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  • dewdude

    • Dec 2005
    • 27

    double file entries and internet radio"cannot play play

    Hi gang,

    Just yesterday I received an Onkyo TX-NR515 7.2 network home theater receiver. While I mostly bought it for upscaling analog video to 1080p; I did find myself playing with the network streaming options and being outright impressed.

    Like many people, I tried doing DLNA streaming with Windows MEdia Player; yeah..it works..kind of. But the majority of my music is in FLAC or a format Windows MEdia Player can't handle. That's when I discovered Asset UPnP; and I was excited when I discovered the dbPowerAmp guys were behind it. dbPowerAmp is a necessary part of my software collection; and after viewing the description; decided it was going to be EXACTLY what I need to make my first venture of breaking my vintage audiophile habits; and start "getting with it".

    Now, for the most part; I had absolutely no problems getting it up and running. Told it where my music was; set the formats my receiver doesn't support to LPCM transcoding (thank you for that by the way; really made the value of the program go up); let it catalog all the tracks...and spent hours listening to music being streamed over my network to the receiver. 192khz/24bit FLAC; every random MP3; WMA files; AAC....even the formats that were transcoded to LPCM on the fly. It worked stunningly from the beginning. A small price later and it's now my go-to source for streaming audio over DLNA.

    However, I did notice two problems....and one annoyance.

    I do a lot of folder/file browsing; in fact, that's the main reason I love Asset. But I noticed a problem; there's often double entries. I'll load a folder; and every track will be listed twice. The one thing I did not do (and thought of while typing this) is the presence of .pls or .id3 files which the server may be picking up on and adding. I haven't checked to look and see which folders with double entries had playlist files. But I ask just in case when I do; that's not the culprit.

    However, if it's not due to .pls or .id3 files...what's the cause of this? I would say it's not so annoying; but if I play an album that's got files listed twice...well..it plays them twice.

    I also had some issues with the internet radio. Now, my reciever does come with vTuner in it; but I did notice the selection between vtuner and TuneIn didn't overlap much; so rather than being redundant....it's another great feature. For the most part it works; however; I've gotten quite a few "Cannot Play" errors on stations. I did go in to configuration and set "RADIO" to output as LPCM...and afterwards...the stations that did play showed up as PCM on my receiver. I know, for example, the local NOAA radio has a feed on TuneIn; and that was one of the few that after setting RADIO to LPCM didn't work.

    Does "RADIO" apply to all the radio stations...or is there a specific format it's talking about I'm not aware of?

    The annoyance occurs when I was adding my directories. I keep all my media on an external eSATA drive; and the dialog box Asset uses seems to limit you to not only JUST the local hard drive; but your specific user directory. Now; I was able to work around this by creating a shortcut to my external directory in my user folder; and Asset had no problem accessing it then. I'm sure I'm not the only one who keeps stuff on a second drive; so it might be to everyone elses benefit (and save me some slight hassle going in to command line); if it was easier to access other hard drives/areas.

    As of right now; those are the only three issues I've found with Asset and my particular configuration. Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated.

    But I'd also like to send a huge thanks and "good job" to the illustrate guys that came up and maintain Asset; this has convinced me that network-streaming is in fact a viable option in the future.
    Last edited by dewdude; December 23, 2012, 02:20 AM. Reason: hit enter too early...forgot external drive stuff
  • dbfan
    dBpoweramp Guru

    • Jan 2011
    • 937

    #2
    Re: double file entries and internet radio"cannot play play

    RADIO does apply to all the radio streams.

    It could be the playlists which are adding double entries.

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    • dewdude

      • Dec 2005
      • 27

      #3
      Re: double file entries and internet radio"cannot play play

      Originally posted by mrspoonsi
      RADIO does apply to all the radio streams.

      It could be the playlists which are adding double entries.
      Well, not long after I posted I uninstalled the trail version; installed my registered version; wiped the directories list and had the thing rebuild the catalog.

      I did not see the double entries this time; even the directories that had .m3u files in them...so I don't know what was causing it before. It seems to have gone away.

      I'm also coming to the conclusion the radio streams that won't work are just some very odd UPnP issue. While my receiver has Rhapsody built in; I tried Rhapsody PC program's built in uPnP; which should be outputting either PCM, WMA, or AAC; all formats my receiver supports. But it too failed to play with the same error message...but apparently that's a problem that *everyone* has had with Rhapsody and they seem none too interested to fix it.

      I'm probably going to have to find a PC based player so I can try to get some output of what formats it's actually trying to output; something with a little more verbose information. But it doesn't appear to be a bug specific to Asset; so I'm just going to have to play with it. I'm entirely new to uPnP/DLNA; having previously rejected the idea, so I've got a few things to learn.

      Thanks.

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