Ripping problems

[schmidj]

Re: Ripping problems

While mp3tag unfortunately does not deal with .WAV tags (which I need for my own live recordings as I process them), and my audio editor did not attach the proper version of ID tagging to let me add the tags I needed, dBPoweramp does have available a utility codec "ID Tag Update" that can add a proper version to .WAV files when you run it. Then right clicking on the "converted" .WAV file with the new tag version in Windows Explorer allows me to edit the ID tags to enter what I want. (I thank Mr. Spoon for pointing that out when I first ran into the issue.) I do this, because I subsequently run the multi-encoder in convert to convert the .wav files into the several filetypes I need to distribute. Since I entered the ID tags on the .wav files before conversion, they automatically are saved with each of the converted filetypes, I do not have to manually enter the tags to each of the converted filetypes.

[garym]

Re: Ripping problems

Funny how you can learn something every day... I've been using mp3tag since it first came out, and I have the current version. Years ago, I tried to use it to tag WAV and FLAC files and the context menu option wasn't hter for those file types. I never even looked again until I say this post. It still can't do WAV's, but I'm pleased to see that it can indeed handle FLAC's and some others!

Thanks, garym...

You're very welcome. And mp3tag still doesn't deal with WAV. That's understandable as there is no standard tagging format for adding tags to WAV files; every program does it differently.

[cpprioli]

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2. No, mp3tag handles mp3, m4a, OGG, FLAC and others....

Funny how you can learn something every day... I've been using mp3tag since it first came out, and I have the current version. Years ago, I tried to use it to tag WAV and FLAC files and the context menu option wasn't hter for those file types. I never even looked again until I say this post. It still can't do WAV's, but I'm pleased to see that it can indeed handle FLAC's and some others!

Thanks, garym...

[garym]

Re: Ripping problems

Regarding your wife and your music, I have the same issue. She's a good sport but headphones help a lot too! I feel your pain!

Regarding your comments on modifying your tagging scheme, those are interesting and beg a couple of questions:
1) can you change the tagging scheme after the fact (i.e. after they've been ripped?)
2) is mp3tag limited to MP3 files or can it address tagging in flac format files?

1. yes. I do it often in my tinkering. the audio is not changed, just the tags.
2. No, mp3tag handles mp3, m4a, OGG, FLAC and others....

this is the mp3tag program I'm referring to:

http://download.mp3tag.de/mp3tagv266setup.exe

[garym]

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Yes -- You can change your tagging scheme at any time, especially with mp3tag (a great app BTW). Unfortunately, mp3tag is MP3 specific.

No, mp3tag handles mp3, FLAC, OGG, m4a, and a few other file types. Most of my files are FLAC files and I use mp3tag to edit the tags often.

[cpprioli]

Re: Ripping problems

Further thoughts... if you are not familiar withj mp3tag, you can get it at http://www.mp3tag.de, and it is great for making both automated (scripted) and manual edits, allowing you to edit the tags of multiple files at one time. It handles all levels of MP3 tags, including extended tag info.

[cpprioli]

Re: Ripping problems

Yes -- You can change your tagging scheme at any time, especially with mp3tag (a great app BTW). Unfortunately, mp3tag is MP3 specific.

[tombeck7]

Re: Ripping problems

Regarding your wife and your music, I have the same issue. She's a good sport but headphones help a lot too! I feel your pain!

Regarding your comments on modifying your tagging scheme, those are interesting and beg a couple of questions:
1) can you change the tagging scheme after the fact (i.e. after they've been ripped?)
2) is mp3tag limited to MP3 files or can it address tagging in flac format files?

[garym]

Re: Ripping problems

Thank you for the input and link to the interesting article. Clearly I need to think this through before I go crazy ripping CDs. Your music collection sounds awesome.

Yes, tagging schemes are really person specific and need to fit how YOU use the music, search the music, and the players and servers you use (they of course need to recognize the tags you use). I've been collecting music since my first album (The Best of the Animals, received as a gift in the early 1960s when I was a kid). But despite all my music, I still get "you never play anything I like" from my wife of 31 years. Of course I play lots of things she likes....but I also play lots of things she doesn't like. That's the curse of having lots of music.

edit: and the good news is that even after you rip, you can easily modify your tagging scheme as you change your mind/learn more. I'm constantly tinkering with my tagging. My tools are dbpoweramp and mp3tag.

[tombeck7]

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Thank you for the input and link to the interesting article. Clearly I need to think this through before I go crazy ripping CDs. Your music collection sounds awesome.

[garym]

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Thank you for the feedback/suggestion. I've been using the default dynamic naming scheme but given your suggestion, I may have to rethink it and add track numbers as you suggest. Because there are so many different classical artists, I wanted to lead my scheme with composer. Here is what I'm thinking I should do:

[composer]\[artist]\[album]\[track]- [title]

Also, I think I found where to make the track number 2 digits - it is in Meta Data (Options) under the Options.

Any further suggestions are very welcome. I appreciate your help.

Your naming scheme looks reasonable for classical (as composer is key info). and with the track - title filename you should solve the duplicate name problem. also, here's some tagging info for classical. I'm not much help. Of my 6500 cds, about 30 are classical.

http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.php/Beginners_Guide_To_Classical

[tombeck7]

Re: Ripping problems

Thank you for the feedback/suggestion. I've been using the default dynamic naming scheme but given your suggestion, I may have to rethink it and add track numbers as you suggest. Because there are so many different classical artists, I wanted to lead my scheme with composer. Here is what I'm thinking I should do:

[composer]\[artist]\[album]\[track]- [title]

Also, I think I found where to make the track number 2 digits - it is in Meta Data (Options) under the Options.

Any further suggestions are very welcome. I appreciate your help.

[garym]

Re: Ripping problems

Ahh. Good catch. This is why one should use track numbers as part of file name. Then this can't happen. My tracks are all named: [track] - [title]
and somewhere in settings I indicated I want track numbers to be two digit: 01, 02, etc.

edit: and to be clear, you mention that track numbers don't solve the problem. In fact they do (I don't have this issue). I suspect you have track numbers correct BUT HAVE NOT USED THEM IN YOUR DYNAMIC TRACK FILE NAMING SCHEME. For example, my filenames are:

x:\music\ARTIST\ALBUM\trackno - trackname.

So this would be:

x:\music\The Beatles\Abbey Road\01 - Come Together.flac
etc. So even if there were more than one track named "Come Together", the filenames would be different because of the tracknumber at the first part of filename.

[tombeck7]

Re: Ripping problems

After getting a new DVD drive and re-ripping the problem CD's, I figured out that, in fact, the missing tracks were missing, even though dBp reported them as ripped with no errors. The reason this was happening is because the CD had 2 tracks named identically, so the second track with the same name overwrote the 1st one. I'm finding this to be a problem with some CD's, particularly classical ones. I've solved the problem now by carefully reviewing the track names before I rip, and adding a small edit to a duplicate track to make it unique. Hope this explains this phenomenon for future users who may encounter the same problem. Apparently, having different track numbers isn't enough to prevent the overwriting of identically titled tracks. This may also be a worthwhile change to incorporate in future dBp releases.

[tombeck7]

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I did as you suggested and was able to get all tracks to rip, however, it took 4 attempts using 2 different drives. I was getting different results (errors) wth same CD in 2 diff drives. But, when it was all said and done all tracks got ripped. Now I'm looking to get a new external drive for my PC. Any recommendations?

Thank you for your help.