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  • monsterjazzlick
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Jul 2017
    • 1764

    #16
    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Originally posted by garym
    I'm not sure about PRODUCER, LABEL, VENUE. But I'd guess they do NOT handle multiple values. So you'd be back to using "," or "/".
    Hi,

    I have totally killed off COMPOSER_SORT now.

    And am in the process of losing the '/' symbol - within VENUE and PRODUCER fields - in favour of a ',' (please see "Heavy Heart" - Carla Bley / "Master Strokes" - Bill Bruford):
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    Cheers,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-07-2017, 10:41 PM. Reason: screenshot

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    • monsterjazzlick
      dBpoweramp Guru
      • Jul 2017
      • 1764

      #17
      Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

      Hi,

      I am editing an album (a compilation called "Stan Getz & Colleagues") which has (for one track) a rather long medley!:
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      I have re-tagged the COMPOSERS properly (ie. with a ',' instead of '/'), but I am not sure which symbol I should use for the actual SONGS, please? As you can see, at the moment, they are still '/'.

      I would think the decision as to whether or not to tag as individual songs, or as a medley in it's own right, would depend upon if the user wanted the songs to show up - when running a search - as a whole, or as separate titles.

      This is the first time I have come across a 'medley' as yet.

      Many thanks in advance,

      Paul
      Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017, 02:16 PM. Reason: Insert Image

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      • Oggy
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Apr 2015
        • 697

        #18
        Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

        Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
        Hi,

        I am editing an album which has (for one track) a rather long medley:
        [ATTACH=CONFIG]1750[/ATTACH]

        I have re-tagged the COMPOSERS properly (ie. with a ',' instead of '/'), but I am not sure which symbol I should used for the actual SONGS, please? As you can see, at the moment, they are still '/'.

        I would think the decision as to whether or not to tag it as individual songs or as a medley in it's own right would depend upon if the user wanted the songs to show up - when running a search - as a whole, or as separate titles.

        This is the first time I have come across a 'medley' as yet.

        Many thanks in advance,

        Paul
        Paul, I use / for medleys. Because of the forbidden Windows filename characters, this will show as - on Windows devices.

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        • monsterjazzlick
          dBpoweramp Guru
          • Jul 2017
          • 1764

          #19
          Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

          Originally posted by Oggy
          Paul, I use / for medleys. Because of the forbidden Windows filename characters, this will show as - on Windows devices.
          Hi Oggy,

          Thanks for the fast response!

          Oh really? So no ',' or ';'! I should just leave it exactly as it is then?

          If you look at the very top field in the screenshot, then you will see a '-' separator, which I think is what you are specifically referring to?

          Cheers,

          Paul
          Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017, 02:22 PM. Reason: spelling

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          • garym
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Nov 2007
            • 5741

            #20
            Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

            Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
            Hi Oggy,

            Thanks for the fast response!

            Oh really? So no ',' or ';'! I should just leave it exactly as it is then?

            If you look at the very top field in the screenshot, then you will see a '-' separator, which I think is what you are specifically referring to?

            Cheers,

            Paul
            definitely NOT a semicolon. I use / or sometimes >

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            • monsterjazzlick
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Jul 2017
              • 1764

              #21
              Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

              Originally posted by garym
              definitely NOT a semicolon. I use / or sometimes >
              Hi Gary,

              Thanks for clarifying.

              Does the '>' appear as a '>', please? And is this - for yourself - just more of a visual (aesthetic) preference to a '/', or does it have a specific function, please?

              Cheers,

              Paul
              Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017, 02:38 PM. Reason: spelling

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              • garym
                dBpoweramp Guru
                • Nov 2007
                • 5741

                #22
                Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                Hi Gary,

                Thanks for clarifying.

                Does the '>' appear as a '>', please? And is this - for yourself - just more of a visual (aesthetic) preference to a '/', or does it have a specific function, please?

                Cheers,

                Paul
                nothing special. I tend to use the ">" in live shows where one song blends into another. This has long been a common indicator of this by collectors of live "bootleg" shows. I use "/" on studio albums where there is a medley.

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                • monsterjazzlick
                  dBpoweramp Guru
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 1764

                  #23
                  Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                  Originally posted by garym
                  nothing special. I tend to use the ">" in live shows where one song blends into another. This has long been a common indicator of this by collectors of live "bootleg" shows. I use "/" on studio albums where there is a medley.
                  Thanks for the insight Gary.

                  I think I will stick with the '/' as I have a lot on my plate as it is! I can always go back and change such symbols at a later date, if need be.

                  Cheers,

                  Paul

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                  • monsterjazzlick
                    dBpoweramp Guru
                    • Jul 2017
                    • 1764

                    #24
                    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                    Hi,

                    I am tagging an album in which Chick Corea is playing and being interviewed by Marian McPartland.

                    The format is basically:
                    1 - Interview

                    2 - Song

                    3 - Interview

                    4 - Song

                    and so on ...

                    Obviously the songs take care of themselves. But with the interviews, what do you place in COMPOSER? I would guess that the two options would be to state:

                    'Chick Corea; Marian McPartland'

                    or to state:

                    'N/A' (non applicable)

                    Many thanks,

                    Paul

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                    • garym
                      dBpoweramp Guru
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 5741

                      #25
                      Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                      Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                      Hi,

                      I am tagging an album in which Chick Corea is playing and being interviewed by Marian McPartland.

                      The format is basically:
                      1 - Interview

                      2 - Song

                      3 - Interview

                      4 - Song

                      and so on ...

                      Obviously the songs take care of themselves. But with the interviews, what do you place in COMPOSER? I would guess that the two options would be to state:

                      'Chick Corea; Marian McPartland'

                      or to state:

                      'N/A' (non applicable)

                      Many thanks,

                      Paul
                      If its not a song, I'd leave the COMPOSER tag blank.

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                      • mville
                        dBpoweramp Guru
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 4015

                        #26
                        Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                        Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                        Does the '>' appear as a '>', please? And is this - for yourself - just more of a visual (aesthetic) preference to a '/', or does it have a specific function, please?
                        Be careful. I have always tried to avoid using semi-colon and forward slash characters in my tags (unless as a separator), as tag editing software use these characters as separators in multi-value tags.

                        Historically, there have always been issues with users using AC/DC in the artist and album artist tags.
                        Last edited by mville; 10-08-2017, 04:24 PM. Reason: clarification

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                        • monsterjazzlick
                          dBpoweramp Guru
                          • Jul 2017
                          • 1764

                          #27
                          Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                          Originally posted by garym
                          If its not a song, I'd leave the COMPOSER tag blank.
                          Gary,

                          Would you just leave it empty, or would you check the red-cross and DELETE the field completely, please?

                          Or it is the same difference?

                          Thanks,

                          Paul

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                          • Oggy
                            dBpoweramp Guru
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 697

                            #28
                            Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                            Originally posted by garym
                            definitely NOT a semicolon. I use / or sometimes >
                            I've never seen a > used, with the exception of, <segue> between two tracks from a 24/96 FLAC file. On both the LP and CD, these are listed as separate tracks, but the music is continuous, I changed it to /

                            If you look at the track names from the metadata providers, most use / or - some have a space, on the LHS, some on the RHS, the rest a space either side - I use the latter.

                            I really like the idea of using the > !

                            This is all personal preference, as you can rename a song title, to anything you want.

                            Choices!!
                            Last edited by Oggy; 10-08-2017, 04:50 PM.

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                            • mville
                              dBpoweramp Guru
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4015

                              #29
                              Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                              Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                              but with the interviews, what do you place in composer? I would guess that the two options would be to state:

                              'chick corea; marian mcpartland'

                              or to state:

                              'n/a' (non applicable)


                              FWIW, when a composer is unknown, I use unknown, for dialog, interviews etc. I use n\a.

                              For medleys (in the title) I use ~.
                              Last edited by mville; 10-08-2017, 04:25 PM.

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                              • monsterjazzlick
                                dBpoweramp Guru
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 1764

                                #30
                                Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                                Originally posted by mville
                                Be careful. I have always tried to avoid using semi-colon and forward slash characters in my tags, as tag editing software use these characters as separators in multi-value tags. Historically, there have always been issues with users using AC/DC in the artist and album artist tags.
                                Thanks mville,

                                Do you mean if/when you open/edit your FLACs in a s/w other than Illustrate?

                                Paul

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