Can I Please Have A Simple Explaination?

[TheAlmighty]

Hello dBpoweramp Forums,

Just recently I posted for some help in regards to why I was receiving "errors" whilst ripping a healthy CD. Basically as an end result it could've been a number of possible reasons, though it seemed more likely it was a badly pressed CD.

I did a few tests and this is what I came up with.

dBpoweramp Release 13.2 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, 17 July 2009 12:57 AM

Drive & Settings
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Ripping with drive 'E: [ASUS - DRW-2014L1T ]', Drive offset: 6, Overread Lead-in/out: No
AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 1024 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 1, Max Passes: 2, Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34

Encoder: Apple Lossless -v

Extraction Log
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Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 10733 (2:23) in 0:22. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\01 Silent Scream.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: EDA63F90 AccurateRip CRC: 3EFE7B86 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-1]

Track 2: Ripped LBA 10733 to 25652 (3:18) in 0:18. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\02 Unknown Pain.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 98F3D6DF AccurateRip CRC: 70C01612 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-2]

Track 3: Ripped LBA 25652 to 44347 (4:09) in 0:21. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\03 Time Will Take.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: CC643C78 AccurateRip CRC: F91E1460 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-3]

Track 4: Ripped LBA 44347 to 54654 (2:17) in 0:11. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\04 Grace.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 7A3A6052 AccurateRip CRC: 6570E26C [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-4]

Track 5: Ripped LBA 54654 to 77670 (5:06) in 2:55. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\05 Before I Die.m4a
Insecure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 2, Re-Rip 6881 Frames]
CRC32: 00000000 AccurateRip CRC: 00000000 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-5]
** Aborted: Have to ReRip 6881 Frames, Re-Rip Limit Set to 100 Frames

Track 6: Ripped LBA 77670 to 90219 (2:47) in 0:13. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\06 Ashes To Ashes And Dust To Dust.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: D105CE1B AccurateRip CRC: 59F8D9CD [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-6]

Track 7: Ripped LBA 90219 to 114966 (5:29) in 0:22. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\07 Meaning Of Life.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 05B66188 AccurateRip CRC: E001585B [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-7]

Track 8: Ripped LBA 114966 to 124241 (2:03) in 0:07. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\08 Desire Pearing The Water Of Truth.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 577D2D27 AccurateRip CRC: 9D9C4A3F [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-8]

Track 9: Ripped LBA 124241 to 150538 (5:50) in 0:21. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\09 Where Is My God.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 55BCD594 AccurateRip CRC: 4A50A1D3 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-9]

Track 10: Ripped LBA 150538 to 170655 (4:28) in 0:15. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\10 Red So Deep....m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 77B7BB8D AccurateRip CRC: 1DF4790F [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-10]

Track 11: Ripped LBA 170655 to 186412 (3:30) in 0:11. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\11 Fade.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 86B271A5 AccurateRip CRC: B60E9F0F [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-11]

Track 12: Ripped LBA 186412 to 203051 (3:41) in 0:12. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\12 Forever Sleep.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 4A430AC2 AccurateRip CRC: CB02EB09 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-12]

Track 13: Ripped LBA 203051 to 223108 (4:27) in 0:14. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\13 Hatred Falling To Angel's Wings.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 37AD804D AccurateRip CRC: AAD649C9 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-13]

Track 14: Ripped LBA 223108 to 242455 (4:17) in 0:13. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\14 Home.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 64EC8250 AccurateRip CRC: 286155EE [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-14]

Track 15: Ripped LBA 242455 to 275960 (7:26) in 0:21. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\15 Words.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 1327556A AccurateRip CRC: 4660781E [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-15]

Track 16: Ripped LBA 275960 to 288640 (2:49) in 0:07. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\16 Devotion.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: E4CD38D0 AccurateRip CRC: E44E0B10 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-16]

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16 Tracks Ripped: 15 Secure, 1 Inaccurate

I had "Mark Track as Error if Insecure" deselected. So basically I got an insecure file instead. When I played back this audio file, it was very jumpy and noticeably a bad rip. Thus ripping this CD with EAC aswell, TRACK 5 did take a long time to rip, but the end result sounded to me no different then on the CD which was perfect.

Now after mucking around with the settings a bit I finally got this result.

dBpoweramp Release 13.2 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, 17 July 2009 1:20 AM

Drive & Settings
----------------

Ripping with drive 'E: [ASUS - DRW-2014L1T ]', Drive offset: 6, Overread Lead-in/out: No
AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 1024 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 1, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34

Encoder: Apple Lossless -v

Extraction Log
--------------

Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 10733 (2:23) in 0:20. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\01 Silent Scream.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: EDA63F90 AccurateRip CRC: 3EFE7B86 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-1]

Track 2: Ripped LBA 10733 to 25652 (3:18) in 0:18. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\02 Unknown Pain.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 98F3D6DF AccurateRip CRC: 70C01612 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-2]

Track 3: Ripped LBA 25652 to 44347 (4:09) in 0:21. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\03 Time Will Take.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: CC643C78 AccurateRip CRC: F91E1460 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-3]

Track 4: Ripped LBA 44347 to 54654 (2:17) in 0:10. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\04 Grace.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 7A3A6052 AccurateRip CRC: 6570E26C [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-4]

Track 5: Ripped LBA 54654 to 77670 (5:06) in 0:22. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\05 Before I Die.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: F31D6D10 AccurateRip CRC: 1D344972 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-5]

Track 6: Ripped LBA 77670 to 90219 (2:47) in 0:11. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\06 Ashes To Ashes And Dust To Dust.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: D105CE1B AccurateRip CRC: 59F8D9CD [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-6]

Track 7: Ripped LBA 90219 to 114966 (5:29) in 0:22. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\07 Meaning Of Life.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 05B66188 AccurateRip CRC: E001585B [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-7]

Track 8: Ripped LBA 114966 to 124241 (2:03) in 0:07. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\08 Desire Pearing The Water Of Truth.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 577D2D27 AccurateRip CRC: 9D9C4A3F [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-8]

Track 9: Ripped LBA 124241 to 150538 (5:50) in 0:21. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\09 Where Is My God.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 55BCD594 AccurateRip CRC: 4A50A1D3 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-9]

Track 10: Ripped LBA 150538 to 170655 (4:28) in 0:18. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\10 Red So Deep....m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 77B7BB8D AccurateRip CRC: 1DF4790F [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-10]

Track 11: Ripped LBA 170655 to 186412 (3:30) in 0:11. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\11 Fade.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 86B271A5 AccurateRip CRC: B60E9F0F [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-11]

Track 12: Ripped LBA 186412 to 203051 (3:41) in 0:13. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\12 Forever Sleep.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 4A430AC2 AccurateRip CRC: CB02EB09 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-12]

Track 13: Ripped LBA 203051 to 223108 (4:27) in 0:14. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\13 Hatred Falling To Angel's Wings.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 37AD804D AccurateRip CRC: AAD649C9 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-13]

Track 14: Ripped LBA 223108 to 242455 (4:17) in 0:13. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\14 Home.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 64EC8250 AccurateRip CRC: 286155EE [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-14]

Track 15: Ripped LBA 242455 to 275960 (7:26) in 0:21. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\15 Words.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 1327556A AccurateRip CRC: 4660781E [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-15]

Track 16: Ripped LBA 275960 to 288640 (2:49) in 0:08. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\16 Devotion.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: E4CD38D0 AccurateRip CRC: E44E0B10 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-16]

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16 Tracks Ripped Securely

All I changed was the "Maximum Ultra Passes to 6" and "When have to Re-Rip to 200 Frames".

I will appologies for such a long post just to ask my question, but my question is why did only changing these settings allow me to get a secure rip, with "possible" errors still, that plays absolutely perfect. No audiable defects at all.

Thanks, TheAlmighty

[bhoar]

Re: Can I Please Have A Simple Explaination?

It's possible your drive lost Accuratestream (unrelated to Accuraterip) due to a firmware bug. This means between two passes the audio data was shifted some number of samples for a large part of the track.

How repeatable is this problem?

-brendan

[TheAlmighty]

Re: Can I Please Have A Simple Explaination?

I've re-ripped the same CD again with the exact same settings as the above results, though this one failed.

dBpoweramp Release 13.2 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, 17 July 2009 11:52 AM

Drive & Settings
----------------

Ripping with drive 'E: [ASUS - DRW-2014L1T ]', Drive offset: 6, Overread Lead-in/out: No
AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 1024 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No
Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max
Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 1, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 1
Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34

Encoder: Apple Lossless -v

Extraction Log
--------------

Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 10733 (2:23) in 0:19. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\01 Silent Scream.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: EDA63F90 AccurateRip CRC: 3EFE7B86 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-1]

Track 2: Ripped LBA 10733 to 25652 (3:18) in 0:18. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\02 Unknown Pain.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 98F3D6DF AccurateRip CRC: 70C01612 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-2]

Track 3: Ripped LBA 25652 to 44347 (4:09) in 0:21. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\03 Time Will Take.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: CC643C78 AccurateRip CRC: F91E1460 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-3]

Track 4: Ripped LBA 44347 to 54654 (2:17) in 0:11. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\04 Grace.m4a
Secure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 1]
CRC32: 7A3A6052 AccurateRip CRC: 6570E26C [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-4]

Track 5: Ripped LBA 54654 to 77670 (5:06) in 3:25. Filename: F:\Lucky\Lucky's Music\Archived Music\HeavensDust\Higher Than Heaven, Louder Than God\05 Before I Die.m4a
Insecure [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 6, Re-Rip 2593 Frames]
CRC32: 00000000 AccurateRip CRC: 00000000 [DiscID: 016-0022d725-01aba5bc-df0f0810-5]
** Aborted: Have to ReRip 2593 Frames, Re-Rip Limit Set to 200 Frames

I suppose to answer the question. Quite frequently. I thought I read somewhere about 13.3Beta. Do that help fix this issue or is this not software related?

[Spoon]

Re: Can I Please Have A Simple Explaination?

It is drive related.