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    Folder Stucture?

    Hello,

    I am new here. I recently purchased and downloaded some music and the default folder structure is different than I am use to. I want your thoughts. It is: Album Artist\Album\Disc number\TrackNum - Title. I never thought of organizing my music like this. It does seem cleaner for box sets, instead of having multiple CDs from the same set under "Various Artists." I am trying to decide if I want to organize all my music this way. I am not sure if there are other good resources on how to organize music. Thanks!
    Last edited by nygren; 09-06-2023 at 05:50 PM.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    I've been using this approach for years and it's a fairly common one.

    The driving force behind this setup for me was that I found external artwork to be more compatible, so it required I use one folder per disc in order for each to have unique artwork - primarily for box-sets.

    I've tested this approach against a lot of servers and haven't had a problem with any of them.

    I do use "%date% - %album%" to help avoid collisions, and then "%discnumber%.%tracknumber%" for filenames because there's really no reason not to.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by nygren View Post
    It is: Album Artist\Album\Disc number\TrackNum - Title
    I have always used this approach for multidisk sets.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by simbun View Post
    I do use "%date% - %album%" to help avoid collisions, and then "%discnumber%.%tracknumber%" for filenames because there's really no reason not to.
    Thanks! Can you elaborate on this. I am not sure what you mean?

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    I have always used this approach for multidisk sets.
    Thanks! I will too.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by nygren View Post
    Thanks! Can you elaborate on this. I am not sure what you mean?
    I have a number of albums for which I have multiple releases e.g. remasters, so I prefix the name of the album with the release year e.g.
    Code:
    Wonder, Stevie/2010 - Music Of My Mind/CD01/...
    Wonder, Stevie/2012 - Music Of My Mind/CD01/...
    A lot of people will have added '2012 Remaster' to the album tag and used that as the folder name so it wouldn't be necessary, but I capture the remaster date in another tag and keep the album name correct.

    Regarding the filename, I just meant that I use:
    Code:
    01.01.flac
    01.02.flac
    ...
    I'm never going to look at the filenames so this keeps things simple.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Code:
    [album artist] - [album] ([year])\Disk [disc]\[disc].[track]. [title]
    That will work too.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by thexfile View Post
    Code:
    [album artist] - [album] ([year])\Disk [disc]\[disc].[track]. [title]
    That will work too.
    AlbumArtist has a one to many relationship to Albums so it's better (in my opinion) if the folder structures reflect that.

    Having a single AlbumArtist folder also gives you somewhere to place AlbumArtist specific files e.g. artwork, urls e.t.c.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by simbun View Post
    AlbumArtist has a one to many relationship to Albums so it's better (in my opinion) if the folder structures reflect that.

    Having a single AlbumArtist folder also gives you somewhere to place AlbumArtist specific files e.g. artwork, urls e.t.c.
    Related question: with multiple CD sets by a single artist, the default setting creates a separate folder for each disc, with each tack in each disc folder numbered from 1-X. Manually combining them in a single folder will result in duplicate track numbers. Is it possible to rip them into a single folder in correct order--disc 1-X--but with each track numbered sequentially, so that they play by disc order and number? I have a lot of classical and live recordings that I want to play from disc 1 track 1 to disc x track x in order.

    Also, some CD sets have symphony 1 and 4 on disc 1 and 3 and 8 on disc 2, etc. I assume that these would have to be re-tagged manually to have them play in order?

    I've only downloaded and tried the program out a couple times, but meta-tagging is superior to other programs I've seen and I like the interface. It's impressive.

    Thanks for any help.

    Aloha from the 5-O

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eulipian View Post
    Related question: with multiple CD sets by a single artist, the default setting creates a separate folder for each disc, with each tack in each disc folder numbered from 1-X. Manually combining them in a single folder will result in duplicate track numbers. Is it possible to rip them into a single folder in correct order--disc 1-X--but with each track numbered sequentially, so that they play by disc order and number? I have a lot of classical and live recordings that I want to play from disc 1 track 1 to disc x track x in order.

    Aloha from the 5-O
    yes. You can place in single album folder. Just use disk number in metadata and disk number in the naming string. So tracks would be 1.01, 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, etc.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eulipian View Post
    Related question: with multiple CD sets by a single artist, the default setting creates a separate folder for each disc, with each tack in each disc folder numbered from 1-X. Manually combining them in a single folder will result in duplicate track numbers. Is it possible to rip them into a single folder in correct order--disc 1-X--but with each track numbered sequentially, so that they play by disc order and number? I have a lot of classical and live recordings that I want to play from disc 1 track 1 to disc x track x in order.
    Most players will use the discnumber and tracknumber tags to order playback, but as @garym suggested you could begin your filenames with "[disc].[track]" (assuming you've configured to pad both with zeros).


    Quote Originally Posted by Eulipian View Post
    Also, some CD sets have symphony 1 and 4 on disc 1 and 3 and 8 on disc 2, etc. I assume that these would have to be re-tagged manually to have them play in order?
    I generally avoid changing discnumber and tracknumber tags as they're used by verification and tagging tools to identify the album/disc, maybe a playlist would be better.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by simbun View Post
    Most players will use the discnumber and tracknumber tags to order playback, but as @garym suggested you could begin your filenames with "[disc].[track]" (assuming you've configured to pad both with zeros).



    I generally avoid changing discnumber and tracknumber tags as they're used by verification and tagging tools to identify the album/disc, maybe a playlist would be better.
    Each disc is being ripped to a separate file labelled Album/Disc * I want them all in one folder with sequential track numbers in the order they would appear if the discs were played in order from 1-x.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    yes. You can place in single album folder. Just use disk number in metadata and disk number in the naming string. So tracks would be 1.01, 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, etc.
    I've resolved the issue of disc.track numbering and understand how to do that. But "album" automatically tags with a disc number.

    Example: D:\Music-Digital\Baroque\Johann Sebastian Bach\6 Suites Violoncello solo senza Basso Disc 1-Anner Bylsma

    Naming used: [composer]\[album]-[soloists]\[disc].[track]

    I can manually remove "Disc 1-x" before ripping, but each disc still rips to a separate folder. I can manually move them all to one folder and sort if I tag each track as "disc.track" But there must be a way of using the the programmable strings to avoid the manual steps that I just don't understand.

    I spent about 2 hours trying out various ideas but the issue seems to be that the metadata for album title are present and read by dbpoweramp even if the "album" name has been modified using the metadata field.

    Also "Contributing Artists" in the disc folder sometimes repeats the composer's name, sometimes the performer's. I want it to be the performers for classical records. I don't see the point of repeating the "album" name in the track folder but when I get rid of it in the metadata it also deletes it from the folder name where it belongs.

    Thank you for any help and apologies if I've missed something obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eulipian View Post
    I've resolved the issue of disc.track numbering and understand how to do that. But "album" automatically tags with a disc number.

    Example: D:\Music-Digital\Baroque\Johann Sebastian Bach\6 Suites Violoncello solo senza Basso Disc 1-Anner Bylsma

    Naming used: [composer]\[album]-[soloists]\[disc].[track]

    I can manually remove "Disc 1-x" before ripping, but each disc still rips to a separate folder. I can manually move them all to one folder and sort if I tag each track as "disc.track" But there must be a way of using the the programmable strings to avoid the manual steps that I just don't understand.

    I spent about 2 hours trying out various ideas but the issue seems to be that the metadata for album title are present and read by dbpoweramp even if the "album" name has been modified using the metadata field.

    Also "Contributing Artists" in the disc folder sometimes repeats the composer's name, sometimes the performer's. I want it to be the performers for classical records. I don't see the point of repeating the "album" name in the track folder but when I get rid of it in the metadata it also deletes it from the folder name where it belongs.

    Thank you for any help and apologies if I've missed something obvious.
    It's a setting. In CD Ripper, choose upper right menu (green 'list' icon), then choose "CD Ripper Options". Then under "tags and filenames" choose "metadata and ID tag". Within this menu of options, for "MutiCD add Disk to Album" choose the option "never". Then click OK to save all this.

    contributing artist issue: You can make the folder name and file names anything you want based on all or part of the metadata. Just modify your naming string.You can save different naming strings under different CD ripper profiles (lower left of CD ripper screen). You may want different naming strings for pop music vs classical music.
    Last edited by garym; 09-21-2023 at 01:23 PM.

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    Re: Folder Stucture?

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    It's a setting. In CD Ripper, choose upper right menu (green 'list' icon), then choose "CD Ripper Options". Then under "tags and filenames" choose "metadata and ID tag". Within this menu of options, for "MutiCD add Disk to Album" choose the option "never". Then click OK to save all this.

    contributing artist issue: You can make the folder name and file names anything you want based on all or part of the metadata. Just modify your naming string.You can save different naming strings under different CD ripper profiles (lower left of CD ripper screen). You may want different naming strings for pop music vs classical music.
    Thanks so much for explaining this so clearly.

    I understand that the default naming string is pretty standard and have read the forum posts and others on other forums as to what's "ideal." I'm just starting to use the program and don't want to have to redo after I rip half my collection. So, I'm trying to experiment and come up with a few standard profiles for classical, pop, opera, world/folk and jazz. Each one has different considerations specific to the genre.

    This is a very clever and highly flexible program. Thanks for helping me level up my understanding of its features and for the clear reply. BTW, dbpoweramp is highly recommended in the Audio Science Review forums, which is how I found it.

    EDIT: Changed the setting on "MutiCD add Disk to Album" to "never" but disc number still in the album name:

    D:\Music-Digital\Baroque\Johann Sebastian Bach\6 Suites Violoncello solo senza Basso Disc 1-Anner Bylsma
    Last edited by Eulipian; 09-21-2023 at 01:59 PM.

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