ripping cds before sending to nas..

**garym** · 02-07-2015, 01:46 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Originally posted by daleyb

Think iam being over cautious here (still better safe than sorry!) .If i ripp original cds in DBPA to a external harddrive then copy them all over to a NAS-can i take it no data will be lost inc photos cd image cover etc..

Does all the data remain perfectly intact.?

Or is it better to go straight to NAS..?

no problem with ripping then copying over to NAS. All data and files will be intact.

**BrodyBoy** · 02-08-2015, 02:13 AM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

It's no different than copying or moving any other kind of file.....a .pdf or a .jpg, whatever....so long as the physical media itself is ok, the digital information remains intact as a discrete file.

**wdesbrow** · 02-20-2015, 04:55 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Wouldn't there be an obvious time savings in ripping directly to a NAS (assuming no disadvantages)?

**BrodyBoy** · 02-20-2015, 06:43 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Originally posted by wdesbrow

Wouldn't there be an obvious time savings in ripping directly to a NAS (assuming no disadvantages)?

Metadata anomalies really degrade a music library's "user-friendliness." And in my experience, no matter how meticulous I am with my ID Tag Processing DSP setup, no matter how carefully I look over the on-screen data before hitting the RIP button, there are metadata issues that sneak in which are only captured and corrected in my post-rip review.

That review, therefore, is an indispensable step in my ripping workflow, and doing it locally has a couple advantages. First, it tends to be noticeably faster than working with files located elsewhere on the network (NAS, etc.). Second, and more important for me, it organizes my workflow much better, as there's such a clear demarcation.....the albums on my local computer still need review, while I know the ones I've actually moved to the NAS are "done." Especially when doing a number of albums in one session, it's very easy to lose track if they're not physically separated like that.

So ultimately, when you're particular about getting the metadata right, I find that it saves more time to do all processing locally before moving my files to the NAS. Just my two cents' worth......

**garym** · 02-20-2015, 08:41 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Originally posted by BrodyBoy

So ultimately, when you're particular about getting the metadata right, I find that it saves more time to do all processing locally before moving my files to the NAS. Just my two cents' worth......

I couldn't agree more with BrodyBoy. This reason is also my number 1 reason for ripping to local HDD then moving to my server. Also, I've seen numerous posts over the years on issues created in ripping directly to a NAS. It may work fine and be fast or issues may crop up regarding permissions, failures regarding analyzing files for ReplayGain at the end of a rip, and a number of other things. My advice would be to simply try ripping directly to NAS if that is your preference to see if it goes smoothly. But BrodyBoy's point still stands. (and note that I'm very meticulous about my metadata and rips, etc. but likewise, no matter how hard I try, I tend to have something to fix on many of my rips before moving to my server.)

**wdesbrow** · 02-20-2015, 09:20 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

May Thanks to garym and brodyboy for very clear answers.

Follow-on question: Should I assume then that when you are copying a "done" file from your computer to the server, that you should USB connect your NAS directly to your computer. Yesterday I test COPIED a handful of high def files from my computer to the NAS thru the wifi network. It seemed to take a long time. IS there a way to simply drag them over?

**garym** · 02-20-2015, 09:25 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Originally posted by wdesbrow

May Thanks to garym and brodyboy for very clear answers.

Follow-on question: Should I assume then that when you are copying a "done" file from your computer to the server, that you should USB connect your NAS directly to your computer. Yesterday I test COPIED a handful of high def files from my computer to the NAS thru the wifi network. It seemed to take a long time. IS there a way to simply drag them over?

In my case, I copy them over via my local network. But in my case, the computer I do the ripping on is connected via ethernet cable to my network vs WIFI. So the copying is MUCH faster than WIFI. My NAS/SERVER music directly is simply mapped as a "letter" (e.g., Z) drive on my windows computer so it is as simple as copying the directories of new albums from my c:\ drive over to my "z:\" drive with a couple of mouse clicks.

p.s. ripping to the NAS where the file is moving to the NAS while ripping via WIFI probably works OK, but I suspect that approach opens up even more potential issues with ripping to a NAS (as well as likely slowing down the ripping process itself).

**BrodyBoy** · 02-20-2015, 10:15 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Same here.....all my components (relevant to the ripping workflow) are hardwired to my network. Once I know that folders are ready to go, I just open Windows Explorer and SHIFT-drag to move them from the local drive to where I want them on the server.

Even if it's a little slower to do that with a wi-fi connection, I wouldn't think it should make too much difference if you move relatively small batches at a time. These days, I seldom rip more than a handful of CDs in one sitting, so there's never that much to transfer when I'm done.

*Congrats, Gary....2,000 posts!

**garym** · 02-20-2015, 10:22 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Originally posted by BrodyBoy

*Congrats, Gary....2,000 posts!

wow. i didn't even notice. Too much time on my hands I guess.

**daleyb** · 02-22-2015, 07:57 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Thanks for info all.Looks like Iam getting most things right..! The reason Iam ripping too p.c HDD first is because I have not purchased a NAS yet.My plan is to ripp Homemade cds First...Which takes ages due to inputting metadata.The Orig. cds next. then buy NAS copy then to streamer..I planning to copy my ripps to a wd 2tb Drive for saftey / backup too.Then back up again before raiding to qnap wd red x2 4tb.
This way I can keep read forum and" Buy" a little/lot of time getting it right.I can also Double check ripps with report and even rerip if need.----------- I Wouldnt of thought copying to NAS WOULD TAKE THAT LONG.but would never ripp over wifi- i will do it via USB.
Thanks Brodyboy and GaryM For help.

**wdesbrow** · 03-04-2015, 04:57 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Another Newbie question...

When I ripped my first CD to my laptop's hard drive, I wanted to ad a field ("Comment") but I wanted it to re-appear in every CD page thereafter -- but it didn't. Is there a way to make it a field that appears every time?

Thanks.

**BrodyBoy** · 03-04-2015, 08:18 PM

Re: ripping cds before sending to nas..

Originally posted by wdesbrow

Another Newbie question...

When I ripped my first CD to my laptop's hard drive, I wanted to ad a field ("Comment") but I wanted it to re-appear in every CD page thereafter -- but it didn't. Is there a way to make it a field that appears every time?

Thanks.

You asked this elsewhere, right? (It's easy to lose track of all the posters and threads sometimes!

) If it was answered satisfactorily there, we won't pursue it here.

Better to keep a question in one thread, as it keeps the discussion more cohesive and coherent. And there's no need to ask it multiple times in different places, since it's all the same eyes that see it.