Discussion of dMC R12 Alpha

[Spoon]

All R12 discussions can be made here.

[xoas]

Looks promising. I was surprised to find that tracks converted to mp3 Lame some time ago are misattributed to FhG (although this is also labelled as a "(Guess)"). This is surprising but it does not bug me. I hope that the use of "(Guess)" might help some users develop a better appreciation of this.

I was also surprised to find that some tracks recorded from LP seem to have developed quite a bit of tag information from somewhere (like Publisher and Composer). Any idea where this information may have from?

One other question: I note that several tags now display a field labelled length which does not appear to reflect either playing time or file size. Do you know what this refers to?

Mp3 tracks ripped with the new codec are listed as being gapless. Is this so (I ask because Spoon indicated that this would not really be functional until alpha 2).

For those on the fence about trying out the alpha, it seems (knock on wood) stable in my limited experience with it. It does not appear to inhibit the overall functionality of dMC for other uses except for blocking the Pop-Up Tag information (and Windows Explorer) displays for formats other than mp3 and wave. dAP does not appear to be inhibited in any way, although tags in dAP are less extensive than those in the Pop-Up info for Windows/dMC. I have not yet tried messing with dCW.

I'll share other questions/feedback as I experiment further.

Best wishes,
Bi

[Spoon]

> (like Publisher and Composer).

If they have propper values then they must have come from somewhere, perhaps WMP filled them in?

>I note that several tags now display a field labelled length which does not appear to reflect

Give an example please, this is for mp3?

>Is this so

If a track is gapless then it is gapless (even if the program is not able to make use of it, see alpha 2).

Anyhow Alpha 2 is out now, to make full use of the improved mp3 codec.

[Dryden]

Is the new version going to have the ability to read and create cue sheets for audio files?

[Spoon]

Yes it will do.

[Dryden]

Great. Thanks.
One last question. I already kinda asked this in a different part of the forum and a moderator answered me, but he wasn't exacly sure about the details. So, I figure I should ask "Da Man" himself.
What kind of multi-channel (more than two) functionality will the new dMC have?
In other words, will it have the ability to rip DVD audio?

Thanks again

[Spoon]

The current dMC can handle multi-channel (ok might be some issues with directx), ripping dvd is a different kettle of fish (totally different program).

[Carlton Bale]

I rip the 2-channel DVD tracks from concert discs (LPCM/RAW -> FLAC). The 2-channel tracks are generally in 24-bit, 48 kHz format.

If you want to rip / convert Dolby Digital or DTS, this is where there is a problem. I found some info in a Slim Devices Forum Post (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=19260&highlight=python+digital) on how to convert these files to playable formats, but Video Lan Client is the only player I know that plays DTS/DD files. If dMC could convert to multi-channel mp3 or WMA, that would be an amazing addition, but I understand the complexity.

[MrTeacup]

Is it possible to support the IKEY Keywords tag of the RIFF INFO spec for wav files on the property sheet editor?

[Spoon]

Is it possible to support the IKEY Keywords tag of the RIFF INFO spec for wav files on the property sheet editor?

If you could send a small wave file with this to

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/email.htm

[MrTeacup]

Actually, it looks like the property editor already supports this. Creating a new ID tag and naming it 'Keywords' adds the IKEY tag to the wav.

[Dryden]

Sorry about all of the multi-channel questions, but everything else associated with dMC has always worked perfectly with me.

So here is another:
Will the dMC popups be able to show correct info regarding an audio file with more than 2 channels? I have some ac3 files that I know are 6 channels at 448 kb/s and dMC tells me it is just 2 channels.

Thanks again.

[LtData]

Right now I believe dMC is only multi-channel aware for WMA and WAV. I checked and AC3Filter does support multiple channels. It might also just be a limitation of the DirectShow Decoder DMC uses.

[Dryden]

Will there be an option to encode files that are in seperate folders at the same time instead of having to encode each folder one at a time?
I hope I explained it well enough...

[LtData]

You can do that now. Use the dMC File Selector located in the "dBpowerAMP Music Converter" folder under the Start Menu in programs.

[Dryden]

Oh...Woops...
Im terribly sorry for my ignorance. I never noticed that thing before. Thank you.

[volvoguy]

Just a quick curiosity. With the exception of broken popups in Explorer, is it possible to have the stable and alpha dMC installed on the same system (in different directories of course)?

I'm looking forward to a new release. This app is one of the first I install after a reformat (gotta love Windows), and I consider it one of the most useful - and I'm a graphic designer with $2000 worth of Adobe/Corel/Macromedia products. :) Keep up the good work!

Aaron

[xoas]

I'm not entirely sure what you are asking. I have the R12 alpha 2 installed over dMC R11.5. All of the R11.5 features work fine except for the Pop-Up Info for all files that are not wave or .mp3. Configuration for the R12 alpha is located in a different location than the dMC Configuration.

Best wishes,
Bill

[volvoguy]

I'm not entirely sure what you are asking. I have the R12 alpha 2 installed over dMC R11.5. All of the R11.5 features work fine except for the Pop-Up Info for all files that are not wave or .mp3. Configuration for the R12 alpha is located in a different location than the dMC Configuration.

Hmm... I think you answered my question. :) I guess I wanted to know whether both versions could be installed so that if R12 fails miserably on something, I can still get the task done with R11.5. I suppose for alpha stage software I should really have it installed on a secondary machine to be completely safe.

When you say that the configuration for R12 is in a different location, I assume that means that each version can be used independently from the other (which is what I'd like to be able to do until at least the beta stage).

Thanks.

Aaron

[Spoon]

R12 takes over R11.5, the next release (perhaps next week...) will give a full converter (with the expense of stopping CD Input + Aux Input + File Selector + Sveta from working). That is why it is still an Alpha (although perhaps as stable as r11.5), it is not functional to be working (unless al you work in is Wave and Mp3...)

[xoas]

When you say that the configuration for R12 is in a different location, I assume that means that each version can be used independently from the other (which is what I'd like to be able to do until at least the beta stage).
From the standpoint of the your interface with the program, R11.5 and the R12 alpha function as a single program. I was merely trying to explain that the current R12 alpha 2 release has certain settings that are controlled through a different configuration window than R11.5 uses. I have not tried to experiment with trying to figure whether areas where settings overlap between R11.5 and R12 whether the R12 configuration settings over-ride R11.5 settings for parts that are distinctly R11.5 (such as the Audio CD Input, file selector, and Auxilary Input interfaces, or tagging for files other than wave or .mp3) or whether changing a setting in the dMC R11.5 Configuration will automatically change the same setting in R12 Configuration, or what. But for right now, these are essentially a single program which features some advanced tagging features for wave and .mp3 files and true gapless .mp3 encoding at the cost of losing Pop-Up Tag Info for formats other than .mp3 and .wave.

Based on Spoon's comment above, it looks like the next R12 alpha release will more seriously interfere with R11.5 except for wave and .mp3 files. I suspect that this will create more inconvenience for R12 alpha users who use other file formats (Monkeys, FLAC, Ogg Vorbis,...). In the fullness of time this situation will self-correct as other codecs are updated for the R12 version.

We will need to see what the new changes in the R12 alpha will provide and the degree of obstacle that it will provide if you want to be able to use other file formats as well.

Best wishes,
Bill

[Razgo]

just installed the alpha release but my config still says dmc 11.5. is this right?

[LtData]

Are you using the right config? Apparently, according to xoas, there is a different location for dMC Configuration

[Razgo]

yes i saw that also. buggered if i know hwere it is then :(


/edit

i might wait until beta anyway as there doesn't seem any point to the alpha unless Spoon wants something in particular tested before it goes beta?

[xoas]

just installed the alpha release but my config still says dmc 11.5. is this right?

Yes, this is right.
The R12 Alpha 2 configuration screen can be found as dBpowerAMP Configuration. You can find this through Start>All Programs>dBpowerAMP>Configuration>dBpowerAMP Configuration. This does not actually identify installation of the R12 Alpha or the alpha version #. It does contain controls for tagging options, Pop-Up Info Tips, Professional Frequency Conversion, and custom column display in Windows Explorer. The Lame encoder has some improvements including gapless encoding. R12 Alpha also generates tag information for wave files.

While all other codecs still work as per R11.5, you do lose Pop-Up Info Tips with R12 alpha except for wave and .mp3. As new R12 Alpha releases come along, it looks like they will take over more and more of R11.5. Whether this will create additional inconvenience for users or not or whether the new features are/will be worth the inconvenience is for each user to decide.

Best wishes,
Bill

[Razgo]

ok, thanks.

no inconvenience if we don't use the alpha version :D

i havent read anywhere that spoon has requested specific user tests, so i figured the alpha releases are for those that MUST have it NOW! :D

[Bill41]

Hi Spoon

I've been trying out R12 Alpha3 and have been very impressed by it. One problem I ran across was that it still will not decode some free format files while the Mad 0.15.2b decoder has no problems with them. The popup tags offer no clues. When viewing the songs with winLame, the songs with less than 384 kbps are the ones that dmc seems to have problems reading. I have no idea what this means but I thought I'd throw it out there. :smile2: Keep up the good work.
Bill

[Spoon]

Just my ignorance, I thought there were no real freeformat under 384kbps, there is special code that is run to detect freeformat above those bitrates, I will have to look again at lower bitrates (but really don't want to do anything that arses the new mp3 reader).

[Bill41]

Since I don't have any freeformat files over 384 kbps I wouldn't know and since the popup tags didn't give a clue as to which files dmc would and would not read I noticed in the winLame frontend that all the files that showed to be less than 384 kbps were the ones that dmc would not read and the ones that show 384 kbps were the ones that dmc did read. I was not trying to show my vast knowledge of the subject because I have none. The popup tags do show bit rates of less than 384 and it reads some and others it does not.
Bill

[good_reason]

OS: winxpsp2 Pro Eng ( system locale: Chinese Simplified) + Surrogate support

hi,
I just take a glace at v12 alpha3 , seems that it is really with Full Unicode support.
The Pop-up Info can show the (either unicode or ANSI) Chinese TAG in MP3 files correctly. ;)
Futhermore, i can write the Chinese TAG correctly with ID-TAG properties.

The only bug i found is:
If i convert a tagged mp3 to wave, the Chinese tags which written in to the WAVE file is truncated.

now, i will back to v11.5 immediately, coz i need wave files that WITHOUT any TAG :D

with best regards,
good_reason

[Spoon]

or you can switch off wave tagging in R12.

[EliC]

Any updates? Based on the post on HA I was hoping to see an alpha of the CD ripper soon.

[LtData]

See here for Spoon's Development diary, including what he is currently working on: http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?t=9480

From the post, Spoon is hard at work on the CD ripper. It is taking longer than normal due to him revamping the ripping and making it Secure or, in his words, better than EAC at getting the audio off if it is possible.

[Spoon]

Perhaps this week...

[Vulcan]

Perhaps this week...
I saw on HA that you were shooting for early this week, is this still the case?

[LtData]

The CD ripper is released. Get it at the link in my signature.

Also, I'm so close to using this, all I need is a Ogg Vorbis encoder and I am so there.

[kwanbis]

Hi Spoon, first of all, let me tell you that dbpoweramp is my favorite cd ripper. Al i can say, is only with the intention of improving it.

In general, i feel like the dbpoweramp interface is non standard. In particular the options dialog box. Is weird, i have to "think it" before using it. I would try to expand latter on the problems. (Shouldn't it be some begginer an advanced options?)

Regarding the MP3/LAME config, i don't get the drop box with the encoding: fast, normal, low settings. How do they relate to -vbr and -vbr-new? That is the only part i don't get, or that i think is difficult to understand. I would also remove, or put in advanced, the "free format" option.

But R12 looks really nice ...

You just need to add support for MAREO ;)

[Spoon]

> (Shouldn't it be some begginer an advanced options?)

Yes eventually, for the moment all options are thrown in together.

-vbr-new is used for all conversions, the fast / normal are other older lame options.

[Spoon]

> support for MAREO

See the CLI Encoder link above, it will work with anything...

[Paul_B]

The R12 Beta is looking good. Do you have an ETA for a FLAC Codec?

[kwanbis]

> -vbr-new is used for all conversions, the fast / normal are other older lame options.
so, what would the equivalent of

-v 5 -vbr-new would be then?

[Demodave]

I see that DSP effects have not been implemented as of yet. The two functions I do use quite often are Volume Normalize and Quieten. If I install the latest alpha, will I lose these?

[Spoon]

-v 5 will be the same as your line.

DSP effects would be lost with this alpha, they are not implemented in the slightest yet.

[LtData]

Yes.

[kwanbis]

-v 5 will be the same as your line.
but should i also select:

Slow (High Quality)
Normal
Fast (Low Quality)

[EliC]

So far I am VERY impressed. It will be nice to not have my computer freeze up when ripping difficult discs.

Suggestions:
-a skip button for rips that are taking to long
-use one of the frames at the bottom for displaying more info on the current rip job instead of setting that should not need to be changed very often, if at all.
-add quality data (ie # of C2 errors returned)
-allow for per track genre tagging
-hopefully AMG meta data will separate featured artist from other primary artist and this could be separated in tags as well for better sorting

[Paul_B]

Hi guys I posted this earlier but I guess it may have been missed.

The R12 Beta is looking good. Do you have an ETA for a FLAC Codec?

[LtData]

Spoon is working on moving all codecs to dMC r12, but he continues to work on the program itself. I feel your pain, I desperately want an Ogg Vorbis codec, but I'll take quality over getting it done quick.

[Paul_B]

It is not a problem as I feel the same. It is a good product and getting even better. I will just go back to r11 for now.

[Spoon]

@kwanbis

Leave on Normal

@Ltdata

Try the CLI Encoder and encode to ogg with that

@EliC

>a skip button for rips that are taking to long

ATM clicking the rip button can cancel a rip

>-add quality data (ie # of C2 errors returned)

For the end?

>-allow for per track genre tagging

Already done, select a single track and change genre

[EliC]

>-add quality data (ie # of C2 errors returned)

For the end?

for each track




>-allow for per track genre tagging

Already done, select a single track and change genre

Ive tried that and it doesnt seem to work

Edit: oh, after selecting a track to you change the genre at the top? It would be better IMHO to change the genre on a per track basis in line with the song

[awnm]

I've been trying R12 with the secure CD ripper - the speed of ripping when using Accuraterip to confirm results is very promising. Thanks for all your work.

You just need to add support for MAREO ;)
See the CLI Encoder link above, it will work with anything
I've been trying to get it working with MAREO, however not having much luck. The command line I have is as follows:

mareo.ini "[infile]" "[outfile]" "[artist]" "[album]" "[title]" "[track]" "[year]" "[genre]"

dMC rips it ok (very fast!), but then nothing seems to happen - MAREO does not appear to start, or flashes up very quickly - and the MAREO log is blank. MAREO is definitely being called, because if I remove the quotes from the variables above MAREO crashes!

Something is happening, but I can't work out what. Kwanbis I was hoping you might have it working, or at least have access to some debug modes in MAREO. I followed your earlier thread where there were no variables being passed - that seems to be working now. If I run dMC in debug mode, I can see the command line that is being passed and the variables are all filled in.

MAREO is configured right, as if I run it from the command line it encodes as expected.

Sorry for the ramble, but if anyone has any insight, it would be appreciated!

Thanks.

[Spoon]

>mareo.ini

perhaps you need a full path to mareo.ini

[kwanbis]

i would take a look.

[awnm]

perhaps you need a full path to mareo.ini
Tried that with no success - in fact I think when I put the full path (with or without quotes) MAREO crashed, oddly. Thanks for the suggestion Spoon, and for looking kwanbis.

[EliC]

@EliC

>a skip button for rips that are taking to long

ATM clicking the rip button can cancel a rip



I would prefer to be able to just skip one track that is being a problem and continue with the rest of the rip. Hope that is clearer.

[Spoon]

Next release will have a skip.

[Paul_B]

Any intention to be able to download cover art? This is the only thing missing with the product at the moment and for which I have to use another product, MP3Tag.

[EliC]

yes, cover art will be downloaded from AMG when support is implemented. Hopefully there will be support for other cover art resources as a backup.

[Vulcan]

Great work spoon. The interface is still abit clunky but its much much better than past verisons.

How and when will cue and log file creation be implemented?

[Paul_B]

Thanks Elic.

BTW got FLAC working now using the CLI encoder and the supplied syntax provided by Spoon. I am well chuffed that I can now use R12 in anger.

Is the profile feature still being worked on as it does seem to allow free-text input at the moment?

[Spoon]

Log files and cue sheets will be on the way as will profiles.

[Kluyg]

Log files and cue sheets will be on the way as will profiles.
Going to buy this great program then :) I always rip disks to the single flac file and CUE (using EAC, foobar is able to play such files) and if my CD brokes I always can make a copy 1:1. Great work Spoon! Thank you.

[sk11vengeance]

Looks promising. I was surprised to find that tracks converted to mp3 Lame some time ago are misattributed to FhG (although this is also labelled as a "(Guess)"). This is surprising but it does not bug me. I hope that the use of "(Guess)" might help some users develop a better appreciation of this.



this has bugged me for some time lol. ive always used dmc-r10 to get around it because only in that version the encoder and type is properly displayed i believe for mp3 files. i was hoping it would be fixed in this new version. it bugs me that most of the files are fhg or Guess based. i like to see what encoder it is because to me Lame is the best one and sounds better than the rest.

ive also wondered what is causing this "bug" if you will. is there some code change that caused it? different way the program tries to read the file info to get the encoder info or something? and most importantly, when will it be fixed, if at all?

btw good work so far, looks good. i hope it will be windows vista ready :thumbup: :D

[Spoon]

In early lame versions the lame tag was not written, that is the best way of identifying if the file came from lame. Older versions uses to scan huge chunks of mp3 files and search for Lame (older lame uses to write blank mp3 frames with the name lame) that had a big performance hit on reading the files attribs so is not in current.

[EliC]

Just wondering when replaygain (album and track) scanning will be added to the ripper?

[sk11vengeance]

In early lame versions the lame tag was not written, that is the best way of identifying if the file came from lame. Older versions uses to scan huge chunks of mp3 files and search for Lame (older lame uses to write blank mp3 frames with the name lame) that had a big performance hit on reading the files attribs so is not in current.

where is the performance hit at? i mean i dont notice it. you must have to have a slow computer because most people today have pretty fast computers :D

id rather have accuracy over performance myself. who all is with me? maybe we can convince spoon to change it :D :thumbup:

or how about at least enable the option to choose which way you want it to read the encoder info, the older "slower" way or the new way. i think that would be a very nice option.

[Spoon]

Replay gain will appear when DSP effects are implemented, couple of months.

[donny]

well you don't need a slow computer, you just need to burden it right... for example running heavy development apps can slow down a lot. and then you notice that skiping is kinda slow...

I jammed up 100% procesor usage on a double dual processor p4 with 2Gb or ram at my faculty - some applications are just demanding :)

[gaillard]

Hey spoon,

I was wondering what the program means when it says it has an error, accurate rip says its innacurate but it says secure with a check mark...

what is the secure or insecure thing, does it have anything to do with accuraterip?

thanks spoon

[Spoon]

If it is an 'i' Secure then it means re-reads were required and it is a warning that the rip might not be secure.

Secure comes in when AccurateRip cannot verify the rip, it could be the rip really had errors, or that that cd was not in accuraterip.

[Vulcan]

any plans for when the next alpha will be released spoon?

[hanschke]

today the alpha 4 told me that my power pack is experienced :( i have installed 11.5 registerd and updated with the 12er alpha.

[Spoon]

Unfortunately R12 has timed (it was running as Reference, it has defaulted to Free) out 1st September, there will be a new update shortly which fixes this.

Next release has preview, profiles, column selection and compilation done in CD Ripper.

[gaillard]

So if it says secure and the cd is not in accuraterip then it did not have any uncorrectable c2 errors AND the re-reads went allright too? Will it report any of that or should i assume?

Let me get this straight. If a sector of the cd is read and doesn't report a c2 error then if ultra passes are on it will re-read those spots the minimum times right?

ps what are the requirements for it to report insecure...
and if it does say secure, that is an improvement over eac right? because its using c2 WITH re-reads, am i correct here

pps. sorry to be such a bother spoon, you've been very tolerant. but your software excites me =D

[LtData]

See here for more information about the new secure feature: http://dbpoweramp.com/secure-ripper.htm

[gaillard]

is there a way to select secure anymore now that the r12 is timed out?

registry change or something?
I'm trying to test some older drives....

[Paul_B]

Reset the computer clock before 1st September?

[hanschke]

@spoon

thats nice to read :)

[Spoon]

Updated to R12 Alpha 5 without lockout.

[gaillard]

thanks spoon. I will post my results with my new plextor 708a on a TON of library (pretty scratched stuff) cd... and do some eac comparisons.

[Paul_B]

I am getting a consistent CD error on ripping particuliar track. I have enabled secure ripping but I can't hear it trying to re-read a bad sector or going to a pass 2 at a lower speed.

The disc rips okay with Media Player 11 to WAV lossless and upon playing seems to sound okay.

The error is:

Error ripping to CLI Encoder, 'Track 18' to 'S:\music\Morcheeba\Part Of The Process (The Very Best Of)\18-Can't Stand It.flac'
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 352525) [clRipperSecure::Rip]

Anything obvious from the error message?

[Spoon]

Is it the last track?

[Paul_B]

Yes it is the last track on the album

[gaillard]

does that have something to do with your drive not being able to read lead in lead out?

[Spoon]

Only if it was the very last LBA, right click on a column and switch on Start and End LBA addresses, then see if 352525 is right at the end of the cd.

[gaillard]

hey spoon,

my 708a plextor is up and running and I was just wondering about the cache. I have updated its firmware to the latest version. When i detect cache with a brand new cd it says the cache is 0... I thought this drive cached...?

thanks for the help spoon.

[gaillard]

k got a ? spoon.

I have this cd called innocent man by billey joel. accurate rip says its inaccurate with a confidence of 3 but the tracks are all saying secure. this is with 2 min passes pass on 2 and 16 max with cache on fua on lead in lead out on c2 on, with a plextor 708a...

I thought for sure the error would be caught...?

[gaillard]

well i can't get ANY cd's to report c2 with the detection... eac reports it though, anything wrong?

do plextor drives only report the error if its not correctable or something?

ive tried just a ton of very scratched cd's with the detection

thanks spoon

[Spoon]

Try upating the firmware of the plextor.

[gaillard]

Try upating the firmware of the plextor.

its at the latest version they offer on their site.

does your 708a work when you do the c2 detection? i have tried about 10 cd's and not one came up with it once.

[Spoon]

Yes c2 works on my 708a, which windows version do you have? what is th communication set to when you click options.

>accurate rip says its inaccurate with a confidence of 3 but the tracks are all saying secure.

If all tracks are inaccurate the ripper should say ? Different pressing, it is likely the cd is a different pressing.

The cache on the 708a will not be detected if FUA is checked (this is correct because FUA is removing the cache).

[gaillard]

i've got windows xp professional and its on scsi passthrough should it not be?

it detects it with eac, is this a software issue or hardware?

im so troublesome...

[gaillard]

what firmware are you using? im on the newest but are you one behind the newest maybe?

[Spoon]

SCSI Pass through is correct, send me an email:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/email.htm

and we can try you on the new version when it is ready soon.

[gaillard]

just so you know, i have no idea what is causing this... but i have this sarah brightman cd and at one spot in one particular track it causes a stop error and i get the blue screen and i have to restart. i did just install this thing and its a fresh installation...

[gaillard]

just tested with nero cdspeed and it found tons of c2 errors

so that checks out

[gaillard]

drool drooool... =D

[gaillard]

i don't mean to be a nag but when you say soon do you mean weeks or do you mean its coming out in a day or so?

edit: sorry i'll keep it to a minimum

[LtData]

He probably means a few weeks, but only he can say for sure.

Also, please try not to post so many short posts, it tends to clutter up the thread.

[gaillard]

I'd be interested to see if any 708a plextor owners out there get c2 return errors on the c2 detection with the new ripper...

any takers?? =)

[gaillard]

I don't quite understand this result. on the yo-yo ma plays ennio morricone cd i get all accuraterip results (2) except the last track

which is a accuraterip innacurate (2) but secure.

a pressing is for the whole cd right?

ps. this is the last track on the cd.

[kwanbis]

I just downloaded A5. Does the CLI works? It just does nothing. I end up with a *.ext file, but the command prompt window doesnt even opens.

[LtData]

If the last track is inaccurate on multiple CDs, its possible you CD drive has problems reading into the lead out.

[LtData]

I'd be interested to see if any 708a plextor owners out there get c2 return errors on the c2 detection with the new ripper...

any takers?? =)
Spoon already said his 708a gives c2 results correctly.

[gaillard]

as does mine on the rips itself because i checked with eac (it detects the drive has c2) and it when enabled caught a known c2 error of mine. with only c2 enabled in db it caught it in the same place too, so it gets the errors in ripping but doesn't in the detection routine... thats what we are trying to fix

my 708a does read into lead in lead out, is it possible the other 2 people that accurate has for that cd don't and thats why mine copied with no errors just innacurate by accuraterip?

[gaillard]

I just downloaded A5. Does the CLI works? It just does nothing. I end up with a *.ext file, but the command prompt window doesnt even opens.

You need to change the file extension to .whatever - all this information is in the cli help file that should be loaded when you loaded the plugin ex. start/programs/dbpoweramp/help/codecs/cli

hope that helps

[lump1]

Hi, I don't know if this is the right thread for posting this observation, but I spent a bit of time today playing with 12alpha5, in the hopes that multithreaded encoding is ready to go.

And I did sort of get it to work with the new CLI plugin and lame.exe. It did manage to get both my cores to 100% useage but I kept getting unknown errors when a job finished. What's worse, the CPUs stayed at 100% even after one long bit of encoding was done. Then everything ran very shakily for a while and (for the first time ever) my Core2 Duo machine crashed and rebooted itself.

That's what I get for playing with alpha software, but I thought I'd mention it somewhere here in the forum.

It's possible I misconfigured the CLI since the syntax seems to have changed a bit. I've now uninstalled v12 so that I can return to using 11.5. I'm happy with the direction dMC is taking, here's hoping for more stability!

[Spoon]

@galliard - with a confidence only 2 you cannot be sure what is what, try ripping it in EAC see that that does with the last track.

@lump - why not use dbpoweramps built in lame encoder? that would be better for multi-processor. Also if you computer is Win2000 / XP a normal running program (like dbpoweramp) shouldnt be able to crash and reboot windows, even it it tried to do that! sounds like your cpu was over heating.

[kwanbis]

You need to change the file extension to .whatever - all this information is in the cli help file that should be loaded when you loaded the plugin ex. start/programs/dbpoweramp/help/codecs/cli

hope that helps
the problem is that the external encoder is not even called. the ext file is a 0 byte one.

[Spoon]

You have clicked the locate button? perhaps your command line is wrong.

[gaillard]

the problem is that the external encoder is not even called. the ext file is a 0 byte one.

Also, if it's an ext file you didn't change the extension (cli help file)

[kwanbis]

i don't see where i need to change the extension. I do have the encoder located, and the command line is the basic one:

http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/517/dbpamply4.png

[gaillard]

heres the info from the cli file,

Follow these steps to setup the encoder:

1. First off you need a command-line encoder, for this example neroAacEnc.exe will be used (Nero's mp4 encoder), we have saved this encoder to c:\.
2. Looking in c:\program files\illustrate\dbpoweramp\encoder\cli encoder\ is a file called encoder.txt, edit this file to change the extension of the encoder, in this example .m4a
3. Load dBpowerAMP and select the codec CLI Encoder and click Locate Encoder, find and select c:\neroAacEnc.exe.
4. Look at the encoder being used, you need to know if the encoder can work with stdin (where audio is piped in, normally by specifying - on the command line, or if a temporary file is required), Nero can work with stdin where it expects a command line as: -if - -of c:\final.m4a We would set Command Line in dBpowerAMP to -if - -of [outfile] [outfile] is a dbpoweramp dynamic item which is auto-filled with the final filename (a short pathname is used such as c:\file~1.wav to ensure compatibility with non-unicode encoders & that spaces in the filename will not trouble the encoder). If Nero did not use stdin pipes we would have to supply a temporary file, in this instance the command line would be: -if [infile] -of [outfile].
5. Decide how to tell the encoder which format the source audio is, normally Pass Wave Header is left checked and the format is passed in a wave header, if the encoder expects no headers uncheck this and supply frequency & channels, etc on the command line with dynamic items.

hope this helps

[kwanbis]

It looks like it has something to do with the stdin vs temp thing.

It is not clear from this:

"Nero can work with stdin where it expects a command line as: -if - -of c:\final.m4a We would set Command Line in dBpowerAMP to -if - -of [outfile] [outfile] is a dbpoweramp dynamic item which is auto-filled with the final filename (a short pathname is used such as c:\file~1.wav to ensure compatibility with non-unicode encoders & that spaces in the filename will not trouble the encoder). If Nero did not use stdin pipes we would have to supply a temporary file, in this instance the command line would be: -if [infile] -of [outfile]."

how do you tell dbpoweramp, to use a temp file.

Is "-if (input file?) -" the way? or is -if part of nero encoder command?

I tried with lame, witch understand stdin, and it generated a file. So the problem seems to be if the encoder needs a temporal file.

-

[Spoon]

If Nero did not use stdin pipes we would have to supply a temporary file, in this instance the command line would be: -if [infile] -of [outfile]

-if is part of nero, [infile] is the tmp filename and stdin would not be used.

[kwanbis]

-if is part of nero, [infile] is the tmp filename and stdin would not be used.
That is what i thought. Have you tried it with tmp file? Cause it is not working here.

[kwanbis]

Last, a sugestion, why isn't the CLI ext configurable on the same place where we set, for example, the command line? It should be easier.

[Spoon]

The program needs to know the extension before the setup page is shown.

TMP files do work, try with Lame.exe and

-V2 [infile] [outfile]

[kwanbis]

ok, the problem appears to be that dbpamp hides the dos box.

I called MAREO using [infile] [outfile] [artist] [abum] [title] [track] [year] [genre], and i get:

---------------------------
mareo.exe - Application Error
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The exception unknown software exception (0x0eedfade) occurred in the application at location 0x7c59bc81.
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OK Cancel
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Can the hidding of the command prompt be disabled?

Also, it looks like the Dynamic Command Line Items ([infilie], etc), are case sensitive?

[Spoon]

They are case sensitive. The command prompt cannot be shown. Your command line would not work if something had a space in it (the filenames will not as short names are used), ie:

c:\temp.wav c:\a.mp3 an artist an album a title...

You need quotes around the items?

[kwanbis]

thanks spoon. Yes, the problem was when MAREO logged to thescreen (witch is a simple delphi call to write("text").

I had to modify MAREO, so i can tell it not to log to screen.

They are case sensitive.why should i pay attention to write [album], instead of [Album]?

The command prompt cannot be shown.as i said, i fixed the problem, but i rather see the command prompt running, that not knowing what is happening.

Your command line would not work if something had a space in it (the filenames will not as short names are used)... You need quotes around the items?Right, good point.

For anyone interested, here is how to setup MAREO with dbpoweramp beta: http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?s=&showtopic=44559&view=findpost&p=431475

[kwanbis]

once dbpamp estarts ripping, there is no way to cancel! I have to press ALT-F4, to do it. Also, it looks like dbpamp is not "listening" to the errorlevel of the encoder.

[LtData]

If your using "Rip to RAM", then the rip is not canceled until the current track is finished ripping.

Also, what do you mean "error level of the encoder"?

[kwanbis]

what is rip to RAM? That my encoder was returning an errolevel of 1 (0 is all ok, more than 0 is error), and it ignores, and continues to rip.

[LtData]

Rip to RAM is a PowerPack option in Audio CD Input. However, I can't seem to find if this option is in the beta right now.

Also, another reason its pausing could be that it is trying to securely rip the track and doesn't stop until it succeeds.

[Spoon]

Rip to Ram is default in the new ripper, ah progress...

Currently to cancel a rip click the rip button (again) and OK to the cancel message.

[Spoon]

>For anyone interested, here is how to setup MAREO

Looking at your screen shot you do not have Pass Wave Header checked (for the CLI Encoder), how does the encoder know what the frequency, channels etc is?

[kwanbis]

Looking at your screen shot you do not have Pass Wave Header checked (for the CLI Encoder), how does the encoder know what the frequency, channels etc is?
I don't know, but it is working .. :| ... you think i should leave it checked then?

[Spoon]

Depends on mareo.

[kwanbis]

MAREO just calls multiple encoders, for example, i have it setup to call, FLAC first, to generate song.flac, then wavegain to gain the original wav, and then, it calls LAME to create song.mp3, from the wavegained original.

[EliC]

Spoon, could you add a reporting of data from the new CD ripper to start building a db of average wav size and average number of errors in songs with errors? In reference to: This (http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?p=55432)

[Vulcan]

Any idea when log files will be implemented spoon?

[Spoon]

Going in now.

[Spoon]

dBpowerAMP Release 12 Alpha 6

A significant update for CD Ripper, mainly:

AMG meta data
Album Art
Log files (3 levels of log)
Album Artist Tag
Meta Data ID Tag section, for removing & adding specific tags
C2 ripping enhancements
Prevent AutoRun Option (a low level catch of the new CD notification, no malware will install)
New 'naming' existing users click 'set' and 'default'
Preview of audio tracks

As well as:

FLAC encoder
Album Art supportted in most codecs

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C2 enhancements include a best result from c2 if cannot match 10 frames, also it is recommended that if a drive supports c2 then the maximum re-reads should be set to around 700 (you will see impressive results with this).

[gaillard]

Hey spoon,

I havn't had a chance to test the new alpha but i noticed this

"2 enhancements include a best result from c2 if cannot match 10 frames, also it is recommended that if a drive supports c2 then the maximum re-reads should be set to around 700 (you will see impressive results with this)."

does this still report insecure if it does go for a best result?

Thanks spoon!
Jonathan

[Spoon]

Yes if it cannot verify with AccurateRip, but if the log file is set to complete then you can see when this takes place.

[Vulcan]

incredible work spoon!

Two quick questions...
no cue sheets yet? [are you going to follow the standard set by EAC's 'noncompliant'?]

Album Art... Could you allow it to be saved in output folder as a jpg, instead of in the tags of the file?

[Spoon]

Cue sheets will appear when we tackle the image rip, havn't really looked into it. What are the pros and cons of non-compliant?

Album art will be as you ask.

[Paul_B]

Looks really good Spoon. Is it possible to include some the extended AMG data such as review, styles and moods?

[Spoon]

I found it hard to put those fields into various tag fields (review is not an option for us), we do have Styles, could not see moods.

[TheNewZackMorri]

Hey man. This program is looking to be pretty awesome. I've been testing it out for a bit and love it. I just have one problem. I've been encoding files to WavPack files, but cannot get the file extension to work. It always makes the files .ext files, and then I have to change it to .wv. I am using the command line you posted, so I must be doing something stupid. :p Thanks for any help.

[LtData]

Something interesting:
On my computer, cache and FUA support take a very long amount of time:
Cache detection:
Test Time without re-read: 125312ms (or 2 minutes)
Test Time with re-read: 250875ms (or ~4 minutes)

FUA Support:
Test Time without FUA: 50109ms (or ~1 minute)
Test Time with FUA: 86594ms (or ~1.5 minutes)

My drive is the Lite-On SOHW-1693S DVD+-RW burner.
On my Laptop, with a QSI SBW-242 (CD-RW, DVD-ROM combo drive), it was very quick.

Significant? I don't think so, but you want to make a note that it may take a few minutes on some machines.

System specs:
Windows XP (testing done in x64)
AMD Athlon X2 4200+
1GB RAM

Edit: Wow, love the new interface and the multi-processor support, at least in Ogg Vorbis. Two thumbs WAYYY up :thumbup: :thumbup:.

[Paul_B]

Spoon,

Thanks for the reply. Why is review not an option? Could this not go into the comments field? This is how I am currently doing using MP3Tag

[Spoon]

@TheNewZackMorri

> It always makes the files .ext files,

Have a look at hte help file for the CLI Encoder, there is a file you need to edit (saying that dBpowerAMPs Wavpack encoder will be finished in a few days).

@Ltdata

Try a different CD please and see what times that gives.

@Paul_B

It was more expensive and did not seem worth it.

[Paul_B]

Thanks Spoon

[LtData]

Trying with different 2 CDs:
FUA Support: (average of 2 CDs)
w/o FUA: 49253ms
w/ FUA: 49843ms

Drive Read Cache: (average of 2 CDs)
w/o re-read: 122907ms
w/ re-read: 245668

[bhoar]

Cue sheets will appear when we tackle the image rip, havn't really looked into it. What are the pros and cons of non-compliant?

The summary version is:

Con: Compliant cue sheets can be read by nearly all applications that use cue sheet files. Non-compliant cue sheets generally can only be read properly by the application that created them.

Pro: From what I understand, and I might be wrong: non-compliant cue sheets may be necessary for creation of bit-for-bit duplicates of ripped CD images when stored as multiple WAV files. Refer to the AutoFLAC thread on the HA forums for more info, specifically nitro322's post here (note that this was when his app always wrote out separate tracks, before he added support for a single image file): http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=45496&st=50&p=427411&#entry427411

More info (from an EAC perspective) here: http://wiki.hydrogenaudio.org/index.php?title=EAC_CUE_Sheets

-brendan

[mcouture]

I was wondering if the Alpha has the ability to do bulk conversions yet.

I am in need to convert my collection of 1,300 albums from FLAC to .mp3.

I noticed the Alpha supports multi-threading, so I blindly installed it and now I no longer "see" the option to pick directories and do a "mass convert".

Am I missing something or do I have to go back to the production release?

-Mike

[LtData]

From the download thread:File Selector: Not ImplementedSo no, it is not supported yet. In fact, there isn't a FLAC codec for dMC r12 yet. You would be better off going back to dMC r11.5.

[Bill41]

From the download thread:So no, it is not supported yet. In fact, there isn't a FLAC codec for dMC r12 yet. You would be better off going back to dMC r11.5.

LtData - You had better check again, because I believe there is a flak codec for r12. ;)

[LtData]

Hmm, must've overlooked that in the last update. Oh well.

The rest of my statement does stand, though: if you want to convert multiple directories, you will have to go back to dMC r11.5

[EliC]

alpha 6 is consistently crashing for me when it goes into secure ripping mode. I wish I could give more details but its taking my whole system with it...

WinXP Pro SP1
Athlon 2500+
1gig DDR
Plextor PX-W5224A

[LtData]

What settings do you have set for Secure mode?
I.E. Did you check FUA Support, C2, etc?
Do you have AccurateRip configured?
What formats are you converting to?

[EliC]

What settings do you have set for Secure mode? Standard
I.E. Did you check FUA Support, C2, etc? Yes, Yes
Do you have AccurateRip configured? Yes
What formats are you converting to? FLAC

[Spoon]

No user mode program (which CD Ripper is) should be able to take the entire system with it, even if I tried to write such a program I could not. The issue will lay in buggy drivers, somewhere.

[EliC]

No user mode program (which CD Ripper is) should be able to take the entire system with it, even if I tried to write such a program I could not. The issue will lay in buggy drivers, somewhere.

Any idea what drivers I could look into? Its clearly related to CD ripping. I have had eac bring my system down frequently. I tried the rip in the same system with my Plextor PX-712SA and secure rip was actually able to rip the track

BTW, for communication setting I have been using SPT w/ dMC.

[LtData]

Try this:Check your DMA settings for the disc drive. Go to Control Panel --> System --> Hardware --> Device Manager. Once there, click "IDE/ATAPI Controllers" and double-click on the one named something like "Secondary Channel" or, if there is just one choice, double-click on it. Go to normally the second or third tab, and make sure your drive is set to "DMA if available" and NOT "PIO Only".

If you cannot set it to DMA, AND the secondary channel is a separate choice, close the properties window, right-click on the secondary channel, and click "uninstall". Click OK on the window, then click Action --> Scan for hardware changes. It should detect the secondary channel, if it does not restart. Make sure the drive is now set to DMA mode.

If this happened, why? Well, WinXP has a "feature" that sets drives to PIO mode if there are a lot of read errors. This results in CPU usage whenever you try to use your CD drive, and I mean HIGH CPU usage. It also makes any audio sound like absolute crap if it is played while the CD drive is in use in any form. You can still rip fine, just not rip and play audio of any sort, even speech software like Ventrilo or Skype sounds horrible.

[EliC]

Any chance of making the CD case arround the album art optional?

Also, there are 2 places for selecting drive and they are not consistent. There is a starting dialog and the menu in the left lower corner. I suggest getting rid of both of these and having drive tabs. These could be along the top or on the left and bring up the whole menu for each different drive in the system and allow for multiple ripping sessions at a time.

Also, it would be nice if the log was written in real-time, so if there is a crash or something the tracks dont need to be re-ripped.

Thanks. Its really coming along VERY nice. Ive been playing with one disc, 9 tracks. EAC was only able to rip 1-3 at all, had read errors on 4-9. dMC ripped 1-7 with AR verification confidence 7 without breaking a sweat. Track 8 crash my system multiple time in my PX-W5224, but was able to be accurately ripped in my PX-712SA. Track 9 is proving difficult or immpossible to rip. But it seems to be performing nicely as a test disc.

[EliC]

Lt. Data,
Thanks. I could swear that in the past I had confirmed all my drives where set to DMA. Now when I go tomy device manager I dont actually have either a primary or secondary IDE.

That being said, my 5224A is connected via a Promise ATA133 controller card and I cant find where the DMA settings would be.

[LtData]

It should still be under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Also, on some systems, there is not a primary and secondary IDE, just one entry that controls all 4 devices on both the primary and secondary IDE.

As it says above, XP can switch the drives to PIO if a lot of disc read errors are encountered.

Edit: See here for some more information: http://www.overclockers.com/tips839/

[Spoon]

>and allow for multiple ripping sessions at a time.

We plan on eventually doing another program which sits above multiple cd rippers, like a master controller, with eventual support for automated ripping as well.

[EliC]

It should still be under IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers. Also, on some systems, there is not a primary and secondary IDE, just one entry that controls all 4 devices on both the primary and secondary IDE.

As it says above, XP can switch the drives to PIO if a lot of disc read errors are encountered.

Edit: See here for some more information: http://www.overclockers.com/tips839/

I know this is really getting a bit off topic but Im trying to find out if this is a bug w/ dMC or just my setup. There are NO settings in IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers for DMA. What I do have under my resources tap of my nVidea nForce IDE controller is a change settings button that is greyed out, so I cant use it.

[LtData]

But it should still show what transfer method they are using, IIRC.

[gaillard]

c2 detection works wonderfully now Spoon.

As does the ripping itself, quite remarkable...

Thanks !

Jonathan

[horrorbiz]

:thumbup: After reading all the buzz about dMC R12, I am thinking of switching from EAC to finish archiving my (huge) CD collection in FLAC format.

Just one question I had...


Album Art... Could you allow it to be saved in output folder as a jpg, instead of in the tags of the file?


Album art will be as you ask.

Is this true for the current alpha version?

[bhoar]

That being said, my 5224A is connected via a Promise ATA133 controller card and I cant find where the DMA settings would be.

Would it be possible to try the drive connected to one of the mainboard ATA connectors instead? I've seen too many weird things happen with drives connected to the Promise ATA100 and ATA133 controllers in the past.

-brendan

[Spoon]

Folder.jpg will be in the next alpha (few days to a week).

[gaillard]

how about a like of jpegs or png's for album art. I know i scan all by books and such into like folder1.png, folder2.png etc...

great work spoon.

oh is there going to be a native wavpack encoder so we can keep track of cd TOC or always the CLI?

thanks!

[LtData]

There is a WavPack encoder for dMC r12 now.

[LtData]

Question for Spoon: What does "dBpowerAMP Reference" mean? I see it regarding dMC r12, but not what it means. Does it refer to the core converter part of dMC?

[Spoon]

It is a new version, mainly aimed at businesses or the audio enthusiast.

[Bill41]

>Fix mp3 decoder for corrupted freeformat files (was loosing sync and never picking it up again)<

Spoon,
Looks like you finally solved this problem in r12a7. :thumbup:
Thanks
Bill

[MaDxCrEaM]

Just curious, I tried to browse through and read everything, if anyone has suggested about being able to rip to multiple formats at the same time instead of having to use something like mareo to do this.

Something like set up profiles for flac and mp3, choose rip folders and settings, then you are able to select both to rip too.

Hope you understand.

I did see someone already asked about being able to create cue sheets also. This is still going to happen?

[heavensblade23]

Can you some different options for tag formatting? At the very least I would like to see the capitalize tags option that EAC has added. Even better word be to add options like "Capitalize All" "Capitalize None" and "Capitalize First Word".

[LtData]

If the "Multi-Encoder" is ported over, it will do this. However, I do not know if this is planned or not.

Yes, cue sheets are still going to happen, just haven't been implemented yet.

[flinchlock]

I am testing dMC-r12-alpha7.exe, and it is confused about my BenQ DW1655 DVD ReWriter while doing
"Configuring Secure Ripper > Drive Read Cache > Detect".

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/MyPix4eBay/dBpowerAMP/1-neroinfo.png

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/MyPix4eBay/dBpowerAMP/2-cdripper.png

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/MyPix4eBay/dBpowerAMP/3-nocache.png

2 MB does not equal "no cache".

The very first time I tried to detect, I swore it said something like: "Yes, 15188 = 15188. Now I'll try to determine the cache size."

But, now, evertime I try, it always says NO-CACHE.

Mike

P.S. GREAT product!! :D

[LtData]

Note that the 2MB is referred to as a "buffer" not cache. Here's what wikipedia says:The difference between buffers and cache

The terms are not mutually exclusive, and the functions are frequently combined, but there is a difference in intent. A buffer is a temporary storage location where a large block of data is assembled or disassembled. This may be necessary for interacting with a storage device that requires large blocks of data, or when data must be delivered in a different order than that in which it is produced, or merely desirable when small blocks are inefficient. The benefit is present even if the bufferend data is written to the buffer once and read from the buffer once.

A cache, on the other hand, hopes that the data will be read from the cache more often than it is written there. Its purpose is to eliminate accesses to the underlying storage, rather than make them more efficient.

[flinchlock]

Note that the 2MB is referred to as a "buffer" not cache. Here's what wikipedia says:Well, it never crossed my mind there was a difference. Good thing you (the experts) do!

Update: I am testing dMC-r12-alpha7.exe, and I AM confused about my BenQ DW1655 DVD ReWriter while doing "Configuring Secure Ripper > Drive Read Cache > Detect". :o :o

Mike

[Spoon]

Cue sheets yes, a little while yet.

Multi encoder will be ported over (it is easier to implement with r12 as everything is cli based).

>Can you some different options for tag formatting?

Using AMG as the data source (which is professionally vetted) this should not be required, unless I am mistaken?

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About the cache detection, make sure the cd is pristine without scratches and no other program is running (even media players).

[LtData]

If I'm reading it correctly, a buffer is used to hold data that is being read. Cache is used to reduce accesses to the CD drive.

[Spies]

Spoon, the AMG meta data is awesome! Since the data is so complete I would love to see a user selectable option to combine those tags that have multiple entries per song, such as artist and composer, into one tag with a delimiter, such as a semicolon.
Using a FLAC file as an example:
Composer=Rick Davies
Composer=Roger Hodgson
Becomes:
Composer=Rick Davies; Roger Hodgson
Would love to see Styles as a meta data option too. The more data data from AMG the better. I also see that FLAC 1.1.3 will have support for cover art. The beta is out now. Hopefully you will be able to integrate it soon. Looking forward to Replay Gain tag support as well. And while I am thinking about it will your "dBpowerAMP Reference" edition be able to handle changers such as the Sony VGP-XL1B2 changer (http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=VGPXL1B2&Dept=computers&CategoryName=cpu_DigitalLivingSystem)? That would be awesome! Can hardly wait to see what the next Alpha brings.

[Spoon]

Composer=Rick Davies
Composer=Roger Hodgson
Becomes:
Composer=Rick Davies; Roger Hodgson

FLAC uses Ogg tags, the two seperate composers are correct for Ogg Tags, it is upto the audio player to recombine them.

Flac album art should be relatively soon (the current beta has no means ot manipulate the art data).

[gaillard]

hey spoon, with the wavpack encoder, is there a way to use the -x option for asymetrical encoding?

[Vulcan]

Spoon, I am having trouble with alpha 7 in secure mode.

Upon trying to rip any track, I get an error lik the the following:

Error ripping to Test Conversion, 'Track 3' to 'E:\My Music\FLAC\Kara's Flowers\Fourth World (1997)\03 Myself.IGNORE'
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 33306) [clRipperSecure::Rip]

I did uninstall the previous alpha and 11.5 before installing, and this is the first time I have encountered such a problem. Please feel free to email me if you need any more information.

[LtData]

Can you rip when in Burst mode?

[gaillard]

Spoon, I am having trouble with alpha 7 in secure mode.

Upon trying to rip any track, I get an error lik the the following:

Error ripping to Test Conversion, 'Track 3' to 'E:\My Music\FLAC\Kara's Flowers\Fourth World (1997)\03 Myself.IGNORE'
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 33306) [clRipperSecure::Rip]

I did uninstall the previous alpha and 11.5 before installing, and this is the first time I have encountered such a problem. Please feel free to email me if you need any more information.

Thats how errors that it cannot read through are reported i beleive. There is a bad error on that cd. plus if you have that new option checked all errors look like that (yay! =))

[gaillard]

guess i'll just have to keep using the cli encoder for -x option, any plans for this in the future?

[Spoon]

>-x option for asymetrical encoding?

Is it popular?

>Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 33306) [clRipperSecure::Rip]

This error means the CD drive is unable to return any data for that track, technically it is a failure of the drive, as normlly even rubbish data is always returened. After this (I have seen it on one of my drives) Windows will normally put the drive into PIO mode, there should also be an error written into the Windows Event Viewer.

[gaillard]

I would hope its popular since david is putting it into the next version as default, although not the highest -x mod but still putting -x as default. with no decoding time reduction people would be foolish not to use it.

Also i was wondering if you wouldn't mind making it where for the cli encoder, if we can still pass things from the artist, date box to the cli line without them automatically being added to the meta data. Because the meta data i am using for things like accuraterip results and source and encoded by but still want to pass my own things to the cli line, is this possible? thanks spoon. Its looking really good.

[bhoar]

>-x option for asymetrical encoding?

Is it popular?

>Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 33306) [clRipperSecure::Rip]

This error means the CD drive is unable to return any data for that track, technically it is a failure of the drive, as normlly even rubbish data is always returened. After this (I have seen it on one of my drives) Windows will normally put the drive into PIO mode, there should also be an error written into the Windows Event Viewer.

I assume SCSI drives are immune from the UDMA->PIO symptom?

Also, "CD disc" is about 1/3 redundant. :)

-brendan

[gaillard]

>
>Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 33306) [clRipperSecure::Rip]

This error means the CD drive is unable to return any data for that track, technically it is a failure of the drive, as normlly even rubbish data is always returened. After this (I have seen it on one of my drives) Windows will normally put the drive into PIO mode, there should also be an error written into the Windows Event Viewer.

This is interesting to me spoon because for example, if i put a big fat finger print on a disc, accurateRip always comes back with cannot read cd, not garbage data. But everything is ok with me as long as all errors are reported, i just want to know that there are no errors in the music.

[Spoon]

>david is putting it into the next version as default

I will be moving over to the new version soon, so that will self sort it's self.

>I assume SCSI drives are immune from the UDMA->PIO symptom?

Yes I would think so.

>if i put a big fat finger print on a disc, accurateRip always comes back with cannot read cd, not garbage data

The previously mentioned error is a very specific one, and has nothing to do with normal cd ripping (if you see that error it would fall under the error tab, not information).

[Vulcan]

Can you rip when in Burst mode?
Yes. Burst mode works perfectly.

[gaillard]

>david is putting it into the next version as default

I will be moving over to the new version soon, so that will self sort it's self.

>I assume SCSI drives are immune from the UDMA->PIO symptom?

Yes I would think so.

>if i put a big fat finger print on a disc, accurateRip always comes back with cannot read cd, not garbage data

The previously mentioned error is a very specific one, and has nothing to do with normal cd ripping (if you see that error it would fall under the error tab, not information).

Most erros i get do fall under the error tab, such as a fingerprint. Many many times this has happened.

[gaillard]

Hmm i seem to be having trouble ripping an cd that says on the back that it doesn't adhear to cd specs and it is "enhanced stereo" this is Stand Up by Dave Matthews. It says its in accurateRip but on everytrack it rips and then rips utra 1 and then says it has to do about 17000 re rip bad frames. Isn't that like the whole track?? hmm that would take forever.

[LtData]

Its a copy-protected CD, hence the "doesn't ahear to CD specs". IIRC, they purposefully put in bad audio data that a computer copies but most CD players ignore. My advice? Return the CD to the store and tell them you can't copy it to your iPod/computer and want your money back.

[gaillard]

Theres no way to get R12 to rip this thing?????


when i tried burst it said accuraterip inaccurate (21!!) hm

and it rips with eac... wierd.

[LtData]

The problem is that the data on the CD itself is purposefuly wrong. Try listening to your EAC rips, do they sound OK?

[gaillard]

Actually ya they sound great. I mean the cd is scratch free perfect. I beleive you, but isn't that odd?

[LtData]

Welcome to the new century, where the record companies try to tell you what you can do with their music. Want that copy-protected CD on your portable? It better support either WMA protected or iTunes. Oh, and you'll probably havta buy it again. :vmad: </rant>

[gaillard]

I'll get around it. grrrrrrrrrr

[gaillard]

MUAHHAHA i got it. Ok with this cd the errors they put in it must only be caught by c2 and or only repeat but so many times because i put it on secure with no ultra and 16 max re rips of bad frames and i got an accurate rip result on those options ONLY, i tried every other one. And it did re rip 11 frames and got 10 to match. So if this cd had been scratched and i would have had to use c2 i would be screwed. Damn them, its a great recording to which is the sad part.

[LtData]

Hmm, very interesting. I'll make a note of this for future reference.

[gaillard]

well i am slowly getting track by track with various options to rip with accurateRip, unfortunately the behinning of the disc and end want to rerip soooo many times. heres a track i had no ultra passes but 8 re rips on, and c2 and heres the info.

Information ripping to CLI Encoder, 'Track 8' to 'E:\Documents and Settings\Jonathan Gaillard\Desktop\Stand Up {Dave Matthews Band}\08. Out of My Hands.wv'
Track 8: Ripped LBA 119136 to 135756 (3:41) in 2:27. Filename: E:\Documents and Settings\Jonathan Gaillard\Desktop\Stand Up {Dave Matthews Band}\08. Out of My Hands.wv
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 25) [Pass 1, Re-Rip 358 Frames]
CRC32: 0E630EC8
Re-rip Frame: 119137 (00:00:00.013). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119138 (00:00:00.026). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119154 (00:00:00.240). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119251 (00:00:01.533). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119321 (00:00:02.466). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119366 (00:00:03.066). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119426 (00:00:03.866). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119586 (00:00:06.000). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119614 (00:00:06.373). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119615 (00:00:06.386). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119675 (00:00:07.186). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119772 (00:00:08.480). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119773 (00:00:08.493). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119816 (00:00:09.066). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119820 (00:00:09.120). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 119851 (00:00:09.533). Insecure [c2 best match]
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Re-rip Frame: 120207 (00:00:14.280). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120368 (00:00:16.426). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120428 (00:00:17.226). Insecure (c2 dropped 7) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120518 (00:00:18.426). Insecure (c2 dropped 8) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120535 (00:00:18.653). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120561 (00:00:19.000). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120579 (00:00:19.240). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120619 (00:00:19.773). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120638 (00:00:20.026). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120710 (00:00:20.986). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120769 (00:00:21.773). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
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Re-rip Frame: 120778 (00:00:21.893). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120789 (00:00:22.040). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120790 (00:00:22.053). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120798 (00:00:22.160). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120799 (00:00:22.173). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120804 (00:00:22.240). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120805 (00:00:22.253). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120809 (00:00:22.306). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120812 (00:00:22.346). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120813 (00:00:22.360). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120822 (00:00:22.480). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120827 (00:00:22.546). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120833 (00:00:22.626). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120842 (00:00:22.746). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120850 (00:00:22.853). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120871 (00:00:23.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120885 (00:00:23.320). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120886 (00:00:23.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120906 (00:00:23.600). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120909 (00:00:23.640). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120912 (00:00:23.680). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120915 (00:00:23.720). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120920 (00:00:23.786). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120929 (00:00:23.906). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120944 (00:00:24.106). Insecure (c2 dropped 9) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120945 (00:00:24.120). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120973 (00:00:24.493). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120974 (00:00:24.506). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120987 (00:00:24.680). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 120988 (00:00:24.693). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121002 (00:00:24.880). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121016 (00:00:25.066). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121025 (00:00:25.186). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121026 (00:00:25.200). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121031 (00:00:25.266). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121032 (00:00:25.280). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121040 (00:00:25.386). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121042 (00:00:25.413). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121046 (00:00:25.466). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121052 (00:00:25.546). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121060 (00:00:25.653). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121061 (00:00:25.666). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121068 (00:00:25.760). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121069 (00:00:25.773). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121075 (00:00:25.853). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121089 (00:00:26.040). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121090 (00:00:26.053). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121104 (00:00:26.240). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121112 (00:00:26.346). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121133 (00:00:26.626). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121134 (00:00:26.640). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121162 (00:00:27.013). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121163 (00:00:27.026). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121168 (00:00:27.093). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121176 (00:00:27.200). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121177 (00:00:27.213). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121178 (00:00:27.226). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121197 (00:00:27.480). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121212 (00:00:27.680). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121220 (00:00:27.786). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121221 (00:00:27.800). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121235 (00:00:27.986). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121241 (00:00:28.066). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121249 (00:00:28.173). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121250 (00:00:28.186). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121263 (00:00:28.360). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121264 (00:00:28.373). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121265 (00:00:28.386). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121289 (00:00:28.706). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121290 (00:00:28.720). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121293 (00:00:28.760). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121294 (00:00:28.773). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121317 (00:00:29.080). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121323 (00:00:29.160). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121348 (00:00:29.493). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121351 (00:00:29.533). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121352 (00:00:29.546). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121366 (00:00:29.733). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121367 (00:00:29.746). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121372 (00:00:29.813). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121381 (00:00:29.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121386 (00:00:30.000). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121392 (00:00:30.080). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121394 (00:00:30.106). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121439 (00:00:30.706). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121446 (00:00:30.800). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121462 (00:00:31.013). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121468 (00:00:31.093). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121469 (00:00:31.106). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121475 (00:00:31.186). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121476 (00:00:31.200). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121482 (00:00:31.280). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121483 (00:00:31.293). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121497 (00:00:31.480). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121498 (00:00:31.493). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121513 (00:00:31.693). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121520 (00:00:31.786). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121525 (00:00:31.853). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121541 (00:00:32.066). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121556 (00:00:32.266). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121592 (00:00:32.746). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121614 (00:00:33.040). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121643 (00:00:33.426). Insecure (c2 dropped 7) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121672 (00:00:33.813). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121673 (00:00:33.826). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121678 (00:00:33.893). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121687 (00:00:34.013). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121702 (00:00:34.213). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121727 (00:00:34.546). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121737 (00:00:34.680). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121746 (00:00:34.800). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121754 (00:00:34.906). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121811 (00:00:35.666). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121812 (00:00:35.680). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121829 (00:00:35.906). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121855 (00:00:36.253). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121857 (00:00:36.280). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121858 (00:00:36.293). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121885 (00:00:36.653). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121886 (00:00:36.666). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121900 (00:00:36.853). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121901 (00:00:36.866). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121902 (00:00:36.880). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121906 (00:00:36.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121926 (00:00:37.200). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121928 (00:00:37.226). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121929 (00:00:37.240). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121935 (00:00:37.320). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121943 (00:00:37.426). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121944 (00:00:37.440). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121950 (00:00:37.520). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121958 (00:00:37.626). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121959 (00:00:37.640). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121964 (00:00:37.706). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121976 (00:00:37.866). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 121987 (00:00:38.013). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
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Re-rip Frame: 122005 (00:00:38.253). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122008 (00:00:38.293). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122032 (00:00:38.613). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122074 (00:00:39.173). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122076 (00:00:39.200). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122118 (00:00:39.760). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122134 (00:00:39.973). Insecure [c2 best match]
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Re-rip Frame: 122183 (00:00:40.626). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122193 (00:00:40.760). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122221 (00:00:41.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122223 (00:00:41.160). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122235 (00:00:41.320). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122242 (00:00:41.413). Insecure [c2 best match]
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Re-rip Frame: 122262 (00:00:41.680). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
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Re-rip Frame: 122282 (00:00:41.946). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122295 (00:00:42.120). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122300 (00:00:42.186). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122301 (00:00:42.200). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122308 (00:00:42.293). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122310 (00:00:42.320). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122311 (00:00:42.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122315 (00:00:42.386). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122337 (00:00:42.680). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122353 (00:00:42.893). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122359 (00:00:42.973). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122427 (00:00:43.880). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122647 (00:00:46.813). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122849 (00:00:49.506). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122893 (00:00:50.093). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122922 (00:00:50.480). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 122923 (00:00:50.493). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 123027 (00:00:51.880). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 123294 (00:00:55.440). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 123359 (00:00:56.306). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 123437 (00:00:57.346). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 124083 (00:01:05.960). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 124242 (00:01:08.080). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 124271 (00:01:08.466). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 124421 (00:01:10.466). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 124422 (00:01:10.480). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 124774 (00:01:15.173). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 124890 (00:01:16.720). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 124891 (00:01:16.733). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125333 (00:01:22.626). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125785 (00:01:28.653). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125816 (00:01:29.066). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125935 (00:01:30.653). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125936 (00:01:30.666). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125938 (00:01:30.693). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125949 (00:01:30.840). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125950 (00:01:30.853). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125962 (00:01:31.013). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125963 (00:01:31.026). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125980 (00:01:31.253). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125982 (00:01:31.280). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 125984 (00:01:31.306). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126000 (00:01:31.520). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126008 (00:01:31.626). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126009 (00:01:31.640). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126011 (00:01:31.666). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126039 (00:01:32.040). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126113 (00:01:33.026). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126141 (00:01:33.400). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126201 (00:01:34.200). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126213 (00:01:34.360). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126276 (00:01:35.200). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126302 (00:01:35.546). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126322 (00:01:35.813). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126337 (00:01:36.013). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126396 (00:01:36.800). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126423 (00:01:37.160). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126483 (00:01:37.960). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126511 (00:01:38.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126524 (00:01:38.506). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126525 (00:01:38.520). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126543 (00:01:38.760). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126614 (00:01:39.706). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126615 (00:01:39.720). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126617 (00:01:39.746). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126632 (00:01:39.946). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 126850 (00:01:42.853). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 127353 (00:01:49.560). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 127354 (00:01:49.573). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 127398 (00:01:50.160). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 127563 (00:01:52.360). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 127856 (00:01:56.266). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 128110 (00:01:59.653). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 128114 (00:01:59.706). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 131327 (00:02:42.546). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 131446 (00:02:44.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 131461 (00:02:44.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 131479 (00:02:44.573). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 131566 (00:02:45.733). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 131869 (00:02:49.773). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132046 (00:02:52.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132121 (00:02:53.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132180 (00:02:53.920). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132181 (00:02:53.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 8) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132211 (00:02:54.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132216 (00:02:54.400). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132226 (00:02:54.533). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132241 (00:02:54.733). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132256 (00:02:54.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132271 (00:02:55.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132285 (00:02:55.320). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132286 (00:02:55.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132316 (00:02:55.733). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132331 (00:02:55.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132345 (00:02:56.120). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132346 (00:02:56.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132360 (00:02:56.320). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132361 (00:02:56.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132376 (00:02:56.533). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132391 (00:02:56.733). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132411 (00:02:57.000). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132412 (00:02:57.013). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132420 (00:02:57.120). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132421 (00:02:57.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132451 (00:02:57.533). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132471 (00:02:57.800). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132479 (00:02:57.906). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132481 (00:02:57.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132496 (00:02:58.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132511 (00:02:58.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132541 (00:02:58.733). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132556 (00:02:58.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132571 (00:02:59.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132586 (00:02:59.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 6) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132619 (00:02:59.773). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132630 (00:02:59.920). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132631 (00:02:59.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132646 (00:03:00.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132689 (00:03:00.706). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132690 (00:03:00.720). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132691 (00:03:00.733). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132706 (00:03:00.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132712 (00:03:01.013). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132721 (00:03:01.133). Insecure (c2 dropped 4) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132751 (00:03:01.533). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132781 (00:03:01.933). Insecure (c2 dropped 1) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132796 (00:03:02.133). Insecure [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132811 (00:03:02.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132826 (00:03:02.533). Insecure (c2 dropped 2) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132827 (00:03:02.546). Insecure (c2 dropped 5) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132841 (00:03:02.733). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132872 (00:03:03.146). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
Re-rip Frame: 132886 (00:03:03.333). Insecure (c2 dropped 3) [c2 best match]
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