ReplayGain Tag

[timster67]

Could you tell me what IDTag Replay Gain Uses? I've been offline for a while and on return I've update mp3Tag but it is no longer showing the tag value. I assumed it was an extended IDv3 tag "REPLAYGAIN" but it isn't listed, and if I try manually inputting REPLAYGAIN that doesn't work either.
Thanks in advance.

[simbun]

Re: ReplayGain Tag

TagInspector within MusicBee is great for MP3s as it shows you the underlying tag code.

[timster67]

Re: ReplayGain Tag

That link goes nowhere but I'' try and find MusicBee. mp3Tag is fine, all I want to know is the tag ID

[simbun]

Re: ReplayGain Tag

That link goes nowhere but I'' try and find MusicBee. mp3Tag is fine, all I want to know is the tag ID

It looks like the forum software replaces the hashtag with an asterix, which breaks a lot of links.

I didn't intend for you to have to install MusicBee, that was a recommendation so you can help yourself in future, your answer was in the image that was attached to the post.

TXXX/REPLAYGAIN_[ALBUM|TRACK]_[GAIN|PEAK]

[timster67]

Re: ReplayGain Tag

So it was. Thanks very much, all good now. I forgot the underscores!

[Hitarth]

Re: ReplayGain Tag

hi,
has any one tried to rip, withouth ReplayGain alltogether ?

[simbun]

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I'd imagine most people do (I add it in a subsequent step). Why?

[timster67]

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Of course. I originally ripped all my CDs without it. It was only after I knew about the tag I re-tagged everything. Now I tag it when ripping.

[Hitarth]

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well, i did rip with the iTunes setting & on some trucks i found clipping on some piano &/or honky tonk guitars ..like instruments
then i ripped the same CD w/o the ReplayGain & it seemed to be undercontrol.
i then ripped all my CDs w/o the ReplayGain & found many tracks better sounding ... also with this setting i removed the ultra secure setting completely ( sorry if not in this topic )

[simbun]

Re: ReplayGain Tag

You don't need to re-rip your CDs, you can just remove the replaygain tags.
The ultra secure setting will have nothing to do with this.

I don't know enough about this in dBpoweramp to comment really. I use foobar with True Peak scanning and 4 times oversampling, and also generally only use replaygain when I'm shuffling music not for album playback (although album is calculated).

Hopefully someone more knowledgeable than me can help.

[timster67]

Re: ReplayGain Tag

As long as you don't use the Apply version it shouldn't matter. It doesn't alter the audio data.

[garym]

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well, i did rip with the iTunes setting & on some trucks i found clipping on some piano &/or honky tonk guitars ..like instruments
then i ripped the same CD w/o the ReplayGain & it seemed to be undercontrol.
i then ripped all my CDs w/o the ReplayGain & found many tracks better sounding ... also with this setting i removed the ultra secure setting completely ( sorry if not in this topic )

With respect, none of these comments make any sense. ReplayGain is simply a tag, no different from GENRE or ARTIST. It only matters to playback audio if the PLAYER uses the ReplayGain tag to adjust the volume. iTunes does not use the ReplayGain tag. It has a similar tag called SOUNDCHECK, but that is also just a tag and players can be told to use it or not. The ultrasecure setting has nothing whatsoever to do with ReplayGain. It has to do with getting SECURE or AccurateRip confirmed bit perfect rips of a CD.

ReplayGain tags typically help PREVENT clipping rather than cause clipping. But again, one can simply tell the player to NOT use the ReplayGain tags. You don't need to rerip. Or if you really don't want the RG tags, simply edit the metadata in a batch manner and remove the 4 RG tags (track, album, track peak, album peak).

[simbun]

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If we assume that the OP knows what they're doing, what they're asking is if applying (during playback) replaygain (known as iTunes normalization in dBpoweramp) can introduce clipping, which it obviously can, more so with certain types of material.

I know there are various ways to mitigate the resulting clipping e.g. pre-amp/using the calculated peaks e.t.c. but I know nothing about dBpoweramps 'Clip-Prevention' or if iDevices do any of this.

In terms of "better sounding", apart from the potential clipping you're probably just hearing the volume difference.

[garym]

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In terms of "better sounding", apart from the potential clipping you're probably just hearing the volume difference.

Good point. Playing with NO replaygain will typically increase volume relative to playing *with* RG engaged (as most ReplayGain adjustments are negative, at least this is true on my ~130,000 tracks). And as is well known, even slightly imperceptible volume increases cause listeners to report the louder version as sounding "better" in double-blind tests.

[Hitarth]

Re: ReplayGain Tag

thanks very muck & appolgies for the delay in reply