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  • Oggy
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Apr 2015
    • 697

    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
    Hi Oggy,

    OK, I will stick with what I have just edited for 'The Inner Mountain Flame', and apply it to my remaining Jazz 'THE' albums.

    Paul
    Makes sense, the album's name is, The Inner Mountain Flame.

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    • monsterjazzlick
      dBpoweramp Guru
      • Jul 2017
      • 1764

      Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

      Hi,

      I was just looking through some of my screenshots (on the previous page) and I think I may have made a mistake regarding ARTIST name (who's name includes a 'THE'). I'll check my FLACs and see if it was just a one-off, or if it runs through all of the respective taggings.

      Cheers.
      Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 02-28-2018, 08:12 PM. Reason: spelling

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      • Jailhouse
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Sep 2016
        • 388

        Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

        Originally posted by Oggy
        Makes sense, the album's name is, The Inner Mountain Flame.
        No, it isn't. You managed to rename The Inner Mounting Flame back in post No. 283.

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        • Oggy
          dBpoweramp Guru
          • Apr 2015
          • 697

          Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

          Originally posted by Jailhouse
          No, it isn't. You managed to rename The Inner Mounting Flame back in post No. 283.
          Many apologies, so I did.

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          • monsterjazzlick
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Jul 2017
            • 1764

            Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

            Hi guys,

            My suspected error is that I named the ARTIST tag for John McLaughlin's outfit as:
            ARTIST = Mahavishnu Orchestra, The

            and ALSO for:
            ARTISTSORT = Mahavishnu Orchestra, The

            And so I wanted to double-check, please, if this type should be tagged as above, OR as:
            ARTIST = The Mahavishnu Orchestra

            ARTISTSORT = Mahavishnu Orchestra, The

            Today is the first time I have used an ARTISTSORT tag.

            Much appreciated,

            Paul
            Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 02-28-2018, 10:05 PM. Reason: LINK

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            • monsterjazzlick
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Jul 2017
              • 1764

              Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

              Hi again,

              On a 'THE' related note, if the album name already has a comma, by default, then does this make any difference as to whether or not, or how you might compile, the ALBUMSORT tag, please? I am referring to the album:
              ALBUM = 'The Best Of Emerson, Lake & Palmer'

              And so, would you tag this as:
              ALBUMSORT: Best Of Emerson, Lake & Palmer, The

              Thanks very much.

              Paul
              Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 02-28-2018, 10:23 PM. Reason: LINK

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              • monsterjazzlick
                dBpoweramp Guru
                • Jul 2017
                • 1764

                Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                Originally posted by Oggy
                Makes sense, the album's name is, The Inner Mountain Flame.
                When I was in my early teens, and I did not own any Jazz records, I had only heard people mention certain key albums. I actually thought, for a long period of time, that it was called: "In A Mountain Flame"!

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                • Jailhouse
                  dBpoweramp Guru
                  • Sep 2016
                  • 388

                  Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                  Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                  When I was in my early teens, and I did not own any Jazz records, I had only heard people mention certain key albums. I actually thought, for a long period of time, that it was called: "In A Mountain Flame"!
                  Folks in some parts would pronounce the album name as "The Inna Mountin' Flame"....

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                  • Jailhouse
                    dBpoweramp Guru
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 388

                    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                    Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                    ...would you tag this as:
                    ALBUMSORT: Best Of Emerson, Lake & Palmer, The
                    I would indeed.

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                    • Jailhouse
                      dBpoweramp Guru
                      • Sep 2016
                      • 388

                      Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                      Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                      Hi guys,

                      My suspected error is that I named the ARTIST tag for John McLaughlin's outfit as:
                      ARTIST = Mahavishnu Orchestra, The

                      and ALSO for:
                      ARTISTSORT = Mahavishnu Orchestra, The

                      And so I wanted to double-check, please, if this type should be tagged as above, OR as:
                      ARTIST = The Mahavishnu Orchestra

                      ARTISTSORT = Mahavishnu Orchestra, The
                      The ARTIST tag should read the way you want it displayed; I presume that means, "The Mahavishnu Orchestra". ARTISTSORT should be the way it reads in both the above cases.
                      Last edited by Jailhouse; 03-01-2018, 12:12 AM. Reason: Horrible proofreading

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                      • Oggy
                        dBpoweramp Guru
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 697

                        Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                        Hi Paul,

                        ARTIST = The Mahavishnu Orchestra. This is the artist name, so makes most sense to use it.

                        ARTISTSORT = Mahavishnu Orchestra, The will "sort" the artist under Ms, which works for a number of people, me included.

                        ALBUMSORT is a strange one, and obviously comes down to what makes sense to you. Here are a couple of examples which show my logic. This may, or may not make sense to you!

                        ARTIST = The Beatles

                        ARTISTSORT = Beatles, The

                        ALBUM = The Beatles

                        I personally do not use ALBUMSORT, which may seem contradictory, but here is my reasoning:

                        ARTIST = Kate Bush (obviously there is a choice of using ARTISTSORT, or not).

                        ALBUM = The Kick Inside

                        In my mind, the album name is The Kick Inside, so I would expect it to fall under Ts, as I would (album name) The Beatles.

                        The library that works best for an individual, is likely to be one where we find what we want instinctively, so purely personal choice based on our own requirements.

                        In the case of The Best Of Emerson, Lake & Palmer, I would also expect this to be in Ts, following and not preceding, Brain Salad Surgery: you may well not.
                        Last edited by Oggy; 03-01-2018, 08:30 AM.

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                        • monsterjazzlick
                          dBpoweramp Guru
                          • Jul 2017
                          • 1764

                          Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                          Hi JH,

                          ...would you tag this as:

                          ALBUMSORT: Best Of Emerson, Lake & Palmer, The
                          I would indeed.
                          OK, I will go along with that, thanks.

                          Paul

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                          • monsterjazzlick
                            dBpoweramp Guru
                            • Jul 2017
                            • 1764

                            Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                            Originally posted by Jailhouse
                            Folks in some parts would pronounce the album name as "The Inna Mountin' Flame"....
                            East Anglia, UK!

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                            • monsterjazzlick
                              dBpoweramp Guru
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 1764

                              Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                              Cheers Oggy,

                              I will have a look this evening and make a decision.

                              Thanks,

                              Paul

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                              • monsterjazzlick
                                dBpoweramp Guru
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 1764

                                Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                                Originally posted by Oggy
                                ALBUMSORT is a strange one, and obviously comes down to what makes sense to you. Here are a couple of examples which show my logic. This may, or may not make sense to you!

                                ARTIST = The Beatles

                                ARTISTSORT = Beatles, The

                                ALBUM = The Beatles

                                I personally do not use ALBUMSORT, which may seem contradictory, but here is my reasoning:

                                ARTIST = Kate Bush (obviously there is a choice of using ARTISTSORT, or not).

                                ALBUM = The Kick Inside

                                In my mind, the album name is The Kick Inside, so I would expect it to fall under Ts, as I would (album name) The Beatles.

                                The library that works best for an individual, is likely to be one where we find what we want instinctively, so purely personal choice based on our own requirements.

                                In the case of The Best Of Emerson, Lake & Palmer, I would also expect this to be in Ts, following and not preceding, Brain Salad Surgery: you may well not.
                                Hi Oggy,

                                I am going to use the ALBUMSORT tag in the way that Jailhouse suggests, thanks:
                                ALBUM = The Beatles

                                ALBUMSORT = Beatles, The

                                But I don't know if JH uses an ALBUMSORT tag for every single CD in his collection? I intend on using it exclusively for albums who's title have an opening 'THE'. And, therefore, albums without an opening 'THE' (in the title) will consequently not have an ALBUMSORT tag.

                                Cheers,

                                Paul

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