Local Freedb Errors

[max]

Hi Guys,
In these days I have to rip 200 CD's and i don't want to stay always connected to the Internet (for the album track info) so i download and install the offline freedb Database (freedb-win-20050104.rar).
With some CD i experience some problem in CD Recognition (i receive wrong artist/title information). For a test I try to go to the online database at freedb.freedb.org and..... the title from the Internet is ok.
I try also with other rippers (like aud*o*r*b*er) and the behavior is the same.
Is an offline database problem or the problem is in the search algorithm for the offline database?

[ChristinaS]

Hi Guys,
In these days I have to rip 200 CD's and i don't want to stay always connected to the Internet (for the album track info) so i download and install the offline freedb Database (freedb-win-20050104.rar).
With some CD i experience some problem in CD Recognition (i receive wrong artist/title information). For a test I try to go to the online database at freedb.freedb.org and..... the title from the Internet is ok.
I try also with other rippers (like aud*o*r*b*er) and the behavior is the same.
Is an offline database problem or the problem is in the search algorithm for the offline database?
Either the offline database isn't up to date, or indeed there may be a slightly different search algorithm.

[max]

i think the DB is the newest downloadable (http://ftp.freedb.org/pub/freedb/freedb-win-20050104.rar) from the main site.
The problem occurs more frequently if the disc has many entries in the database.

[Spoon]

It might not be using the offline database (using old cds from cdplayer.ini), check the path is correct for offline freedb.

[max]

I checked out the path and it seems to be correct (the database is installed on another drive) ant for many cd's it was the first time that I play them.
Any other ideas?

Thanks in advance
MAX

[Razgo]

i now use my offline databse on my external USB drive. it's working ok so far.

do you still have the database archive? if so extract it again. or perhaps better to down load the update file from freedb and then runthe up dater for it. i am thinking your offline database is corrupted somewhere.

[ssuyk]

I am having similar problems with using an offline freeDB database.
I have a utility for searching the database as well, and I can see that the CD I want track names for is in there.

But the total disc time is about 3 seconds different than what it says in the dbPowerAMP window.

I checked for three discs that dbPowerAMP couldn't name, and it was 3 seconds difference for them all.

Any ideas why this would be happening?

A nice feature would be to let the user search for an album name in the offline freedb, and use it to name the CD tracks.

[ChristinaS]

Does the information otherwise agree? like artist, song?

[ssuyk]

Yes - all the track names are right. I will have a closer look at the detail of what is in the freedb and what DbPowerAMP thinks the CD looks like - offsets/tracktimes etc. and post it here tomorrow.

[max]

In my case the mistake is also on artist/song name. I found that the error happens if there are many entries in the database for that Disk. (Because other programs list me multiple entries).
If I go on-line I have only one (correct) match.
If you are interested i can upload somewhere an ISO image of the wrong Disk.

[Spoon]

Both make sure that the Options Menu >> Standard CD Player emulation >> TAble of contents detection is unchecked.

[neilthecellist]

How do you use the offline CD database (that bigarse RAR file in the first post)?

[Razgo]

yes, you download it from here: http://www.freedb.org/modules.php?name=Sections&sop=viewarticle&artid=12

[Spoon]

and have to extract it.

[neilthecellist]

i already extracted and I got these folders that are named by genre. How do I USE them exactly? Razgo, that link you gave me doesn't teach me how.

[LtData]

i already extracted and I got these folders that are named by genre. How do I USE them exactly? Razgo, that link you gave me doesn't teach me how.
Point CDGRab to it, I would assume. Click FreeDB --> Servers, then point it to the local database.

[neilthecellist]

to the individual files or the RAR file as a whole?

[9thlife]

Expect I'm being really daft here. But is it possible to point dbpowerAMP at a Linux 'box' set up on my LAN with Freedb installed.

Have managed to get CDex to work, but really would prefer to use powerAMP !

[neilthecellist]

Expect I'm being really daft here. But is it possible to point dbpowerAMP at a Linux 'box' set up on my LAN with Freedb installed.

Have managed to get CDex to work, but really would prefer to use powerAMP !

I don't understand your question.

[LtData]

Expect I'm being really daft here. But is it possible to point dbpowerAMP at a Linux 'box' set up on my LAN with Freedb installed.

Have managed to get CDex to work, but really would prefer to use powerAMP !
As long as the file is shared and the computer can see it, I don't see why not.

[Razgo]

i already extracted and I got these folders that are named by genre. How do I USE them exactly? Razgo, that link you gave me doesn't teach me how.

dbpoweramp install options-->audio cd handling

[Spoon]

In Audio CD Input >> Options >> select freedb line and click settings (or similar) set it to use the offline database at the location (BTW the Windows database is needed, not the linux database).

[neilthecellist]

i got it to work. thanks

[9thlife]

As long as the file is shared and the computer can see it, I don't see why not.
Sorry, seems I wasn't clear enough in describing what I would like to do.

I've built a computer out of left-over bits, installed RedHat / Fedora as the operating system, connected it into my Windows LAN, and got it all working okay.

I've downloaded the Linux database and installed that onto the Linux machine. This works fine from the Linux computer, AND is fine from a Windows machine IF I use CDex software.

It all goes pants when I try to go back to using dBpowerAMP Converter.

[LtData]

...(BTW the Windows database is needed, not the linux database).
As Spoon says, you need the Windows database. Sorry.

[9thlife]

As Spoon says, you need the Windows database. Sorry.
nah? surely you can't put the Windows database onto a Linux computer??

[neilthecellist]

is it possible to use it under WINE?

[9thlife]

is it possible to use it under WINE?
So I take a Linux database that's been hacked to death and severly compromised into a Bill Gates acceptable format, then emulate his systemas well; all on a UNIX machine, just so that db can see it?

[Spoon]

The problem is (and this is why there are 2 databases), for older windows (and possibly any over the network), you cannot have more than 65,000 files per folder and the freedb data did. The windows db combines records to keep the file count down.

[neilthecellist]

is that just a rule that Microsoft set in? only 65,000 files?

[ChristinaS]

is that just a rule that Microsoft set in? only 65,000 files?
It's what can be addressed with 16 bits: 2**16 = 65536

[neilthecellist]

WHOA! I un-der-stand (lol, splitting the syllables) what you're saying! We learned about bits the second week in computer programming!!

[ChristinaS]

WHOA! I un-der-stand (lol, splitting the syllables) what you're saying! We learned about bits the second week in computer programming!!
Hmmm.... Should we celebrate this sudden awakening? :D :thumbup: :komisch9:

[LtData]

Ahh, apparently neil is now the forum's red-headed stepchild. :D
That is.. minus being red-headed and being a stepchild. And the constant abuse. Ahh, forget it. We'll just label him the "forum n00b" and be done with it. ;)

[9thlife]

The problem is (and this is why there are 2 databases), for older windows (and possibly any over the network), you cannot have more than 65,000 files per folder and the freedb data did. The windows db combines records to keep the file count down.
Many thanks for that Spoon. I'd worked my way thru' the Freedb site & read the same thing.
That was why I built this computer & started messing with *NIX operating systems & installed the full database on top over Fedora.
But I still don't see why being on a LAN talking to a Linux system is any different to connecting to Freedb over the internet? Surely my machine is behaving as my own local server?