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  • Pooner
    • Jun 2008
    • 1

    Lossless Encoding question

    I originally (several years ago) encoded my whole CD library to WMA lossless 24 bit 44.1khz. At the time I picked 24 bit ignorantly thinking it was better than 16 and kept going with it.

    So recently I purchased an Apple TV and wanted to batch convert my library to ALAC, however dbpoweramp would not let me. The files apparently have to be 16 bit 44.1. So I batch converted my whole library to WMA lossless 16bit 44.1 and then again to ALAC.

    Here is my question.. finally. Did I potentially compromise any quality/purity of the original EAC ripped file in going from WAV ----> 24bit WMA lossless ---> 16bit WMA lossless ----> ALAC lossless?

    Thank you.
  • LtData
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • May 2004
    • 8288

    #2
    Re: Lossless Encoding question

    No, lossless is lossless. Do not that there is a DSP effect that would have reduced the bitrate when re-encoding your 24-bit WMA files that would enable you go directly from your 24-bit WMA to ALAC: "Bit Depth".

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    • LeoDavidson
      • Jun 2008
      • 6

      #3
      Re: Lossless Encoding question

      I'd re-rip a song or two to 16-bit and check that it's identical to the files you had in 24-bit and converted to 16-bit. If it's the same then you can be confident nothing bad happened.

      Remember to compare just the music parts of the two files, without any tags/metadata. If you decode them to WAV using something that doesn't write tags to the files then you can probably do a simple binary comparison on the files. Or use a tool for comparing wav files.

      In theory the 16-bit audio would have been zero-padded to 24-bits, and then truncated back to 16-bit, so you wouldn't lose anything, and a couple of songs confirming that fact would give me confidence that the whole collection was fine.

      (Sometimes when you convert between 16 and 24 or vice versa a tool will use dithering or other effects to give a higher quality result, so it's worth a quick check, IMO.)

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      • LtData
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • May 2004
        • 8288

        #4
        Re: Lossless Encoding question

        If you have dBpoweramp Reference and have installed the Reference Codec Pack, you have a "[Calculate Audio CRC]" that only calculates the CRC based on the audio data.

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        • ohrsantos
          • Jul 2008
          • 2

          #5
          Re: Lossless Encoding question

          I wanted convert some of my FLAC 24/28 to ALAC, however dbpoweramp would not let me. The files apparently have to be 16 bit 44.1.

          I've made a research and ALAC "IS" not just compatible with 24bits but with 48KHz and 96Khz. For short ALAC is full compatible with HD audio especification and multi channel.

          Why Cant I convert form my Flac 24bits/48KHz directly to ALAC. I wanted to to that, first because is pratical and second to keep all the file tags copied as well.

          Is that a problems with dbpoweramp converter?

          Thanks

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          • Spoon
            Administrator
            • Apr 2002
            • 43930

            #6
            Re: Lossless Encoding question

            Our alac encoder is cd quality only.
            Spoon
            www.dbpoweramp.com

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            • dmdevotee
              • Aug 2008
              • 22

              #7
              Re: Lossless Encoding question

              Originally posted by Spoon
              Our alac encoder is cd quality only.
              is there any way to convert a 24 bit wav to a 24 bit apple lossless?

              iTunes doesn't keep the folder structure

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