the beginning of the month?

          Comment

          • Spoon
            Administrator
            • Apr 2002
            • 44024

            #6
            Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

            No, when ever it happens (it is manual).
            Spoon
            www.dbpoweramp.com

            Comment

            • eboyer93
              dBpoweramp Enthusiast
              • Apr 2008
              • 69

              #7
              Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

              ok:smile:

              Comment

              • sidjames
                • Apr 2010
                • 4

                #8
                Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

                i wonder if anyone could give an insight into whats going on with this one. same as the example above, only the cd has a confidence rating of 10 on all tracks except for one. i have ripped this track 6 times using test and copy and have got the same crc 12 times.

                Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008

                EAC extraction logfile from 25. April 2010, 21:00

                PJ Harvey / Dry

                Used drive : TSSTcorpDVD+-RW TS-L632H Adapter: 2 ID: 0

                Read mode : Secure
                Utilize accurate stream : Yes
                Defeat audio cache : Yes
                Make use of C2 pointers : No

                Read offset correction : 6
                Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
                Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
                Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
                Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
                Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
                Gap handling : Appended to previous track

                Used output format : User Defined Encoder
                Selected bitrate : 1024 kBit/s
                Quality : High
                Add ID3 tag : No
                Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\EAC\REACT.exe
                Additional command line options : lame %o %s %d "%a" "%g" "%t" "%n" "%x" "%y" "%m" "%e" "%f" "%b" %r


                TOC of the extracted CD

                Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
                ---------------------------------------------------------
                1 | 0:00.00 | 3:57.00 | 0 | 17774
                2 | 3:57.00 | 2:36.67 | 17775 | 29541
                3 | 6:33.67 | 3:18.18 | 29542 | 44409
                4 | 9:52.10 | 3:15.55 | 44410 | 59089
                5 | 13:07.65 | 5:03.02 | 59090 | 81816
                6 | 18:10.67 | 3:12.08 | 81817 | 96224
                7 | 21:23.00 | 3:45.50 | 96225 | 113149
                8 | 25:08.50 | 2:35.55 | 113150 | 124829
                9 | 27:44.30 | 4:08.45 | 124830 | 143474
                10 | 31:53.00 | 3:52.42 | 143475 | 160916
                11 | 35:45.42 | 4:32.33 | 160917 | 181349


                Track 1

                Filename C:\01 Oh My Lover.wav

                Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00

                Peak level 90.9 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC 72CA4D4A
                Copy CRC 72CA4D4A
                Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [98AB86BD]
                Copy OK

                Track 2

                Filename C:\02 O Stella.wav

                Peak level 80.2 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC 1768525B
                Copy CRC 1768525B
                Track not present in AccurateRip database
                Copy OK

                Track 3

                Filename C:\03 Dress.wav

                Peak level 79.2 %
                Track quality 99.9 %
                Test CRC BA29BCC9
                Copy CRC BA29BCC9
                Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [3B00F38F]
                Copy OK

                Track 4

                Filename C:\04 Victory.wav

                Pre-gap length 0:00:02.00

                Peak level 99.1 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC C50CC485
                Copy CRC C50CC485
                Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [E90D8718]
                Copy OK

                Track 5

                Filename C:\05 Happy and Bleeding.wav

                Peak level 100.0 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC 4612FDB1
                Copy CRC 4612FDB1
                Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [933D46BD]
                Copy OK

                Track 6

                Filename C:\06 Sheela-Na-Gig.wav

                Pre-gap length 0:00:13.00

                Peak level 97.9 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC A74C73E0
                Copy CRC A74C73E0
                Accurately ripped (confidence 9) [AAA448E8]
                Copy OK

                Track 7

                Filename C:\07 Hair.wav

                Pre-gap length 0:00:01.00

                Peak level 96.9 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC 9294EABF
                Copy CRC 9294EABF
                Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [AC05D6E1]
                Copy OK

                Track 8

                Filename C:\08 Joe.wav

                Peak level 100.0 %
                Track quality 99.9 %
                Test CRC 67730269
                Copy CRC 67730269
                Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [7F7BDCF9]
                Copy OK

                Track 9

                Filename C:\09 Plants and Rags.wav

                Pre-gap length 0:00:03.00

                Peak level 93.5 %
                Track quality 99.9 %
                Test CRC B1DA458B
                Copy CRC B1DA458B
                Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [9BA7754C]
                Copy OK

                Track 10

                Filename C:\10 Fountain.wav

                Pre-gap length 0:00:01.00

                Peak level 97.7 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC 87617B60
                Copy CRC 87617B60
                Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [1743CB40]
                Copy OK

                Track 11

                Filename C:\11 Water.wav

                Pre-gap length 0:00:01.00

                Peak level 100.0 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC DDAAE8DD
                Copy CRC DDAAE8DD
                Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [F3FCB45D]
                Copy OK


                0 track(s) accurately ripped
                1 track(s) not present in the AccurateRip database

                Some tracks could not be verified as accurate

                No errors occurred

                End of status report

                ------------------------------------------------------------

                Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008

                EAC extraction logfile from 25. April 2010, 21:05

                PJ Harvey / Dry

                Used drive : TSSTcorpDVD+-RW TS-L632H Adapter: 2 ID: 0

                Read mode : Secure
                Utilize accurate stream : Yes
                Defeat audio cache : Yes
                Make use of C2 pointers : No

                Read offset correction : 6
                Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
                Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
                Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
                Null samples used in CRC calculations : Yes
                Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000
                Gap handling : Appended to previous track

                Used output format : User Defined Encoder
                Selected bitrate : 1024 kBit/s
                Quality : High
                Add ID3 tag : No
                Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\EAC\REACT.exe
                Additional command line options : lame %o %s %d "%a" "%g" "%t" "%n" "%x" "%y" "%m" "%e" "%f" "%b" %r


                TOC of the extracted CD

                Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector
                ---------------------------------------------------------
                1 | 0:00.00 | 3:57.00 | 0 | 17774
                2 | 3:57.00 | 2:36.67 | 17775 | 29541
                3 | 6:33.67 | 3:18.18 | 29542 | 44409
                4 | 9:52.10 | 3:15.55 | 44410 | 59089
                5 | 13:07.65 | 5:03.02 | 59090 | 81816
                6 | 18:10.67 | 3:12.08 | 81817 | 96224
                7 | 21:23.00 | 3:45.50 | 96225 | 113149
                8 | 25:08.50 | 2:35.55 | 113150 | 124829
                9 | 27:44.30 | 4:08.45 | 124830 | 143474
                10 | 31:53.00 | 3:52.42 | 143475 | 160916
                11 | 35:45.42 | 4:32.33 | 160917 | 181349


                Track 2

                Filename C:\02 O Stella.wav

                Peak level 80.2 %
                Track quality 100.0 %
                Test CRC 1768525B
                Copy CRC 1768525B
                Track not present in AccurateRip database
                Copy OK


                None of the tracks are present in the AccurateRip database

                No errors occurred

                End of status report

                - i am also not the first person to submit these values... cuetools reveals that this track IS in the database. (none of these rips are mine, i only got the cd yesterday but it is from a library so i guess someone else may have ripped this very disc and submitted it) all a bit confusing.:D my best guess is some sort of manufacturing glitch but if anyone else has any ideas...

                [Verification date: 26/04/2010 17:15:49]
                [Disc ID: 00100fa5-008bf1fb-9f09720b]
                CUETools DB: disk not present in database.
                Track [ CRC ] Status
                01 [98ab86bd] (10/72) Accurately ripped
                02 [34ff5b70] (03/23) Accurately ripped
                03 [3b00f38f] (10/73) Accurately ripped
                04 [e90d8718] (10/73) Accurately ripped
                05 [933d46bd] (09/72) Accurately ripped
                06 [aaa448e8] (09/72) Accurately ripped
                07 [ac05d6e1] (10/73) Accurately ripped
                08 [7f7bdcf9] (10/73) Accurately ripped
                09 [9ba7754c] (10/73) Accurately ripped
                10 [1743cb40] (10/72) Accurately ripped
                11 [f3fcb45d] (10/70) Accurately ripped
                Offsetted by -2242:
                01 [4c4ab2fa] (06/72) Accurately ripped
                02 [83dbb7c7] (03/23) Accurately ripped
                03 [4f798bb7] (06/73) Accurately ripped
                04 [4170c81a] (06/73) Accurately ripped
                05 [a7e550c5] (06/72) Accurately ripped
                06 [36784163] (06/72) Accurately ripped
                07 [9dbc1f8b] (06/73) Accurately ripped
                08 [624c7344] (06/73) Accurately ripped
                09 [068d08df] (06/73) Accurately ripped
                10 [7d32bc47] (06/72) Accurately ripped
                11 [d03923be] (06/70) Accurately ripped

                .....

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                • Spoon
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 44024

                  #9
                  Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

                  Very odd, CueTools does say it is there EAC does not, as AR is a positive verification system that track does appear to be there, but looking at the cue tools result (of conf 3 not 10) it does look like drives have issues with that track.
                  Spoon
                  www.dbpoweramp.com

                  Comment

                  • sidjames
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 4

                    #10
                    Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

                    yes, my thoughts entirely. id have put it down to a problem with this particular disc but the fact that there are matches for other offsets as well seems a bit strange.

                    just out of interest. accuraterip check using foobar... (exactly the same)

                    Track Status
                    01 Accurately ripped, confidence: 10.
                    02 Accurately ripped, confidence: 3.
                    03 Accurately ripped, confidence: 10.
                    04 Accurately ripped, confidence: 10.
                    05 Accurately ripped, confidence: 9.
                    06 Accurately ripped, confidence: 9.
                    07 Accurately ripped, confidence: 10.
                    08 Accurately ripped, confidence: 10.
                    09 Accurately ripped, confidence: 10.
                    10 Accurately ripped, confidence: 10.
                    11 Accurately ripped, confidence: 10.
                    Last edited by sidjames; April 27, 2010, 01:46 PM.

                    Comment

                    • EliC
                      dBpoweramp Guru
                      • May 2004
                      • 1175

                      #11
                      Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

                      Can you try ripping with dBpoweramp? I would be very interested to see what the results are. Thanks.

                      Comment

                      • sidjames
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 4

                        #12
                        Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

                        Album Artist : P.J. Harvey
                        Album : Dry
                        Disc : 1/1


                        Track : 1
                        Title : Oh My Lover
                        Length : 3:57
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [98AB86BD]
                        CRC : 72CA4D4A
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 2
                        Title : O Stella
                        Length : 2:36
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 3) [34FF5B70]
                        CRC : 1768525B
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 3
                        Title : Dress
                        Length : 3:18
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [3B00F38F]
                        CRC : BA29BCC9
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 4
                        Title : Victory
                        Length : 3:15
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [E90D8718]
                        CRC : C50CC485
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 5
                        Title : Happy and Bleeding
                        Length : 5:03
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 9) [933D46BD]
                        CRC : 4612FDB1
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 6
                        Title : Sheela-Na-Gig
                        Length : 3:12
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 9) [AAA448E8]
                        CRC : A74C73E0
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 7
                        Title : Hair
                        Length : 3:45
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [AC05D6E1]
                        CRC : 9294EABF
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 8
                        Title : Joe
                        Length : 2:35
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [7F7BDCF9]
                        CRC : 67730269
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 9
                        Title : Plants and Rags
                        Length : 4:08
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [9BA7754C]
                        CRC : B1DA458B
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 10
                        Title : Fountain
                        Length : 3:52
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [1743CB40]
                        CRC : 87617B60
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative


                        Track : 11
                        Title : Water
                        Length : 4:32
                        Rip Status : AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [F3FCB45D]
                        CRC : DDAAE8DD
                        Rating : 0
                        Genre : Alternative

                        Comment

                        • EliC
                          dBpoweramp Guru
                          • May 2004
                          • 1175

                          #13
                          Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

                          Is that a dBpoweramp rip? It looks like the rip is results are the same for CRC but dB is showing AR results while EAC is not?

                          Comment

                          • sidjames
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 4

                            #14
                            Re: Question about Accurate Rip please read!

                            it is. im not familiar with using dbpoweramp for ripping cds, but ive configured it to rip securely with the correct offset for my drive. have no idea how to make it output a log file or similar - that is what i get when i (right) click on "copy track names to clipboard" in the main window with all tracks selected.

                            the db results are consistent with whats in the database, its eac that seems a bit strange. im using an older beta (4). ill try 5 and see if i get the same results.

                            Comment

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