How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

If I convert ALAC (or any other compressed format except FLAC) to WAV, do I lose any quality?

No. Lossless is lossless. WAV=FLAC=ALAC. And even if you convert a lossy file (mp3, m4a) to WAV, you won't lose any quality. The WAV file will contain exactly what the lossy file contained (albeit in a much larger file container).

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

If I convert ALAC (or any other compressed format except FLAC) to WAV, do I lose any quality?

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

no, one can spit a single flac with cue file into multiple tracks with no loss. still lossless. The one time I used cuetools, it also created a 00. HTOA track (which was not anything that played). Not sure why it did that, but didn't cause issues with other tracks created. Also, foobar2000 can convert a single flac/cue into separate flac tracks tool

Note that this is generally true with a program that can split singlefile/cue file properly. I'm sure there are some programs floating around that don't do it correctly. But cuetools and foobar2000 certainly work. And your accuraterip matches above confirmed that it worked.

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

yes, so your logs do in fact confirm that you have accuraterip matches on the album with separate tracks.

Thanks.

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

yes, so your logs do in fact confirm that you have accuraterip matches on the album with separate tracks.

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

you can even confirm this. if the album is in accurraterip database, after split into separate tracks, run perfecttunes on the album and you should get a match.

PerfectTUNES log:

John Lennon - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)
  Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC D0FC9D62]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\01. Imagine.flac
  Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC 797D7DDA]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\02. Crippled Inside.flac
  Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC CA826FD0]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\03. Jealous Guy.flac
  Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC AFE41C83]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\04. It's So Hard.flac
  Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC A7804893]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\05. I Don't Want To Be A Soldier.flac
  Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC 7B0608E2]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\06. Give Me Some Truth.flac
  Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC FA568A4C]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\07. Oh My Love.flac
  Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC 122951EF]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\08. How Do You Sleep_.flac
  Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC F3EE8751]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\09. How_.flac
  Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 8, Pressing Offset +290 [ARv2 CRC E939844D]  D:\1970 - 1982 Jonn Lennon\1987 - Imagine (CDP 7 46641 2)\10. Oh Yoko!.flac

CUETools batch log:

 
[CUETools log; Date: 27.4.2013 &*1075;. 14:02:13; Version: 2.1.4]
Pregap length 00:00:33.
[CTDB TOCID: JmxBIeLDLFKSWTE5a4EWOqXUv6c-] found.
Track | CTDB Status
  1   | (5/8) Accurately ripped
  2   | (7/8) Accurately ripped
  3   | (7/8) Accurately ripped
  4   | (7/8) Accurately ripped
  5   | (7/8) Accurately ripped
  6   | (8/8) Accurately ripped
  7   | (7/8) Accurately ripped
  8   | (7/8) Accurately ripped
  9   | (8/8) Accurately ripped
 10   | (8/8) Accurately ripped
[AccurateRip ID: 000e5f02-00744251-92093c0a] found.
Track   [  CRC   |   V2   ] Status
 01     [18cb656d|937d9fa8] (037+005/200) Accurately ripped
 02     [6f79894c|875a2ae9] (038+003/197) Accurately ripped
 03     [a4fa67bb|d6c4f31a] (038+004/199) Accurately ripped
 04     [69041163|7b24a8e4] (039+004/202) Accurately ripped
 05     [f889273c|ab1f640e] (036+004/197) Accurately ripped
 06     [bf9453a1|a3001868] (038+004/199) Accurately ripped
 07     [da1c8edf|70ed109c] (037+004/203) Accurately ripped
 08     [67f2d771|3752a792] (038+003/197) Accurately ripped
 09     [33616ca3|5987d92b] (037+004/199) Accurately ripped
 10     [fb5fa4da|5c0d911b] (036+004/200) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by -1150:
 01     [f7cb0ae9] (029/200) Accurately ripped
 02     [4dc5476a] (026/197) Accurately ripped
 03     [febe8789] (029/199) Accurately ripped
 04     [cc55e921] (027/202) Accurately ripped
 05     [a0334ff8] (029/197) Accurately ripped
 06     [e8890153] (028/199) Accurately ripped
 07     [e4b55ea7] (030/203) Accurately ripped
 08     [e073f073] (027/197) Accurately ripped
 09     [c7c5c02f] (028/199) Accurately ripped
 10     [08f89e0e] (030/200) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by -231:
 01     [2dfddb7b] (021/200) Accurately ripped
 02     [0214fe83] (021/197) Accurately ripped
 03     [0c44c00a] (021/199) Accurately ripped
 04     [adf0aaea] (021/202) Accurately ripped
 05     [52facdea] (020/197) Accurately ripped
 06     [cf98f412] (020/199) Accurately ripped
 07     [8b35e923] (021/203) Accurately ripped
 08     [e9abb74a] (019/197) Accurately ripped
 09     [95f95c79] (021/199) Accurately ripped
 10     [9d0c2c64] (020/200) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by 290:
 01     [9b8d27a9] (086/200) Accurately ripped
 02     [b887d3ca] (087/197) Accurately ripped
 03     [f93192e9] (084/199) Accurately ripped
 04     [d5890781] (088/202) Accurately ripped
 05     [805790b8] (086/197) Accurately ripped
 06     [e1c5edf3] (087/199) Accurately ripped
 07     [a2036127] (088/203) Accurately ripped
 08     [c1c4ee13] (087/197) Accurately ripped
 09     [21fea9ef] (086/199) Accurately ripped
 10     [ea96904e] (087/200) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by 1128:
 01     [9d56a69d] (007/200) Accurately ripped
 02     [253c9964] (007/197) Accurately ripped
 03     [6d6e1f93] (007/199) Accurately ripped
 04     [3d05b5fb] (007/202) Accurately ripped
 05     [34e9d16c] (006/197) Accurately ripped
 06     [42d0d9c9] (006/199) Accurately ripped
 07     [72aabb7f] (007/203) Accurately ripped
 08     [698359d9] (007/197) Accurately ripped
 09     [f1857913] (007/199) Accurately ripped
 10     [fd2c6f6a] (007/200) Accurately ripped
Offsetted by 652:
 01     [4ce56b55] (000/200) No match (V2 was not tested)
 02     [7a1fd880] (000/197) No match (V2 was not tested)
 03     [8054e50f] (000/199) No match (V2 was not tested)
 04     [75b6f257] (000/202) No match (V2 was not tested)
 05     [068e30a4] (000/197) No match (V2 was not tested)
 06     [d06dc74d] (000/199) No match (V2 was not tested)
 07     [99c7b38f] (000/203) No match (V2 was not tested)
 08     [0074aafd] (000/197) No match (V2 was not tested)
 09     [4851f2eb] (000/199) No match (V2 was not tested)
 10     [beaefb12] (000/200) No match (V2 was not tested)

Track Peak [ CRC32  ] [W/O NULL] [  LOG   ]
 --   99.1 [F030D836] [7ED303B6]   CRC32   
 01   99.0 [113D9C01] [A86799F7]           
 02   99.1 [9218FC01] [E436E1F0]           
 03   84.2 [A3AB9A65] [2BFC96FE]           
 04   97.7 [7DFCAA58] [C61D58B1]           
 05   87.3 [E160B0C6] [128A59C1]           
 06   96.9 [D1F7137C] [EFA60A54]           
 07   64.2 [B7E2B765] [052FFFCA]           
 08   85.2 [2936A4D9] [0E313C61]           
 09   87.2 [F607E5B0] [1FBC6A52]           
 10   89.2 [E31AA516] [0B262BAE]

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Ok, thanks. I was just curious if the files are still lossless after splitting the large file. Cheers.

you can even confirm this. if the album is in accurraterip database, after split into separate tracks, run perfecttunes on the album and you should get a match.

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

no, one can spit a single flac with cue file into multiple tracks with no loss. still lossless. The one time I used cuetools, it also created a 00. HTOA track (which was not anything that played). Not sure why it did that, but didn't cause issues with other tracks created. Also, foobar2000 can convert a single flac/cue into separate flac tracks tool

Ok, thanks. I was just curious if the files are still lossless after splitting the large file. Cheers.

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Do I lose any quality if I split a single-flac album into multiple tracks(files)? I have John Lennon's "Imagine" in a single FLAC file and someone told me to use CUETools->Encode->Tracks->FLAC->libFLAC->8->Go.. in order to do that. So, do I lose quality? It's still lossless after that right?

P.S. Btw, I'm having a 00. HTOA track/file now which is placed before Track 01. Is that bad or something?

no, one can spit a single flac with cue file into multiple tracks with no loss. still lossless. The one time I used cuetools, it also created a 00. HTOA track (which was not anything that played). Not sure why it did that, but didn't cause issues with other tracks created. Also, foobar2000 can convert a single flac/cue into separate flac tracks tool

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Do I lose any quality if I split a single-flac album into multiple tracks(files)? I have John Lennon's "Imagine" in a single FLAC file and someone told me to use CUETools->Encode->Tracks->FLAC->libFLAC->8->Go.. in order to do that. So, do I lose quality? It's still lossless after that right?

P.S. Btw, I'm having a 00. HTOA track/file now which is placed before Track 01. Is that bad or something?

[Spoon]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

There are 2 offsets a drive offset and pressing offset, if a drive is ripped with the 'correct' offset, it will appear as pressing offset 0 for non-pressing discs.

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Also, CRCs dont match.

perhaps this.
http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthre...l=1*post110074

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Also, CRCs dont match.

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Something's not right.

EAC extraction logfile from 19. November 2008, 23:30 for CD
Coldplay / Parachutes

Used drive  : ATAPI CDROM DRIVE-50MAX   Adapter: 0  ID: 3
Read mode   : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 12
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe   (User Defined Encoder)
                     192 kBit/s
                     Additional command line options : -8 -A tukey(0.25) -A gauss(0.1875) -b 4096 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s --sector-align

Other options      : 
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
    Installed external ASPI interface


Track  1
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\01 - Coldplay - Don't Panic.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 47355552
     Copy CRC 47355552
     Copy OK

Track  2
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\02 - Coldplay - Shiver.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 7A2C30ED
     Copy CRC 7A2C30ED
     Copy OK

Track  3
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\03 - Coldplay - Spies.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 36C7F7C3
     Copy CRC 36C7F7C3
     Copy OK

Track  4
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\04 - Coldplay - Sparks.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC DA3F795B
     Copy CRC DA3F795B
     Copy OK

Track  5
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\05 - Coldplay - Yellow.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC C16BCE47
     Copy CRC C16BCE47
     Copy OK

Track  6
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\06 - Coldplay - Trouble.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.06

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 7986A29D
     Copy CRC 7986A29D
     Copy OK

Track  7
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\07 - Coldplay - Parachutes.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.02

     Peak level 82.2 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC FB11FE06
     Copy CRC FB11FE06
     Copy OK

Track  8
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\08 - Coldplay - High Speed.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC ABC0DE84
     Copy CRC ABC0DE84
     Copy OK

Track  9
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\09 - Coldplay - We Never Change.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 17488E08
     Copy CRC 17488E08
     Copy OK

Track 10
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\10 - Coldplay - Everything's Not Lost.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC BD0866A2
     Copy CRC BD0866A2
     Copy OK

No errors occured


End of status report

Coldplay - Parachutes
  Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC E17EAC17]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\01 - Coldplay - Don't Panic.flac
  Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8F4345FA]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\02 - Coldplay - Shiver.flac
  Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC AFD25F29]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\03 - Coldplay - Spies.flac
  Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 98934068]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\04 - Coldplay - Sparks.flac
  Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6605142A]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\05 - Coldplay - Yellow.flac
  Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 66CF23BF]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\06 - Coldplay - Trouble.flac
  Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 76094FDD]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\07 - Coldplay - Parachutes.flac
  Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 65D0CCD5]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\08 - Coldplay - High Speed.flac
  Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 23435BC4]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\09 - Coldplay - We Never Change.flac
  Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 91745DB1]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\10 - Coldplay - Everything's Not Lost.flac

The .log for 'Parachutes' says: Read offset correction : 12
The .log that PerfectTunes delivers in the end of verifying says: Offset +0

Why are those different?

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

yes, getting even "1" match to someone else's rip is excellent verification, and the best option available anywhere. No, you can't verify single tracks (yet), only albums as far as I know.,

Not sure who is developing the program but there should be an option for single-file verification.. Hopefully there will be in the future. Anyway, thanks for replying and helping. Always appreciated.


P.S. What does that mean:

CueTools is a different (nonIllustrate program). A thread on it is here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...33&hl=cuetools

nonillustrate?