Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Could not wait. With the HP DVD 400c in secure mode (once) and burst mode (once), I could not see any sync errors reported. I know I've seen sync errors in the past with EAC and other CDs.
I had forgotten another burst result, so at last count on HP DVD 400c :
Burst mode : 6 rips with confidence 10
Secure mode (+cache -c2) : 6 rips with confidence 4
Have fun...
Jean
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
I fully agree, but IMHO we don't have sufficient info to know if the two issues are related or not.
My point is that we should look in the AR database to see what kind of information we can get about the 10 and the 4 matching rips to see if we can confirm or infirm our current hypothesis. I would expect this info to be very interesting, as thhose other rips introduce more diversity.
We may want to make a call for testers on Hydrogenaudio to try to enlarge the test base. Could we track the authors of the rips in the database ? We don't have the source code to inspect, so the only thing we can do is to treat it as a black box and make more elaborate and diverse tests.
Yes. I don't fully understand what different about burst mode and secure mode in EAC, what I know is that in all my drives, burst mode is 2 or 3 times faster than secure, even on drives with no cache and C2 pointers. So, I expect something is different. The code path in EAC is different, and the code path in the drive firmware *may* be different, but I don't have enough knowledge here.
When I'm back home, I'll try burst and no C2 on the Lite-On. I'll try secure with the PX-230A. I don't know what to try on the Samsung.
Once again, you totally lost me, but that was probably not for me.
Note that I believe the EAC sync errors are reported in the log (I would need to check that). I'll pay more attention to sync errors next time.
Thanks again...
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Yes, but unlike that user, you're experiencing consistent results with dBpoweramp.
I want to reiterate that all passes performed by dBpa are burst passes and you get the same result when ripping with EAC in burst mode. Busting out this thread can lead to some serious consternation, but let me just offer this post:
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
That's an assumption that would deserve to be verified. Remember that in the other thread I linked, the user was using dBpowerAmp.
I expect that you have full access to the database. Would it be possible for you to verify what were the setup of the 10 and the 4 people ? What software they where using, which settings and which drives ? I know that you at least have info about the drives in the database.
Have fun...
JeanLeave a comment:
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Hi again,
I started scratching my head, and wondered what was the difference between EAC and dBpowerAmp. One of the biggies is that dBpowerAmp does its first rip in burst mode, whereas I configured EAC to use Secure mode.
What about EAC in burst mode ? Let's try on the HP DVD 400c.
Confidence 10 ! Interesting.Code:Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 3 from 28. July 2007 EAC extraction logfile from 15. February 2008, 14:17 Simple Minds / The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1) Used drive : HP DVD Writer 400c Adapter: 1 ID: 0 Read mode : Burst Read offset correction : 1292 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : No Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000 Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track Used output format : User Defined Encoder Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s Quality : High Add ID3 tag : No Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 4:23.22 | 0 | 19746 2 | 4:23.22 | 3:58.62 | 19747 | 37658 3 | 8:22.09 | 4:51.27 | 37659 | 59510 4 | 13:13.36 | 5:26.46 | 59511 | 84006 5 | 18:40.07 | 4:00.15 | 84007 | 102021 6 | 22:40.22 | 4:18.23 | 102022 | 121394 7 | 26:58.45 | 4:59.11 | 121395 | 143830 8 | 31:57.56 | 4:34.64 | 143831 | 164444 9 | 36:32.45 | 4:46.70 | 164445 | 185964 10 | 41:19.40 | 4:07.01 | 185965 | 204490 11 | 45:26.41 | 4:05.74 | 204491 | 222939 12 | 49:32.40 | 5:52.40 | 222940 | 249379 13 | 55:25.05 | 3:54.02 | 249380 | 266931 14 | 59:19.07 | 3:36.51 | 266932 | 283182 15 | 62:55.58 | 4:32.26 | 283183 | 303608 16 | 67:28.09 | 4:07.47 | 303609 | 322180 17 | 71:35.56 | 4:00.09 | 322181 | 340189 Track 17 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\17. I Travel.wav Peak level 97.7 % Copy CRC 896C151F Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [FD203DE5] Copy OK All tracks accurately ripped No errors occurred End of status report
I did a total of 4 rips in burst mode with the HP DVD 400c (including the above), and all of them returned confidence 10. The fourth and last rip is below.
So, Geynol was (again) on something when he suggested me to try EAC without C2. The HP DVD 400c does not have C2 reporting (like all BenQ drives), so I can not try that here.Code:Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 3 from 28. July 2007 EAC extraction logfile from 15. February 2008, 14:19 Simple Minds / The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1) Used drive : HP DVD Writer 400c Adapter: 1 ID: 0 Read mode : Burst Read offset correction : 1292 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : No Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000 Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track Used output format : User Defined Encoder Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s Quality : High Add ID3 tag : No Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 4:23.22 | 0 | 19746 2 | 4:23.22 | 3:58.62 | 19747 | 37658 3 | 8:22.09 | 4:51.27 | 37659 | 59510 4 | 13:13.36 | 5:26.46 | 59511 | 84006 5 | 18:40.07 | 4:00.15 | 84007 | 102021 6 | 22:40.22 | 4:18.23 | 102022 | 121394 7 | 26:58.45 | 4:59.11 | 121395 | 143830 8 | 31:57.56 | 4:34.64 | 143831 | 164444 9 | 36:32.45 | 4:46.70 | 164445 | 185964 10 | 41:19.40 | 4:07.01 | 185965 | 204490 11 | 45:26.41 | 4:05.74 | 204491 | 222939 12 | 49:32.40 | 5:52.40 | 222940 | 249379 13 | 55:25.05 | 3:54.02 | 249380 | 266931 14 | 59:19.07 | 3:36.51 | 266932 | 283182 15 | 62:55.58 | 4:32.26 | 283183 | 303608 16 | 67:28.09 | 4:07.47 | 303609 | 322180 17 | 71:35.56 | 4:00.09 | 322181 | 340189 Track 17 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\17. I Travel.wav Peak level 97.7 % Copy CRC 896C151F Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [FD203DE5] Copy OK All tracks accurately ripped No errors occurred End of status report
Also, remember that my PX-230A was in burst mode. It was an configuration error on my part, but without it I would probably would have missed this problem entirely. Probably it should stay in burst mode.
Finally, we have still not yet determined which version of the track is the "most correct" one, but I'll work on that soon.
Have fun...
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Hi again,
Now, of course, we want to know how EAC compare on the same setup.
While I was setting up and configuring dBpoweramp, I did a rip with EAC on the cd16. The rip took around 1h30, including two cooling periods of 10min.
This drive is usually pretty fast, but is bad on scratches. I basically retried every single block on the last third of the song.Code:Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 3 from 28. July 2007 EAC extraction logfile from 15. February 2008, 12:20 Simple Minds / The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1) Used drive : HP CD-Writer cd16b Adapter: 1 ID: 1 Read mode : Secure Utilize accurate stream : Yes Defeat audio cache : No Make use of C2 pointers : Yes Read offset correction : 12 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : No Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000 Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track Used output format : User Defined Encoder Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s Quality : High Add ID3 tag : No Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 4:23.22 | 0 | 19746 2 | 4:23.22 | 3:58.62 | 19747 | 37658 3 | 8:22.09 | 4:51.27 | 37659 | 59510 4 | 13:13.36 | 5:26.46 | 59511 | 84006 5 | 18:40.07 | 4:00.15 | 84007 | 102021 6 | 22:40.22 | 4:18.23 | 102022 | 121394 7 | 26:58.45 | 4:59.11 | 121395 | 143830 8 | 31:57.56 | 4:34.64 | 143831 | 164444 9 | 36:32.45 | 4:46.70 | 164445 | 185964 10 | 41:19.40 | 4:07.01 | 185965 | 204490 11 | 45:26.41 | 4:05.74 | 204491 | 222939 12 | 49:32.40 | 5:52.40 | 222940 | 249379 13 | 55:25.05 | 3:54.02 | 249380 | 266931 14 | 59:19.07 | 3:36.51 | 266932 | 283182 15 | 62:55.58 | 4:32.26 | 283183 | 303608 16 | 67:28.09 | 4:07.47 | 303609 | 322180 17 | 71:35.56 | 4:00.09 | 322181 | 340189 Track 1 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\01. Don't You (Forget About Me).wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 487A7195 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [9BA816FF] Copy OK Track 2 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\02. Promised You A Miracle.wav Peak level 85.0 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 9ED50EFF Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [36E7F92C] Copy OK Track 3 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\03. Waterfront.wav Peak level 98.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 68C00078 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [981E8F85] Copy OK Track 4 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\04. Alive And Kicking.wav Peak level 98.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC C07A94CE Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [D44EAE69] Copy OK Track 5 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\05. Glittering Prize.wav Peak level 92.2 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 500E2E66 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [75297EFD] Copy OK Track 6 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\06. All The Things She Said.wav Peak level 98.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC A5FD6BCD Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [AF6E4CFA] Copy OK Track 7 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\07. Sanctify Yourself.wav Peak level 98.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 152B3E6E Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [ACA7B957] Copy OK Track 8 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\08. Someone Somewhere (In Summertime).wav Peak level 98.8 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 44A22C24 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [E61310B5] Copy OK Track 9 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\09. Ghostdancing.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 66667583 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [AA0CCA71] Copy OK Track 10 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\10. Up On The Catwalk.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 99.9 % Copy CRC B2586CED Accurately ripped (confidence 12) [2B15E393] Copy OK Track 11 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\11. Speed Your Love To Me.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 5739A736 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [479AB79D] Copy OK Track 12 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\12. Theme For Great Cities.wav Peak level 98.8 % Track quality 99.9 % Copy CRC 0DB88A31 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [BF21FE4C] Copy OK Track 13 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\13. Love Song.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 8AEB8312 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [B9D17FF5] Copy OK Track 14 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\14. The American.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC C7AE4268 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [EF37DE1A] Copy OK Track 15 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\15. Sweat In Bullet.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 6B09BC57 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [F6EFB38C] Copy OK Track 16 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\16. Life In A Day.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC A1904F56 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [72453766] Copy OK Track 17 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\17. I Travel.wav Suspicious position 0:03:22 Suspicious position 0:03:24 Suspicious position 0:03:26 - 0:03:59 Peak level 100.0 % Track quality 90.4 % Copy CRC B89B86C9 Cannot be verified as accurate (confidence 4) [2114987C], AccurateRip returned [FC233DE5] Copy finished 16 track(s) accurately ripped 1 track(s) could not be verified as accurate Some tracks could not be verified as accurate There were errors End of status report
Let's move to the HP DVD 400c. Remember that I already ripped on that drive (it was the very first rip I did), and that I found confidence 4 back then. Let's try another rip.
Confidence 4 again !Code:Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 3 from 28. July 2007 EAC extraction logfile from 15. February 2008, 14:07 Simple Minds / The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1) Used drive : HP DVD Writer 400c Adapter: 1 ID: 0 Read mode : Secure Utilize accurate stream : Yes Defeat audio cache : Yes Make use of C2 pointers : No Read offset correction : 1292 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : No Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000 Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track Used output format : User Defined Encoder Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s Quality : High Add ID3 tag : No Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 4:23.22 | 0 | 19746 2 | 4:23.22 | 3:58.62 | 19747 | 37658 3 | 8:22.09 | 4:51.27 | 37659 | 59510 4 | 13:13.36 | 5:26.46 | 59511 | 84006 5 | 18:40.07 | 4:00.15 | 84007 | 102021 6 | 22:40.22 | 4:18.23 | 102022 | 121394 7 | 26:58.45 | 4:59.11 | 121395 | 143830 8 | 31:57.56 | 4:34.64 | 143831 | 164444 9 | 36:32.45 | 4:46.70 | 164445 | 185964 10 | 41:19.40 | 4:07.01 | 185965 | 204490 11 | 45:26.41 | 4:05.74 | 204491 | 222939 12 | 49:32.40 | 5:52.40 | 222940 | 249379 13 | 55:25.05 | 3:54.02 | 249380 | 266931 14 | 59:19.07 | 3:36.51 | 266932 | 283182 15 | 62:55.58 | 4:32.26 | 283183 | 303608 16 | 67:28.09 | 4:07.47 | 303609 | 322180 17 | 71:35.56 | 4:00.09 | 322181 | 340189 Track 16 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\16. Life In A Day.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC A1904F56 Accurately ripped (confidence 13) [72453766] Copy OK Track 17 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\17. I Travel.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 99.9 % Copy CRC 6CC43F51 Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [FC233DE5] Copy OK All tracks accurately ripped No errors occurred End of status report
I did a total of 4 rips on that drive today (so 5 if we include the very first one), and every single one of them is showing confidence 4. This is my fourth and last rip.
This drive is *very* consistent.Code:Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 3 from 28. July 2007 EAC extraction logfile from 15. February 2008, 14:16 Simple Minds / The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1) Used drive : HP DVD Writer 400c Adapter: 1 ID: 0 Read mode : Secure Utilize accurate stream : Yes Defeat audio cache : Yes Make use of C2 pointers : No Read offset correction : 1292 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : No Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000 Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track Used output format : User Defined Encoder Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s Quality : High Add ID3 tag : No Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE Additional command line options : -6 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 4:23.22 | 0 | 19746 2 | 4:23.22 | 3:58.62 | 19747 | 37658 3 | 8:22.09 | 4:51.27 | 37659 | 59510 4 | 13:13.36 | 5:26.46 | 59511 | 84006 5 | 18:40.07 | 4:00.15 | 84007 | 102021 6 | 22:40.22 | 4:18.23 | 102022 | 121394 7 | 26:58.45 | 4:59.11 | 121395 | 143830 8 | 31:57.56 | 4:34.64 | 143831 | 164444 9 | 36:32.45 | 4:46.70 | 164445 | 185964 10 | 41:19.40 | 4:07.01 | 185965 | 204490 11 | 45:26.41 | 4:05.74 | 204491 | 222939 12 | 49:32.40 | 5:52.40 | 222940 | 249379 13 | 55:25.05 | 3:54.02 | 249380 | 266931 14 | 59:19.07 | 3:36.51 | 266932 | 283182 15 | 62:55.58 | 4:32.26 | 283183 | 303608 16 | 67:28.09 | 4:07.47 | 303609 | 322180 17 | 71:35.56 | 4:00.09 | 322181 | 340189 Track 17 Filename C:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The Best Of Simple Minds (Disc 1)\17. I Travel.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 99.9 % Copy CRC 6CC43F51 Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [FC233DE5] Copy OK All tracks accurately ripped No errors occurred End of status report
<More EAC to follow, stay tuned>.
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Hi all,
I've got some interesting new information. But let's start with a raw dump of data, as people may always find bits in there that I may have missed.
I decided to try a few rips at work. My work PC is different, single P4 instead of dual, different drives, different EAC version, same XP-SP2 though. I installed dBpowerAmp R12.4 on this box.
I plugged in my old HP cd16 (a LG GCE-8160B clone) that I was considering for ripping a while ago, before discovering that it was not good enough.
The other drive is the HP DVD 400c (a BenQ dw800a clone) that you have seen in action earlier.
I launched a first rip with the cd16 and dbpower amp and went for luch. When I came back from luch, the PC was dead. No BSOD, just black screen. After a reboot, I was able to get the following log :
Basically, this drive is bad.Code:dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, February 15, 2008 12:29 PM Drive & Settings ---------------- Ripping with drive 'E: [HP - CD-Writer cd16b ]', Drive offset: 12, Overread Lead-in/out: No AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: None, FUA Cache Invalidate: No Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 3, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 2 Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34 Encoder: FLAC -compression-level-8 Extraction Log -------------- Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 19747 (4:23) in 0:23. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 01 - Don't You (Forget About Me).flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 6715044E Track 2: Ripped LBA 19747 to 37659 (3:58) in 0:25. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 02 - Promised You a Miracle.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 63DBC412 Track 3: Ripped LBA 37659 to 59511 (4:51) in 0:26. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 03 - Waterfront.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: E4B6EA46 Track 4: Ripped LBA 59511 to 84007 (5:26) in 0:35. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 04 - Alive and Kicking.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 0BF98841 Track 5: Ripped LBA 84007 to 102022 (4:00) in 0:27. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 05 - Glittering Prize.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 9BB254A6 Track 6: Ripped LBA 102022 to 121395 (4:18) in 0:25. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 06 - All the Things She Said.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: B32BE33A Track 7: Ripped LBA 121395 to 143831 (4:59) in 0:32. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 07 - Sanctify Yourself.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 678621CD Track 8: Ripped LBA 143831 to 164445 (4:34) in 0:35. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 08 - Someone Somewhere (In Summertime).flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 6DD3829C Track 9: Ripped LBA 164445 to 185965 (4:46) in 0:31. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 09 - Ghostdancing.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: B9318C74 Track 10: Ripped LBA 185965 to 204491 (4:07) in 0:27. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 10 - Up on the Catwalk.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 12) [Pass 1] CRC32: 085C2B5A Track 11: Ripped LBA 204491 to 222940 (4:05) in 0:25. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 11 - Speed Your Love to Me.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 71BFDB0F Track 12: Ripped LBA 222940 to 249380 (5:52) in 0:34. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 12 - Theme for Great Cities.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: DEB9833A Track 13: Ripped LBA 249380 to 266932 (3:54) in 0:28. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 13 - Love Song.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 8EE87DA5 Track 14: Ripped LBA 266932 to 283183 (3:36) in 0:22. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 14 - The American.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 20527E87 Track 15: Ripped LBA 283183 to 303609 (4:32) in 0:28. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 15 - Sweat in Bullet.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 72F6D59E Track 16: Ripped LBA 303609 to 322181 (4:07) in 2:50. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 16 - Life in a Day.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3, Re-Rip 25 Frames] CRC32: E21DFC83 Re-rip Frame: 306268 (00:00:35.453) matched 10 / 11 (c2 dropped 2) Re-rip Frame: 306269 (00:00:35.466) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 306953 (00:00:44.586) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 306954 (00:00:44.600) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 307895 (00:00:57.146) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 307917 (00:00:57.440) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 307918 (00:00:57.453) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 307938 (00:00:57.720) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 308839 (00:01:09.733) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 308840 (00:01:09.746) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 311182 (00:01:40.973) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 311183 (00:01:40.986) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 311203 (00:01:41.253) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 314288 (00:02:22.386) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 314289 (00:02:22.400) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 314332 (00:02:22.973) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 315239 (00:02:35.066) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 318948 (00:03:24.520) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 318970 (00:03:24.813) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 318971 (00:03:24.826) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 319013 (00:03:25.386) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 319014 (00:03:25.400) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 319035 (00:03:25.680) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 320297 (00:03:42.506) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 321517 (00:03:58.773) matched 10 / 11
Now, let's try the HP DVD 400c.
Confidence 10. Good.Code:dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, February 15, 2008 1:50 PM Drive & Settings ---------------- Ripping with drive 'D: [HP - DVD Writer 400c ]', Drive offset: 1292, Overread Lead-in/out: No AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: No, Cache: 4 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 3, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 2 Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34 Encoder: FLAC -compression-level-8 Extraction Log -------------- Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 19747 (4:23) in 0:17. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 01 - Don't You (Forget About Me).flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 6715044E Track 2: Ripped LBA 19747 to 37659 (3:58) in 0:12. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 02 - Promised You a Miracle.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 63DBC412 Track 3: Ripped LBA 37659 to 59511 (4:51) in 0:12. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 03 - Waterfront.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: E4B6EA46 Track 4: Ripped LBA 59511 to 84007 (5:26) in 0:12. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 04 - Alive and Kicking.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 0BF98841 Track 5: Ripped LBA 84007 to 102022 (4:00) in 0:09. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 05 - Glittering Prize.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 9BB254A6 Track 6: Ripped LBA 102022 to 121395 (4:18) in 0:08. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 06 - All the Things She Said.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: B32BE33A Track 7: Ripped LBA 121395 to 143831 (4:59) in 0:10. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 07 - Sanctify Yourself.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 678621CD Track 8: Ripped LBA 143831 to 164445 (4:34) in 0:08. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 08 - Someone Somewhere (In Summertime).flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 6DD3829C Track 9: Ripped LBA 164445 to 185965 (4:46) in 0:09. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 09 - Ghostdancing.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: B9318C74 Track 10: Ripped LBA 185965 to 204491 (4:07) in 0:07. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 10 - Up on the Catwalk.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 12) [Pass 1] CRC32: 085C2B5A Track 11: Ripped LBA 204491 to 222940 (4:05) in 0:07. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 11 - Speed Your Love to Me.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 71BFDB0F Track 12: Ripped LBA 222940 to 249380 (5:52) in 0:09. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 12 - Theme for Great Cities.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: DEB9833A Track 13: Ripped LBA 249380 to 266932 (3:54) in 0:06. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 13 - Love Song.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 8EE87DA5 Track 14: Ripped LBA 266932 to 283183 (3:36) in 0:05. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 14 - The American.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 20527E87 Track 15: Ripped LBA 283183 to 303609 (4:32) in 0:07. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 15 - Sweat in Bullet.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 72F6D59E Track 16: Ripped LBA 303609 to 322181 (4:07) in 0:05. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 16 - Life in a Day.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: E21DFC83 Track 17: Ripped LBA 322181 to 340190 (4:00) in 0:06. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 17 - I Travel.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [Pass 1] CRC32: 951F067A -------------- 17 Tracks Ripped Accurately
I did 7 rip total with dBpowerAmp and the HP DVD 400c, and I always got the same result. For example, this is the 7th and last rip.
That's pretty good.Code:dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Friday, February 15, 2008 2:03 PM Drive & Settings ---------------- Ripping with drive 'D: [HP - DVD Writer 400c ]', Drive offset: 1292, Overread Lead-in/out: No AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: No, Cache: 4 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 3, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 2 Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34 Encoder: FLAC -compression-level-8 Extraction Log -------------- Track 17: Ripped LBA 322181 to 340190 (4:00) in 0:08. Filename: C:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 17 - I Travel.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [Pass 1] CRC32: 951F067A -------------- 1 Tracks Ripped Accurately
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JeanLeave a comment:
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
To be fair to EAC (and if you have the inclanation), rip 6 times in dBpoweramp with the c2 off and check that it never show the confidence 4 on the liteon.Leave a comment:
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Hmm...is the issue that the bad (but matching) rips are being submitted from EAC, not dbpa?
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
>Lastly, I am concerned that dBpa is telling you that bad rips are secure when using C2 pointers with your Lite-On.
We are seeing a CD with errors right at the end of the track, the occasion when dBpoweramp failed to rip the track:
Yes the error got past c2 pointer, and was consistant on 5 passes! perhaps c3 is not great on the Lite-on. Those frames which were re-ripped, they might not have been the ones that had the error.Track 17: Ripped LBA 322181 to 340190 (4:00) in 0:46. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 17 - I Travel.flac
AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 4) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3, Re-Rip 5 Frames]
CRC32: A99AA633
Re-rip Frame: 336063 (00:03:05.093) matched 10 / 14
Re-rip Frame: 336174 (00:03:06.573) matched 10 / 14
Re-rip Frame: 336684 (00:03:13.373) matched 10 / 14
Re-rip Frame: 336685 (00:03:13.386) matched 10 / 14
Re-rip Frame: 336795 (00:03:14.853) matched 10 / 14
For you to debug the EAC issue, if you can supply 2 wave files to Andre, one with the confidence 10 the other confidence 4, looking at the data he might know what is happening. This is an issue that needs looking into (as 4 other people had the same issue, and must be using EAC).Leave a comment:
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Hi Jean, Spoon, Brendan, Eli and whoever else I know from Hydrogenaudio and/or Digital-Inn.
This situation with EAC is pretty interesting. I'm curious to know what happens when you disable C2 pointers in EAC. When this is done, EAC will ask the drive to access different points within a track. It might also be worthwhile to try the rip in burst mode. Maybe one of these changes will make a difference(?).
Quick explanation (hopefully):
[size=1]Without C2 pointers, EAC reads 27 sectors at a time until 2MB is read and then goes back and does it again. The next pair of 2MB sets will begin with the last 2 sectors of the previous pair for synchronization purposes. With C2 pointers, EAC reads 24 sectors at a time until 2MB is read and then moves on to the next set of 2MB beginning with the last 2 sectors (again for synchronization purposes). If cache flushing is enabled, EAC will read another 2MB prior to moving on to the next 2MB in order to make sure the 2 sectors used for synchronization are read from the disc (with or without the use of C2 pointers).[/size]
My limited understanding of dBpoweramp is that all passes (including ultra-secure) are done in burst mode and that no additional synchronization is used.
Lastly, I am concerned that dBpa is telling you that bad rips are secure when using C2 pointers with your Lite-On. This implies that you're getting consistent errors which are not being dropped by C2 pointers. It should not be behaving this way. I was also going to add that it should be safe to increase the maximum number of re-reads when using C2 pointers, but now have reservations in light this issue.Leave a comment:
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Hi again,
I know that the error comes and go, so I decided to do a few more rips with EAC to see if I could get it to reproduce.
Second EAC Lite-On rip :
Ok, Confidence 10, I like it. So the Lite-On is capable of getting the right track with EAC after all.Code:Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008 EAC extraction logfile from 14. February 2008, 22:30 Simple Minds / The best of (CD 1) Used drive : LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1P Adapter: 3 ID: 0 Read mode : Secure Utilize accurate stream : Yes Defeat audio cache : Yes Make use of C2 pointers : Yes Read offset correction : 6 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : No Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000 Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track Used output format : User Defined Encoder Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s Quality : High Add ID3 tag : No Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 4:23.22 | 0 | 19746 2 | 4:23.22 | 3:58.62 | 19747 | 37658 3 | 8:22.09 | 4:51.27 | 37659 | 59510 4 | 13:13.36 | 5:26.46 | 59511 | 84006 5 | 18:40.07 | 4:00.15 | 84007 | 102021 6 | 22:40.22 | 4:18.23 | 102022 | 121394 7 | 26:58.45 | 4:59.11 | 121395 | 143830 8 | 31:57.56 | 4:34.64 | 143831 | 164444 9 | 36:32.45 | 4:46.70 | 164445 | 185964 10 | 41:19.40 | 4:07.01 | 185965 | 204490 11 | 45:26.41 | 4:05.74 | 204491 | 222939 12 | 49:32.40 | 5:52.40 | 222940 | 249379 13 | 55:25.05 | 3:54.02 | 249380 | 266931 14 | 59:19.07 | 3:36.51 | 266932 | 283182 15 | 62:55.58 | 4:32.26 | 283183 | 303608 16 | 67:28.09 | 4:07.47 | 303609 | 322180 17 | 71:35.56 | 4:00.09 | 322181 | 340189 Track 17 Filename F:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The best of (CD 1)\17. I travel.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 99.8 % Copy CRC 896C151F Accurately ripped (confidence 10) [FD203DE5] Copy OK All tracks accurately ripped No errors occurred End of status report
Let's try another rip...
Ouch ! Confidence 4 again.Code:Exact Audio Copy V0.99 prebeta 4 from 23. January 2008 EAC extraction logfile from 14. February 2008, 22:32 Simple Minds / The best of (CD 1) Used drive : LITE-ON DVDRW LH-20A1P Adapter: 3 ID: 0 Read mode : Secure Utilize accurate stream : Yes Defeat audio cache : Yes Make use of C2 pointers : Yes Read offset correction : 6 Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No Null samples used in CRC calculations : No Used interface : Native Win32 interface for Win NT & 2000 Gap handling : Not detected, thus appended to previous track Used output format : User Defined Encoder Selected bitrate : 768 kBit/s Quality : High Add ID3 tag : No Command line compressor : C:\Program Files\Exact Audio Copy\FLAC\FLAC.EXE Additional command line options : -8 -V -T "ARTIST=%a" -T "TITLE=%t" -T "ALBUM=%g" -T "DATE=%y" -T "TRACKNUMBER=%n" -T "GENRE=%m" -T "COMMENT=%e" %s -o %d TOC of the extracted CD Track | Start | Length | Start sector | End sector --------------------------------------------------------- 1 | 0:00.00 | 4:23.22 | 0 | 19746 2 | 4:23.22 | 3:58.62 | 19747 | 37658 3 | 8:22.09 | 4:51.27 | 37659 | 59510 4 | 13:13.36 | 5:26.46 | 59511 | 84006 5 | 18:40.07 | 4:00.15 | 84007 | 102021 6 | 22:40.22 | 4:18.23 | 102022 | 121394 7 | 26:58.45 | 4:59.11 | 121395 | 143830 8 | 31:57.56 | 4:34.64 | 143831 | 164444 9 | 36:32.45 | 4:46.70 | 164445 | 185964 10 | 41:19.40 | 4:07.01 | 185965 | 204490 11 | 45:26.41 | 4:05.74 | 204491 | 222939 12 | 49:32.40 | 5:52.40 | 222940 | 249379 13 | 55:25.05 | 3:54.02 | 249380 | 266931 14 | 59:19.07 | 3:36.51 | 266932 | 283182 15 | 62:55.58 | 4:32.26 | 283183 | 303608 16 | 67:28.09 | 4:07.47 | 303609 | 322180 17 | 71:35.56 | 4:00.09 | 322181 | 340189 Track 17 Filename F:\Music-FLAC\Simple Minds\2001-The best of (CD 1)\17. I travel.wav Peak level 97.7 % Track quality 100.0 % Copy CRC 6CC43F51 Accurately ripped (confidence 4) [FC233DE5] Copy OK All tracks accurately ripped No errors occurred End of status report
dBPowerAmp : 14 rips, never happens
EAC : 3 rips, happen twice.
Hmm... Interesting. I think I've now changed my mind about what's could be the cause here. You guys were definitely right to push me around ;-)
I guess we need to get Andre to comment on the subject.
Good night everybody...
JeanLeave a comment:
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
Hi again,
I managed to get dBpoweramp installed and configured. Note that I disabled FUA as I read somewhere that the the Lite-On did not work with FUA.
I did 11 rips before a set of EAC rips and 2 after. That's a huge set of logs, so I'll pick a few...
Very first rip.
Congratulation, we have confidence 10 and no errors detected.Code:dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:06 PM Drive & Settings ---------------- Ripping with drive 'D: [LITE-ON - DVDRW LH-20A1P ]', Drive offset: 6, Overread Lead-in/out: No AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 663 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 3, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 2 Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34 Encoder: FLAC -compression-level-8 -verify Extraction Log -------------- Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 19747 (4:23) in 0:15. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 01 - Don't You (Forget About Me).flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 6715044E Track 2: Ripped LBA 19747 to 37659 (3:58) in 0:09. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 02 - Promised You a Miracle.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 63DBC412 Track 3: Ripped LBA 37659 to 59511 (4:51) in 0:11. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 03 - Waterfront.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: E4B6EA46 Track 4: Ripped LBA 59511 to 84007 (5:26) in 0:11. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 04 - Alive and Kicking.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 0BF98841 Track 5: Ripped LBA 84007 to 102022 (4:00) in 0:08. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 05 - Glittering Prize.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 9BB254A6 Track 6: Ripped LBA 102022 to 121395 (4:18) in 0:08. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 06 - All the Things She Said.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: B32BE33A Track 7: Ripped LBA 121395 to 143831 (4:59) in 0:08. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 07 - Sanctify Yourself.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 678621CD Track 8: Ripped LBA 143831 to 164445 (4:34) in 0:08. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 08 - Someone Somewhere (In Summertime).flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 6DD3829C Track 9: Ripped LBA 164445 to 185965 (4:46) in 0:07. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 09 - Ghostdancing.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: B9318C74 Track 10: Ripped LBA 185965 to 204491 (4:07) in 0:06. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 10 - Up on the Catwalk.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 12) [Pass 1] CRC32: 085C2B5A Track 11: Ripped LBA 204491 to 222940 (4:05) in 0:06. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 11 - Speed Your Love to Me.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 71BFDB0F Track 12: Ripped LBA 222940 to 249380 (5:52) in 0:08. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 12 - Theme for Great Cities.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: DEB9833A Track 13: Ripped LBA 249380 to 266932 (3:54) in 0:05. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 13 - Love Song.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 8EE87DA5 Track 14: Ripped LBA 266932 to 283183 (3:36) in 0:05. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 14 - The American.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 20527E87 Track 15: Ripped LBA 283183 to 303609 (4:32) in 0:06. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 15 - Sweat in Bullet.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: 72F6D59E Track 16: Ripped LBA 303609 to 322181 (4:07) in 0:05. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 16 - Life in a Day.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 13) [Pass 1] CRC32: E21DFC83 Track 17: Ripped LBA 322181 to 340190 (4:00) in 0:05. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 17 - I Travel.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [Pass 1] CRC32: 951F067A -------------- 17 Tracks Ripped Accurately
Let's try a second rip.
This time, we needed UltraSecure, but got confidence 10.Code:dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:12 PM Drive & Settings ---------------- Ripping with drive 'D: [LITE-ON - DVDRW LH-20A1P ]', Drive offset: 6, Overread Lead-in/out: No AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 663 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 3, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 2 Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34 Encoder: FLAC -compression-level-8 -verify Extraction Log -------------- Track 17: Ripped LBA 322181 to 340190 (4:00) in 0:25. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 17 - I Travel.flac AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 10) [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3, Re-Rip 2 Frames] CRC32: 951F067A Re-rip Frame: 335109 (00:02:52.373) matched 10 / 11 Re-rip Frame: 335110 (00:02:52.386) matched 10 / 11 -------------- 1 Tracks Ripped Accurately
Another try.
Ok, we can't always get a secure rip but at least we know there is an error.Code:dBpoweramp Release 12.4 Digital Audio Extraction Log from Thursday, February 14, 2008 10:14 PM Drive & Settings ---------------- Ripping with drive 'D: [LITE-ON - DVDRW LH-20A1P ]', Drive offset: 6, Overread Lead-in/out: No AccurateRip: Active, Using C2: Yes, Cache: 663 KB, FUA Cache Invalidate: No Pass 1 Drive Speed: Max, Pass 2 Drive Speed: Max Ultra:: Vary Drive Speed: No, Min Passes: 3, Max Passes: 6, Finish After Clean Passes: 2 Bad Sector Re-rip:: Drive Speed: Max, Maximum Re-reads: 34 Encoder: FLAC -compression-level-8 -verify Extraction Log -------------- Track 17: Ripped LBA 322181 to 340190 (4:00) in 0:46. Filename: F:\Music-dBamp\Simple Minds\Simple Minds - The Best of Simple Minds Disc 1 - 17 - I Travel.flac AccurateRip: Inaccurate (confidence 4) Secure (Warning) [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3, Re-Rip 5 Frames] CRC32: A99AA633 Re-rip Frame: 336063 (00:03:05.093) matched 10 / 14 Re-rip Frame: 336174 (00:03:06.573) matched 10 / 14 Re-rip Frame: 336684 (00:03:13.373) matched 10 / 14 Re-rip Frame: 336685 (00:03:13.386) matched 10 / 14 Re-rip Frame: 336795 (00:03:14.853) matched 10 / 14 -------------- 1 Tracks Ripped Securely (Warning: sectors had to be re-ripped) (AccurateRip: Different Pressing?)
All the other rips alternate between those 3 cases :
I had :
no-error, confidence 10 : 1,6,9,14
errors, confidence 10 : 2,5,7,8,10,11,12,13
errors, innacurate : 3,4
The CRC in rip 3 and 4 are differents. The number of errors is different, rip 5 has 9 re-rips. But at least, I did not see the dreaded "confidence 4".
Ok, I'll call that a success.
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JeanLeave a comment:
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Re: Peculiar AcurateRip result
I think we should blacklist all drives except for the Plextor PX-230A.
I've seen undetected errors with my Lite-On and my Samsung, so we should ban all Mediatek based drives, which means all Lite-On/Samsung/ASUS. I've seen this type of errors with my old BenQ and my old LG, so we should ban all BenQ (except the PX-230A) and all LG. Pioneer don't report C2, so we should ban that as well. What's left ?
Seriously, I think the situation is not as bad as it looks. By looking at the AR log, it's obvious when this happens. Also, in 99% of cases, my Lite-On gives proper results. You want as many tracks as possible in the AR database. And I think we may be able to narrow down when this happens.
Have fun...
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