Best DAE drive ?

[Ekstasis]

So once for all, what cd drive should I buy, for the best digital audio extraction.
It needs to be reliable, and have good error correction, and it also need to be fast. It also need to be IDE. Heard good about samsung...

[Porcus]

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So once for all, what cd drive should I buy, for the best digital audio extraction.
It needs to be reliable, and have good error correction, and it also need to be fast. It also need to be IDE. Heard good about samsung...

Read http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=16442 and http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=15987 . (You will still be frustrated.)

[Ekstasis]

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Read http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=16442 and http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=15987 . (You will still be frustrated.)

Thanks.

I have been reading the two threads above, and I did learn absolutely nothing new in these threads, it is just the same vague speculations and "personal" expierences which do not stand on any substancial ground. It seems, the only drives that people are talking about is the two the Spoon have tested (like these two would be the only drives in the world ?). I happen to own both px-708a and 230a. 708a did work good for about a year, the 230a works good, but it has big problems to rip some cds, especially for underground music which might be bad pressings and so on, however, this is such an ordinary problem for the 230a that I have gone tired of it, I want a cd drive that can rip ALL cds, all other drives I have had, do rip all cds. And please note, I do not rip scracthy cds, often totally new/unplayed cds.

My next try would be to try the Samsung SH-203B, but of course this drive is a SATA drive, and of course my motherboard does not have SATA. I guess I could use it through my controller card, but that would most likely not been an optimal/reliable solution, since I use two hard drives on the same Controller Card.

My primary drive I use at the moment is Lite-ON SHM-165H6S, which has proven to be a "good" drive so far, it is kind of fast, it does not cache...However, I have not find enough sources and information that does confirm the reliability of this drive...

It really seem to be an hopeless case to find or know what drive to buy, the truth is...their is no scientific tests at all when it comes to DAE.

And finally, I have give up to find the Pioneer DVR-A15J, which I had high hopes for, this drive is only released in Japan, and to my surprise it seems totally impossible to import this drive!
I see it in a lot of Japanese stores, but no one is allowed to ship outside of Japan, I could not imagine it would be so hard...

[Porcus]

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And finally, I have give up to find the Pioneer DVR-A15J, which I had high hopes for, this drive is only released in Japan, and to my surprise it seems totally impossible to import this drive!

They say it doesn't report C2 errors ...

[Ekstasis]

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They say it doesn't report C2 errors ...

And what source do you have for that ?
I have been able to find very little about that drive in general..

[Porcus]

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And what source do you have for that ?

... worst possible: a google search I cannot re-retrieve. Hope I was wrong. But according to daefeatures.co.uk, most Pioneers don't -- and this is essentially a 115, isn't it?

... hm ... must be something wrong here, as the SATA-version 215 seems to do. And the crossflashers over at http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=43868 might help? Is the PureRead in the firmware?

(The difference to the "D" version is that this is only "dual" format and doesn't write DVD-RAM, am I right? Don't need that ...)

[Ekstasis]

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... worst possible: a google search I cannot re-retrieve. Hope I was wrong. But according to daefeatures.co.uk, most Pioneers don't -- and this is essentially a 115, isn't it?

... hm ... must be something wrong here, as the SATA-version 215 seems to do. And the crossflashers over at http://forum.rpc1.org/viewtopic.php?t=43868 might help? Is the PureRead in the firmware?

(The difference to the "D" version is that this is only "dual" format and doesn't write DVD-RAM, am I right? Don't need that ...)

Yeah, what you tell me about the A15J is news to me...

From what I know the non-japanese versions cannot be comparable with the Japanese models, since the hardware are different. And yes I know the drive has been cross-flashed, but since the hardware does differ, some functions does not work such as PURE READ etc..

What I have seen tests results from so far is the non-Japanese versions, and they did indeed not perform very good from what I have seen...but again..this will probably differ from test to test depending on the person who test it.

[Porcus]

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From what I know the non-japanese versions cannot be comparable with the Japanese models, since the hardware are different. And yes I know the drive has been cross-flashed, but since the hardware does differ, some functions does not work such as PURE READ etc..

Rumour has it it it is hardware. Rumour has it it is firmware, but only works with the accompanying ripping tools. *sigh*

[Ekstasis]

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Rumour has it it it is hardware. Rumour has it it is firmware, but only works with the accompanying ripping tools. *sigh*

Yeah a lot of rumors I guess...would be great if some one actually did KNOW. Also when is the drive going to be released in the Australian market ???

[Porcus]

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Would be great if someone took the effort to produce something working. Hell, they sell overpriced CD-spinners with chromium plated knobs to audiophiles just a bit nuttier than myself, yet they cannot imagine a market for a CD-ROM-drive which grabs the g'damned bit stream once and for all.

[Ekstasis]

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Would be great if someone took the effort to produce something working. Hell, they sell overpriced CD-spinners with chromium plated knobs to audiophiles just a bit nuttier than myself, yet they cannot imagine a market for a CD-ROM-drive which grabs the g'damned bit stream once and for all.

Or even better a new cd standard, which would eliminate all these problems...

[bhoar]

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Or even better a new cd standard, which would eliminate all these problems...

...only if we also had a time machine...

-brendan

[Ekstasis]

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...only if we also had a time machine...

-brendan

In theory it could already today be possible with the current cd standard, if the labels did include meta data information which could be used in the extraction process... but why would the labels want to do that ???
They do not want us to take any copies at all. If they could decide it would be impossible to rip a cd...

[bhoar]

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In theory it could already today be possible with the current cd standard, if the labels did include meta data information which could be used in the extraction process... but why would the labels want to do that ???
They do not want us to take any copies at all. If they could decide it would be impossible to rip a cd...

The more serious point I was alluding to is that a new CD standard would do nothing to rectify the situation of ripping existing CDs.

-brendan

[Porcus]

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Ask the record indu$try for a "new and improved" standard and they will be happy to offer you 96 kbits/sec quality, non-transferrable to your new hardware, and playable on BMG-rootkit-infected Windows only, with a license that dictates what kind of beer you must buy at live gigs.