Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

[mville]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

I am just trying to follow the Ripper configuration directions which cannot be done without using profiles if you have both a C2 and a non-C2 drive.

Personally, I would leave the Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads settings the same and I wouldn't be too concerned at the moment. In my experience, it won't be an issue as CDs that are badly scratched or have manufacturing errors won't rip successfully in any drive, regardless of the settings. If and when you come across such a CD, then I would experiment with the ultra secure settings to see if you can rip the damaged CD.

What is important is that when you rip, your CD Rip Status reports as Accurate, so ultra secure mode is irrelevant. The good news is you have 2 drives. If a CD does not rip in one, it may rip in the other, as an AccurateRip.

[Steve Sr.]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

Yes, I understand that, but I am yet to be convinced (after ripping CDs for many, many years) that having these different software settings is important, especially when you consider how often drives claim to support C2 but don't implement the support (as Spoon has already mentioned) and that we have the AccurareRip feature. FYI, I have a drive that reports to support C2, but it does not.

However having said that, I have also said if you must have different Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads, you are able to setup different profiles. No big deal.

I am just trying to follow the Ripper configuration directions which cannot be done without using profiles if you have both a C2 and a non-C2 drive.

[mville]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

Go look at the CD Ripper configuration instructions paying close attention to the differences between C2 and non-C2 drives.

Yes, I understand that, but I am yet to be convinced (after ripping CDs for many, many years) that having these different software settings is important, especially when you consider how often drives claim to support C2 but don't implement the support (as Spoon has already mentioned) and that we have the AccurareRip feature. FYI, I have a drive that reports to support C2, but it does not.

However having said that, I have also said if you must have different Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads, you are able to setup different profiles. No big deal.

[Steve Sr.]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

So we are now going full circle in this thread and the question still remains!

Why do users need different Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads for different drives?

I'm not sure and you haven't given a convincing reason why, but if you must have different Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads, you are able to setup different profiles. No big deal.

Go look at the CD Ripper configuration instructions paying close attention to the differences between C2 and non-C2 drives.

[mville]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

Go back and reread post *8. These are NOT the parameters that I was referring to.

So we are now going full circle in this thread and the question still remains!

Why do users need different Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads for different drives?

I'm not sure and you haven't given a convincing reason why, but if you must have different Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads, you are able to setup different profiles. No big deal.

[Steve Sr.]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

[QUOTE=mville;179748]Which version of dBpoweramp Music Converter have you installed?

I have dBpoweramp R16.3, 64-bit installed on a Windows 10 Pro PC and I can configure different drive settings, without the need to set-up separate profiles.

I have the same version running on Win 7 Pro x64.

... just to clarify, the drive settings being:

Drive Read Cache
Clear Read Cache with FUA
C2 Error Pointers for Error Detection
8KB Transfers (C2 Pointers over USB/Firewire)

Go back and reread post *8. These are NOT the parameters that I was referring to.

[mville]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

Exactly... But the program treats them like globals (same for both drives) hence the issue. If you want to separate them you need to setup a profile for each drive.

Which version of dBpoweramp Music Converter have you installed?

I have dBpoweramp R16.3, 64-bit installed on a Windows 10 Pro PC and I can configure different drive settings, without the need to set-up separate profiles.

... just to clarify, the drive settings being:

Drive Read Cache
Clear Read Cache with FUA
C2 Error Pointers for Error Detection
8KB Transfers (C2 Pointers over USB/Firewire)

[Steve Sr.]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

No. The other parameters you refer to ARE drive specific.

Exactly... But the program treats them like globals (same for both drives) hence the issue. If you want to separate them you need to setup a profile for each drive.

[mville]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

Yes, but if you look at the other parameters that are supposedly NOT drive specific (like I mentioned originally) you will find different recommendations depending on if the drive supports C2 or not. Thus to follow the instructions you would have to setup a different profile for each drive to account for these differences.

No. The other parameters you refer to ARE drive specific.

[Steve Sr.]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

The C2 Error Pointers for Error Detection is a drive specific setting, not a CD Ripper software specific setting.

Yes, but if you look at the other parameters that are supposedly NOT drive specific (like I mentioned originally) you will find different recommendations depending on if the drive supports C2 or not. Thus to follow the instructions you would have to setup a different profile for each drive to account for these differences.

[mville]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

One drive supports C2 (Pioneer) and the other (Lite-on) does not. Further down the configuration page you'll find different settings.

The C2 Error Pointers for Error Detection is a drive specific setting, not a CD Ripper software specific setting.

[Steve Sr.]

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Why do you assume that the software settings will differ for different drives? I have 2 different drives and the software settings are identical for both drives.

One drive supports C2 (Pioneer) and the other (Lite-on) does not. Further down the configuration page you'll find different settings.

[mville]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

This information about Ripping Profiles should be added to the TOP of the configuration instructions page for those PCs setup with more than one possible ripping drive. Unless both drives are IDENTICAL it is highly unlikely that the global ripping parameters will match both drives.

Why do you assume that the software settings will differ for different drives? I have 2 different drives and the software settings are identical for both drives.

[Steve Sr.]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

If you want different software settings for each drive, you are able to create different profiles (for profiles, see bottom left of the main CD Ripper window).

This information about Ripping Profiles should be added to the TOP of the configuration instructions page for those PCs setup with more than one possible ripping drive. Unless both drives are IDENTICAL it is highly unlikely that the global ripping parameters will match both drives.

[mville]

Re: Ripper Drive Configuration Issues

Since I have 2 different potential ripping drives I would have expected that there would be completely separate configuration parameters for each drive. Unfortunately, I have this NOT to be the case. It appears that some parameters appear to be global to ALL drives such as Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads.

Is this as designed or is this a software issue?

By design. Settings you are calling global e.g. Ultra Secure Passes and Maximum Re-Reads, are specific to the CD Ripper software and are not drive specific.

If you want different software settings for each drive, you are able to create different profiles (for profiles, see bottom left of the main CD Ripper window).