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Requirements of R 128 are not always met when applying replaygain while converting

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  • Uli Nobbe
    • Apr 2020
    • 1

    Requirements of R 128 are not always met when applying replaygain while converting

    Hello, maybe it's a general behavior determined by the algorithm, but I found it in the Batch Converter.

    I wanted to convert FLAC to mp3 using "apply replaygain" as a test. Seems that this is hardcoded to -18 LUFS, when I understand the Changelog correctly. So I didn't change any of the values there.

    Well, the results are good (most at -17,9 LUFS, but this is within he specification). However, some files were measured with a maximum True Peak above -1 dBfs. This violates the R 128 specification.
    This happens especially using good mastered tracks from the 1980s or earlier.

    Would you please check if the algorithm follows the -1 dB True Peak max determination?
    Actually it seems that the converter tries to achieve -18 LUFS without watching other values.

    For example, if there is a track applied to
    -17,9 LUFS at -0,1 dB True Peak
    ... it should be reduced to ...
    -18,8 LUFS at -1,0 dB True Peak
    (minus 0,9 dB on the applied loudness of this track).

    I think there is a bug in the algorithm, maybe it's general wherever this calculation is used in dBpoweramp.

    Thank you
  • PeterP
    Super Moderator
    • Jul 2011
    • 1365

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    Re: Requirements of R 128 are not always met when applying replaygain while convertin

    Thanks for the bug report.

    I can confirm your observations, -1 dBfs true peak limiting isn't being applied, only 0 dBfs limiting without true peak.

    We're addressing this for the next update.

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