Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes)

*Spoon* · 03-19-2006, 05:18 PM

Now included in the mp4 Release 4 codec pack beta:

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthre...2571*blooper*post52571

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After many months of wrangling with issues with the ALAC format (iTunes would read the files fine, but not iPods), Illustrate can proudly announce a worlds first, the first non-Apple dependant Apple Lossless Encoder.

This codec does not require iTunes, or Quicktime and has the advantage of being faster than Apples encoder! (x50 encoding speed on my AMD 64).

Follow these instructions carefully to install:

Install dMC R11.5
Install the m4a decoder (required for tag writing):

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codecs/dBp...-codec-mp4.exe

and save this file to \Program Files\Illustrate\dBpowerAMP\Compression\Apple Lossless.dll:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/beta/Apple%20Lossless.dll

65KB

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Update 12th May 2006:

Codec updated, tagging issue fixed (any existing dbpoweramp created alac files, simply reconvert to alac and it is fixed).

emilles · 03-20-2006, 03:13 PM

I understand that the source for this encoder is closed at this time. In the meantime, is there an external interface available so that I could call the encoding functionality from an application of my own? I am assuming there would be a license agreement to abide by...

*Spoon* · 03-20-2006, 03:47 PM

It is possible to control dbpoweramp through COM object scripting.

lucky · 03-20-2006, 04:06 PM

I would love this to use with my foobar converter anytime soon. Do you plan to open it up?

*Spoon* · 03-21-2006, 04:49 PM

We are not allowed by license to open it, or sub-license.

Jon Fenton · 03-22-2006, 01:14 PM

I have tried converting a few FLAC files using the new encoder. I like the speed and look forward to using it but have found the tags are not read by iTunes. They are read by dbpowerAMP. There are also dropouts when playing. Thanks for the work you have put in.

System specs:
Pentium 4 3Ghz HT
Windows XP SP2
iTunes 6.0.4.2

*Spoon* · 03-22-2006, 01:43 PM

When you hold the mouse over the converted .m4a file it shows the tags?

Jon Fenton · 03-22-2006, 02:05 PM

All tags are shown when holding the mouse over the file.

*Spoon* · 03-22-2006, 04:15 PM

It is the first time I have heard of a m4a tagging problem (for aac they seem to be read by iTunes). As a test try encoding an m4a (aac) file and see if iTunes likes the tag.

*Spoon* · 03-22-2006, 04:15 PM

Oh yes, is this for all files or just one?

Jon Fenton · 03-22-2006, 04:25 PM

I used the FAAC encoder to create some m4a files and these play fine and the tags are displayed in iTunes.

The problems with the tags occurs with all the files I have tried. The problem with playback appears to be a couple of corrupt FLAC files I initially used.

*Spoon* · 03-23-2006, 03:38 PM

Using the latest version of iTunes?

Jon Fenton · 03-24-2006, 08:30 AM

volvoguy · 03-24-2006, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoon

Oh yes, is this for all files or just one?

I'm experiencing the same problem with all the FLAC files I try to convert.

iTunes 6.0.4.2
dMC R11.5
m4a decoder
Latest FLAC

The FLAC files were created with dMC and have proper tags. m4a files encoded with this new encoder show tags when hovering in Windows Explorer, but nothing in iTunes. I've attached a few screenshots in case they're of interest to you.

Otherwise it seems to work great.

Aaron

Reardon · 03-26-2006, 01:03 PM

Small issue: you should change your build env so that this is not marked as "Monkey's Audio" encoder.

03-19-2006, 05:18 PM	#1
Spoon Da Man Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 17,893	Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) Now included in the mp4 Release 4 codec pack beta: http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthre...2571blooperpost52571 ----------- After many months of wrangling with issues with the ALAC format (iTunes would read the files fine, but not iPods), Illustrate can proudly announce a worlds first, the first non-Apple dependant Apple Lossless Encoder. This codec does not require iTunes, or Quicktime and has the advantage of being faster than Apples encoder! (x50 encoding speed on my AMD 64). Follow these instructions carefully to install: Install dMC R11.5 Install the m4a decoder (required for tag writing): http://www.dbpoweramp.com/codecs/dBp...-codec-mp4.exe and save this file to \Program Files\Illustrate\dBpowerAMP\Compression\Apple Lossless.dll: http://www.dbpoweramp.com/beta/Apple%20Lossless.dll 65KB ------ Update 12th May 2006: Codec updated, tagging issue fixed (any existing dbpoweramp created alac files, simply reconvert to alac and it is fixed). __________________ Spoon www.dbpoweramp.com Last edited by Spoon; 05-24-2006 at 06:12 AM.

03-20-2006, 03:13 PM	#2
emilles Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) I understand that the source for this encoder is closed at this time. In the meantime, is there an external interface available so that I could call the encoding functionality from an application of my own? I am assuming there would be a license agreement to abide by...

03-20-2006, 03:47 PM	#3
Spoon Da Man Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 17,893	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) It is possible to control dbpoweramp through COM object scripting. __________________ Spoon www.dbpoweramp.com

03-20-2006, 04:06 PM	#4
lucky Banned Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 84	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) I would love this to use with my foobar converter anytime soon. Do you plan to open it up?

03-21-2006, 04:49 PM	#5
Spoon Da Man Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 17,893	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) We are not allowed by license to open it, or sub-license. __________________ Spoon www.dbpoweramp.com

03-22-2006, 01:14 PM	#6
Jon Fenton Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 20	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) I have tried converting a few FLAC files using the new encoder. I like the speed and look forward to using it but have found the tags are not read by iTunes. They are read by dbpowerAMP. There are also dropouts when playing. Thanks for the work you have put in. System specs: Pentium 4 3Ghz HT Windows XP SP2 iTunes 6.0.4.2

03-22-2006, 01:43 PM	#7
Spoon Da Man Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 17,893	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) When you hold the mouse over the converted .m4a file it shows the tags? __________________ Spoon www.dbpoweramp.com

03-22-2006, 02:05 PM	#8
Jon Fenton Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 20	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) All tags are shown when holding the mouse over the file.

03-22-2006, 04:15 PM	#9
Spoon Da Man Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 17,893	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) It is the first time I have heard of a m4a tagging problem (for aac they seem to be read by iTunes). As a test try encoding an m4a (aac) file and see if iTunes likes the tag. __________________ Spoon www.dbpoweramp.com

03-22-2006, 04:25 PM	#11
Jon Fenton Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 20	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) I used the FAAC encoder to create some m4a files and these play fine and the tags are displayed in iTunes. The problems with the tags occurs with all the files I have tried. The problem with playback appears to be a couple of corrupt FLAC files I initially used.

03-23-2006, 03:38 PM	#12
Spoon Da Man Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 17,893	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) Using the latest version of iTunes? __________________ Spoon www.dbpoweramp.com

03-24-2006, 08:30 AM	#13
Jon Fenton Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 20	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) Yes.

03-26-2006, 01:03 PM	#15
Reardon Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 9	Re: Beta: Apple Lossless Encoder (native, does not require iTunes) Small issue: you should change your build env so that this is not marked as "Monkey's Audio" encoder.

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