Album Artist, Album _Artist.

[ted_p]

Hi.

Quick question before i start sorting the metadata on some of my albums.

When i browse my music using the Naim app under the "Artist" tab then say press "D" not all of the albums surname beginning with "D" are showing.

When i look at the metadata some of my albums have more more than one sort field, some have no sort field (mainly downloads).

Artist Sort
ARTIST_SORT

Album Artist Sort
ALBUM_ARTIST_SORT.

When i edit the metadata do i delete "ARTIST_SORT" and "ALBUM_ARTIST_SORT" or do i add them to the albums that do not have them. Am i right in thinking these duel fields are the cause of my problems.

Naim Uniti Nova.
Qnap HS 251 nas.
Asset 6.2.

Edward

[Spoon]

Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

There is a configuration option to ignore the sort tag:

The Artist & Album Handling has 3 modes (examples using The Beetles):
Smart: this mode keeps the artist text as The Beetles, yet sorts the artist under 'B'
Value, The: places the on the end, for example Beetles, The
Leave as is: does not adjust the displayed value or sorted position

Trying PerfectTUNES will speed up sort management, it can show inconsistent sort tags.

[hovartm]

Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

Not sure if this is correct to post my query as a reply here, if notI apologise

I have noticed recently what appears to be a change to my Asset listings on the client devices.
I always use Album Artist as the main tag for listing. Ths works fine for me.
I am now noticing that some artists names appear within their different lists - e.g. Link Wray appears in both L and W (all albums in both).
However Warren Zevon only appears in W and not Z.

As far as I know, I have not set the AlbumArtistSort or ArtistSort tags. I have Artist Sort Handling set to the default of Display n Sort and Non-Sort Locations for all instances of Asset.
As I say, I have only recently noticed this.
Has something changed in an update to Asset? I updated to version 6.3 in December 2019. Or have I started ding something wrong, or has this always been the case and I have not noticed before?
TIA for any advice.

[Spoon]

Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

>However Warren Zevon only appears in W and not Z.

These tracks will have no artist sort.

> Link Wray appears in both L and W

One or all of these tracks has the artist sort set as 'Wray, Link'

[hovartm]

Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

Thanks Spoon I will checck the tags again.

[hovartm]

Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

Would it be simpler than looking for all Artist Sort tags, to set Artist Sort Handling to ignore?
I have no need tosort in that way.

[hovartm]

Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

I set Artist Sort Handling to ignore and everything is now as I wish...
EXCEPT
even though 'The' Artist & Album Handling is set to Smart, all artists appear in T listing, e.g. Tne Beetles no longer appear in B but now in T no what I require
Does the smart handling make use of the Sort tags in some way?
I will now try setting the 'The' Artist & Album Handling tag to [value], The which hopefully will mean that The Beetles appear in B, albeit listed as Beetles, The.
Ths isrobably not a major issue for me.

[Spoon]

Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

Yes this option requires sorting not to be disabled as it relies on it.

[hovartm]

Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

Thanks Spoon
Setting the 'The' Artist & Album Handling tag to [value] gives the required result.