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quantize 16-bit PNG or TIFF to 10-bit, 12-bit, or 14-bit PNG to save space on an IS?
I had an idea the other day&*8230;
So, let's say we have all these 16-bit TIFFs for an Image / Frame Sequence, but we know that this is the final master, color grading is done, and so anything over 10, 12, or 14 bits will be a waste of space, right? So why not have an option to quantize those final 16-bit-per channel (48-bit RGB) mastered images to 10-bit (30-bit RGB, 1024 levels per channel), 12-bit (36-bit RGB, 4096 levels per channel), or 14-bit (42-bit RGB, 16384&*8236; levels per channel) before converting to 16-bit PNG? That way the color quantize is already done, we get to store a lossless backup in the smallest space possible since PNG will only store the actual bit depth in a 16-bit PNG image (or at least from my tests in Photoshop that is indeed what seems to happen), and when newer video compression schemes come out you have a lossless-but-highly-compressed source.
I used ximagic on a TIFF file from an image sequence, used kMeans quantization to 8-bit (24-bit RGB, 256 levels per channel), 10-bit (30-bit RGB, 1024 levels per channel), and 12-bit (36-bit RGB, 4096 levels per channel)
kMeans for Color Quantization: https://lmcaraig.com/color-quantization-using-k-means
Results with file size are shown below. I used LZW compression on the TIFF files and Mixed Prediction Method on the PNG files.
Per one frame
Filetype |
8-bit result (KB) |
10-bit result (KB) |
12-bit result (KB) |
16-bit result (KB) |
TIFF [1080p] |
2,533 |
3,807 |
4,556 |
10,613 |
PNG [1080p] |
2,202 |
3,002 |
3,352 |
8,166 |
TIFF [2160p] |
8,431 |
13,301 |
16,388 |
45,853 |
PNG [2160p] |
4,519 |
7,344 |
9,014 |
27,550 |
Based on size differences and current folder of Frame Sequence Images
Sequence Type |
8-bit archive (TB) |
10-bit archive (TB) |
12-bit archive (TB) |
16-bit archive (TB) |
TIFF - HD |
0.34 |
0.52 |
0.62 |
1.44 |
PNG - HD |
0.3 |
0.41 |
0.46 |
1.11 |
TIFF - HD @ 60fps |
0.86 |
1.29 |
1.55 |
3.61 |
PNG - HD @ 60fps |
0.75 |
1.02 |
1.14 |
2.78 |
TIFF - 4K |
1.15 |
1.81 |
2.23 |
6.23 |
PNG - 4K |
0.62 |
1 |
1.23 |
3.74 |
TIFF - 4K @ 60fps |
2.86 |
4.52 |
5.57 |
15.58 |
PNG - 4K @ 60fps |
1.53 |
2.5 |
3.06 |
9.36 |
Per average of the total folder size of all rendered frames. For 12-bit video you are talking cutting your archive of the original frames by 2/3
Is this a solid idea or am I way off base?
P.S. Image converter does not seem to be optimized to handle large sets of images such as these. When I clicked on the folder to select all the images, dBpoweramp Image Converter starting using the hard drive for about 5 hours before I finally ended the process and split things up into smaller batches
Last edited by Lynx_TWO; 06-26-2020 at 10:19 AM.
Reason: Edited for clarity
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