Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

[Gidders]

When I make changes to my library eg when I get a hi res version of an album & delete the standard/mp3 res version, Asset recognises the new hi res album immediately, but doesn't remove the deleted album automatically

Is there something I need to set / unset to make this happen?

At the moment I have to Clear database, rescan all folders to clear the deleted album - rescan folders detecting changes doesn't do it

[PeterP]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

What app are you using to browse Asset library? What if you browse Asset library using some other app?

Some clients (such as Kodi) are known to cache once-viewed folder listings and not poll Asset for changes when browsing.

As far as I can tell Asset does detect addition and removal of albums quickly.

Some settings, under "Options", might help with this:
"Detect & Catalog New Tracks" - Live monitoring for changes in music folders. It also affects detection of removal of stuff. Make sure that it's on.
"Forcibly Check for New Tracks Interval (minutes)" - Intended for use when the above isn't working for some reason, set to non-zero to have Asset walk all folders every N minutes checking if anything changed. However, this basically triggers "rescan folders detecting changes", so if that command didn't help, this one probably won't either.

I also recommend enabling logging under "Troubleshooting" and looking at library logs as they will show whether/when Asset picks each change in your music folder, so we can confirm whether it's really Asset not noticing changes.

[Gidders]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

What app are you using to browse Asset library? What if you browse Asset library using some other app?

Some clients (such as Kodi) are known to cache once-viewed folder listings and not poll Asset for changes when browsing.

As far as I can tell Asset does detect addition and removal of albums quickly.

Some settings, under "Options", might help with this:
"Detect & Catalog New Tracks" - Live monitoring for changes in music folders. It also affects detection of removal of stuff. Make sure that it's on.
"Forcibly Check for New Tracks Interval (minutes)" - Intended for use when the above isn't working for some reason, set to non-zero to have Asset walk all folders every N minutes checking if anything changed. However, this basically triggers "rescan folders detecting changes", so if that command didn't help, this one probably won't either.

I also recommend enabling logging under "Troubleshooting" and looking at library logs as they will show whether/when Asset picks each change in your music folder, so we can confirm whether it's really Asset not noticing changes.

Revising this. Have upgraded to R2023-05-15 & the issue persists.

I have a number of apps to browse & they all show deleted albums
I have tried the suggested "Options" settings but that makes no difference
I've enabled logging but I'm not sure which log (UPnP or Library) to look at or what to look for

Anyone any ideas?

[Gidders]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

BUMP

Can anyone help please

[Spoon]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

You can play a deleted album?

[Gidders]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

You can play a deleted album?

No

[Spoon]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

Some control points cache the albums, if using one on the phone the easy way to check is to uninstall the control point app, then reinstall.

[Gidders]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

Some control points cache the albums, if using one on the phone the easy way to check is to uninstall the control point app, then reinstall.

I have 4 different control points, I have cleared caches, tried uninstalling & reinstalling.

All 4 apps still show the deleted albums &*128557;

[Spoon]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

You would have to manually trigger a rescan (refresh all) within Asset.

[Gidders]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

You would have to manually trigger a rescan (refresh all) within Asset.

Is this a bug in Asset that it doesn't delete, deleted albums? Will it be fixed?

Manually rescanning isn't sufficient - I have to clear the database & fully rebuild it during which time I cant use asset :(

[GBrown]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

Is this a bug in Asset that it doesn't delete, deleted albums? Will it be fixed?

Manually rescanning isn't sufficient - I have to clear the database & fully rebuild it during which time I cant use asset :(

If you delete any file or folder of tracks after Asset has already made a library reference to them, then the only way to remove them from Asset is during a rescan. This is no different than any other indexing system, that has it's own library of data.

[Gidders]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

You would have to manually trigger a rescan (refresh all) within Asset.

If you delete any file or folder of tracks after Asset has already made a library reference to them, then the only way to remove them from Asset is during a rescan. This is no different than any other indexing system, that has it's own library of data.

As stated previously rescanning DOESN'T work - I have to clear the database & totally rebuild it

Surely that shouldn't be necessary

[PeterP]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

Please try Asset R2024 preview-

https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?50902-Asset-UPnP-R2024-beta

Yes, it's going to have to rescan whole library again (database format changed considerably) but once done, changes in your library should be picked up instantly. This includes adding & removal of folder.jpg, which past Asset versions had trouble picking up.
If this STILL isn't dropping deleted albums, please enable library logging and recreate offending scenario (delete an album wait a few minutes, confirm that control points still see the album you just deleted), email logs to peter@dbpoweramp.com

[Gidders]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

Please try Asset R2024 preview-

https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?50902-Asset-UPnP-R2024-beta

Yes, it's going to have to rescan whole library again (database format changed considerably) but once done, changes in your library should be picked up instantly. This includes adding & removal of folder.jpg, which past Asset versions had trouble picking up.
If this STILL isn't dropping deleted albums, please enable library logging and recreate offending scenario (delete an album wait a few minutes, confirm that control points still see the album you just deleted), email logs to peter@dbpoweramp.com

Thanks Peter - now working as expected with that beta version

[Gidders]

Re: Asset on QNAP not Updating on Library changes

Please try Asset R2024 preview-

https://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?50902-Asset-UPnP-R2024-beta

Yes, it's going to have to rescan whole library again (database format changed considerably) but once done, changes in your library should be picked up instantly. This includes adding & removal of folder.jpg, which past Asset versions had trouble picking up.
If this STILL isn't dropping deleted albums, please enable library logging and recreate offending scenario (delete an album wait a few minutes, confirm that control points still see the album you just deleted), email logs to peter@dbpoweramp.com

Thanks Peter, now working as expected with that beta version