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  • rjcrum

    • Mar 2014
    • 27
    #1

    Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

    Hi,

    I just bought a Synology NAS (running DSM 5.2-5967 Update 9) and installed Asset R6.4 (registered) on it, but have two questions about Jukebox Album selection.

    1. When I initially installed and configured Asset, and then chose (from an Onkyo TX-8140 network receiver) Genre:Classical:Jukebox Album Selection, I was presented with a list of just 10 albums. I have thousands of "albums" in my classical collection (where an "album" equates to a "work" as in the "album" of Beethoven Symphony *5 (four movements)). Anyway, no matter what I did, Asset would only return 10 albums. On a lark, I changed the configuration "Dynamic Playlist Item Count" from the default of 100 to 400. Now Asset is returning 40 albums! So, other than the obvious deduction that the Dynamic Playlist number, when divided by 10, gives you the number of albums that Asset will return for a Jukebox Album selection...is this how it's supposed to work?

    2. And, the list of "jukebox" albums that are returned are always alphabetized, which is totally weird. It means that all "Concertos" that happen to be in the list play one after the other, while all the "Symphonies" that are in the list also play one after the other. I like my Classical random listening to be a bit more random! Does Asset alphabetize a Jukebox Album selection playlist before handing off to the player? Is there a setting that will truly randomize the playlist?

    In general, there seems to be very little documentation that I can find on DLNA that describes the interaction between, in this case, Asset and my Onkyo receiver when it comes specifically to "Random" and "Repeat" functions.

    The receiver has a "random" button. Would that randomize the list Asset returns?

    Thanks,
    Bob
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    • Spoon
      Administrator
      • Apr 2002
      • 44407
      #2
      Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

      This is correct the album count returned is that number / 10.

      Asset does not sort the returned list, your control point (or player) will be doing so, for me the list is unsorted and random.
      Spoon
      www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • rjcrum

          • Mar 2014
          • 27
          #3
          Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

          Coming back to this post three years later!

          I will first have to admit that I am not a DLNA expert by any means. But I'm in the process of upgrading my home music library (new Synology NAS, new dedicated player, different software) but I will still be using Asset UPnP on Synology.

          As stated before, I want to have "Jukebox Album Selection" play back in a truly random fashion. After re-ripping all my CDs in FLAC (I first did them in MP3 19 years ago), putting the music on a Synology NAS running Asset, and using MP3Tag to check and recheck all the metadata, I'm in the home stretch.

          However, on two different player platforms (Player Extreme on iOS, Roku Media Player on Roku) the list of albums generated by Asset using Genre:Classical and "Jukebox Album Selection" comes back as a sorted list. Based on Spoon's respons from three years ago, I thought I'd try my own sleuthing.

          I turned on Logging in the Synology Asset, then used Player Extreme on my iPad to request Jukebox Album Selection from Genre:Classical. Looking at the log files, I saw three main sections that followed my request (see below for the log file output):

          ---A section with a whole bunch of ContainerAddToCache entries, that were apparently the 20 random albums that were selected. These selections appeared to be in a really random order. I was excited!
          ---The next section was "Folders" and it, too, listed the 20 random albums....but they were sorted alphabetically by album name! I was dismayed.
          ---The next section was labeled "Tracks" and as far as I can tell, it was a rehash of the "Folders" section, but with all sorts of additional HTML around the album names. Of course, they were sorted in alphabetically by album name.

          So, contrary to what Spoon said three years ago (sorry, Spoon!!!), it appears that the "random" list of results is sorted by Asset before being returned to the player. That's why I'm getting alphabetical-by-album-name results from multiple clients for the same random-album-by-genre request made to Asset.

          THerefore, I ask again, is there a way to add a configuration capability to Asset, among the jillions that are already there, which allows you to specify a way of sorting...or NOT sorting...the results of a Jukebox Album selection? Or, just tweak the results so that a Jukebox-Random-Album/Track request is returned in a truly random fashion? Again, the series of ContainerAddToCache entries appear to be truly random.

          THanks,
          Bob

          =========================Log File Excerpt Follows================================


          =============================================
          [10:06:41]
          [10:06:41] OnBrowseDirectChildren::object_id: co5BA7AB908DD6CC2E
          [10:06:41] ControlPoint: PlayerXtreme/8.9.3 CFNetwork/1335.0.3 Darwin/21.6.0
          [10:06:41] ContainerLong: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection
          [10:06:41] SQL: (t_genre=5))
          [10:06:41] DIDL Cache Key: PlayerXtreme/8.9.3 CFNetwork/1335.0.3 Darwin/21.6.0 :: 192.168.7.153 :: 192.168.7.161
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Brandenberg Concerto No. 6, BWV 1051 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=18)))] [Seg: 0x59E2638CDE47D6EF]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Mass in B minor :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=25)))] [Seg: 0xEB7EB5C35146220C]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Suite No. 3, in D major, BWV 1068 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=30)))] [Seg: 0xDE451699F465F08E]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Guitar Concerto No. 1 in D major, Op. 99 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=127)))] [Seg: 0x73501D8BBD4F5FDA]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Falstaff :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=239)))] [Seg: 0x3756EAEB91F5977F]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Water Music Suite No. 1 in F, HWV 348 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=330)))] [Seg: 0x8BCB0273E7A5C0E2]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: already exists La Fille mal gardée :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=342)))] [Seg: 0x65F7F6CF288BA97E]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Lyric Movement for Viola and Chamber Orchestra, H191 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=353)))] [Seg: 0x2AFA3C48B22AC3F1]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Symphony No. 1 in D Major :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=448)))] [Seg: 0x4B1ADFE1138655D2]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Symphony No. 3 in D minor :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=450)))] [Seg: 0x1D7196FF6AC063BF]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Symphony No. 6 ("Gettysburg") :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=517)))] [Seg: 0xC32122CCABC1EF5]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added 6 Sinfonie di Concerto Grosso :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=632)))] [Seg: 0xEDA1DFF4E1427E4A]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Symphony No. 5 in B flat major, D. 485 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=636)))] [Seg: 0x2EE3A7C1EB059657]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: already exists Carnival, Op. 9 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=640)))] [Seg: 0xE717DDEB9DEBD49]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: already exists Kinderszenen (Scenes from Childhood) :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=642)))] [Seg: 0xB242FE2CFA374663]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Eine Alpensinfonie, Op. 64 "An Alpine Symphony" (Separate movements) :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=674)))] [Seg: 0x47D9CE3399C9C200]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Pulcinella Suite :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=681)))] [Seg: 0x52284F32C3D66C11]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Korngold: Violin Concerto in D Major, Op. 35 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=804)))] [Seg: 0x43746ED58CB620BA]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Symphony No. 11 in a minor "The Winter" op.214 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=891)))] [Seg: 0xA87223C6D862587B]
          [10:06:41] ContainerAddToCache: added Concert 9 - June 6, 2009 :: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\ [SQL: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=901)))] [Seg: 0xDAAF8352BA7351C5]

          ========================FOLDERS==================
          6 Sinfonie di Concerto Grosso: co1948: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=632))):
          Brandenberg Concerto No. 6, BWV 1051: co88: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=18))):
          Carnival, Op. 9: co958: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=640))):
          Concert 9 - June 6, 2009: co1111: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=901))):
          Eine Alpensinfonie, Op. 64 "An Alpine Symphony" (Separate movements): co1397: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=674))):
          Falstaff: co639: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=239))):
          Guitar Concerto No. 1 in D major, Op. 99: co1863: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=127))):
          Kinderszenen (Scenes from Childhood): co698: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=642))):
          Korngold: Violin Concerto in D Major, Op. 35: co1186: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=804))):
          La Fille mal gardée: co690: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=342))): La Fille mal gardee
          Lyric Movement for Viola and Chamber Orchestra, H191: co641: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=353))):
          Mass in B minor: co730: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=25))):
          Pulcinella Suite: co1239: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=681))):
          Suite No. 3, in D major, BWV 1068: co317: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=30))):
          Symphony No. 1 in D Major: co313: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=448))):
          Symphony No. 3 in D minor: co384: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=450))):
          Symphony No. 5 in B flat major, D. 485: co274: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=636))):
          Symphony No. 6 ("Gettysburg"): co1247: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=517))):
          Symphony No. 11 in a minor "The Winter" op.214: co1830: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=891))):
          Water Music Suite No. 1 in F, HWV 348: co828: 0\Genre\Jukebox Album Selection\: ((t_genre=5)) AND (t_album=330))):

          ========================TRACKS==================

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            • Spoon
              Administrator
              • Apr 2002
              • 44407
              #4
              Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

              Bug confirmed, will be fixed on next release.
              Spoon
              www.dbpoweramp.com

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                • rjcrum

                  • Mar 2014
                  • 27
                  #5
                  Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

                  Originally posted by Spoon
                  Bug confirmed, will be fixed on next release.
                  Hallelujah!!!

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                    • rjcrum

                      • Mar 2014
                      • 27
                      #6
                      Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

                      Originally posted by rjcrum
                      Hallelujah!!!
                      Actually, Spoon...any idea when the next Synology release will come out? I just got my new Wiim Pro, and I feel like my music options just multiplied. I'd like to have the last piece finished, namely truly random Jukebox Album Selection.

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                        • Spoon
                          Administrator
                          • Apr 2002
                          • 44407
                          #7
                          Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

                          Not too far off
                          Spoon
                          www.dbpoweramp.com

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                            • rjcrum

                              • Mar 2014
                              • 27
                              #8
                              Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

                              Originally posted by Spoon
                              Not too far off
                              Thanks. Good to hear!

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                                • rjcrum

                                  • Mar 2014
                                  • 27
                                  #9
                                  Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

                                  Spoon&*8230;any update on the next release of Asset that will solve this random-album-play bug? I&*8217;m itching for the fix.

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                                    • Spoon
                                      Administrator
                                      • Apr 2002
                                      • 44407
                                      #10
                                      Re: Jukebox Album selection/sorting on Synology

                                      Will release next
                                      Spoon
                                      www.dbpoweramp.com

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