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    Custom Naming

    The default naming scheme for ripping CDs works pretty well for my needs, with one exception - multi-disk albums.

    Right now, each disk goes into it's own folder - Disk 1, Disk 2, etc.

    I want all the songs from Pink Floyd's The Wall, for example, to go into a single folder, with track numbering adapting appropriately.

    How do I write a naming scheme that gives me the current results for single albums, but the above results for double albums?

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    Re: Custom Naming

    In other words, how do I configure the Naming such that multiple disks end up as if they were one?

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    Re: Custom Naming

    You would do this manually when ripping, ensure the disc number is always 1/1, the album name has no disc number in it, then for the 2nd disc, right click on track one and add a +100 offset to the track number. For disc 3 you add 2x +100 offsets.

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    or just use the disk number as part of the track number, and have all the disks end up in the same folder. Use something like this in the appropriate part of the naming string:

    [disc].[track] - [title]

    For example, this naming string puts all the multiple discs in the same folder under album name folder, with a disk number in front of track (1.01, 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, etc.). But it only uses the disk number when there are multiple disks for the album (1/3, 2/3, 3/3, etc. when ripping).

    [MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc].[][track] - [title] - [artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc][].[track] - [title][][]

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    Re: Custom Naming

    Oooh Gary, I like that idea. I'll give it a go. Thanks.

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    Re: Custom Naming

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    or just use the disk number as part of the track number, and have all the disks end up in the same folder. Use something like this in the appropriate part of the naming string:

    [disc].[track] - [title]

    For example, this naming string puts all the multiple discs in the same folder under album name folder, with a disk number in front of track (1.01, 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, etc.). But it only uses the disk number when there are multiple disks for the album (1/3, 2/3, 3/3, etc. when ripping).

    [MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc].[][track] - [title] - [artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc][].[track] - [title][][]
    I tried this naming string today, just changed the "Compilations" value to "Various Artists" and removed "- [artist]" from the file name:

    [MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Various Artists\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc].[][track] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc][].[track] - [title][][]

    This worked fine, but the ripped tracks started at 01 for each disc in a multi-disc set, i.e.:

    1.01 - Railing *1
    1.02 - Brown Paper Bag *2
    ...
    2.01 - Intro *1
    2.02 - Hi-Potent *2
    ...

    I fixed this by going into Mp3tag and using the "Auto-numbering Wizard" tool, as I was unable to find a way to do it with the free version of PerfectTUNES. The result looked like this (highlighted column):
    track_number_01.jpg

    I didn't change the total number of tracks for each disc as this was just a test (hence 1/13, 2/13... 14/9, 15/9, etc.).

    Does the full version of PerfectTUNES enable this type of auto-numbering of tracks in the same way as Mp3tag? I had planned to purchase PerfectTUNES along with dBpoweramp when the free trial runs out. Also, is there a way to work around this problem via the naming string?

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    Re: Custom Naming

    Quote Originally Posted by Supernaut View Post
    I tried this naming string today, just changed the "Compilations" value to "Various Artists" and removed "- [artist]" from the file name:

    [MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Various Artists\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc].[][track] - [title][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc][].[track] - [title][][]

    This worked fine, but the ripped tracks started at 01 for each disc in a multi-disc set, i.e.:

    1.01 - Railing *1
    1.02 - Brown Paper Bag *2
    ...
    2.01 - Intro *1
    2.02 - Hi-Potent *2
    ...

    I fixed this by going into Mp3tag and using the "Auto-numbering Wizard" tool, as I was unable to find a way to do it with the free version of PerfectTUNES. The result looked like this (highlighted column):
    track_number_01.jpg

    I didn't change the total number of tracks for each disc as this was just a test (hence 1/13, 2/13... 14/9, 15/9, etc.).

    Does the full version of PerfectTUNES enable this type of auto-numbering of tracks in the same way as Mp3tag? I had planned to purchase PerfectTUNES along with dBpoweramp when the free trial runs out. Also, is there a way to work around this problem via the naming string?

    Yes, as that is what I prefer (knowing which disk the track is from). The problem is that when ripping you are only doing one CD at a time. So you would have to wait until all the Disks are ripped to then combine them and renumber from 1 to N. But, what if, say, Disk 1 and Disk 2 have exactly the same track names. Maybe Disk 1 is the studio album and Disk 2 is a live show of the same songs. So when you rip Disk 2, if you don't identify the file name uniquely (e.g., 2.01 - track name), then it will simply write over track 1 from Disk 1 when it rips Disk 2. And you might not notice this until much later.

    I don't think PerfectTunes will do this renumbering automatically. You can use the ID Tagging function of dbpa after the fact to renumber the tracks from 1 to N, just as you do with mp3tag. I'm not sure the exact command in dbpa tag editing as I also use mp3tag when I want to renumber tracks.

    edit: if you do renumber your multidisk albums from 1 to N, my advice is to also delete the Disk Number tag, as that may confuse some players/servers, and no longer needed in any case.
    Last edited by garym; 01-04-2021 at 07:45 AM.

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    Re: Custom Naming

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    ... this naming string puts all the multiple discs in the same folder under album name folder, with a disk number in front of track (1.01, 1.02, 2.01, 2.02, etc.). But it only uses the disk number when there are multiple disks for the album (1/3, 2/3, 3/3, etc. when ripping).

    [MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc].[][track] - [title] - [artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album]\[IFMULTI][disc][].[track] - [title][][]
    I've decided that this naming string is the one that works best for my needs, but would just like to clarify a few points before I start ripping my collection with it.

    I understand how some parts of the string work, but not others. For example, I can see that changing "[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album]" to "[IFCOMP]Various Artists\[album]" will change the name of the parent folder when the album comprises tracks by different artists, and the subsequent folder will have be the name of the album in either case.

    I can see that "[IFMULTI][disc].[][track] - [title] - [artist]" will create a file name where the disc number appears in front of the track number (when the album comprises more than one disc), and that this will be followed by a dash, the track title, another dash and then the artist name. I also understand that I can rearrange or remove any of these fields to create the desired file name, e.g.:
    [track] - [title] - [artist]
    [track] - [artist] - [title]
    [track] [artist] - [title]
    [track] - [title]

    However, I'm a little lost after that. In the remaining part of the string we find:
    [IFMULTI][disc][].[track] - [title]

    Previously the string read:
    [IFMULTI][disc].[][track] - [title] - [artist]

    I'm sure that there is a simple answer to this that I've missed, but what does the "[IF!COMP][IFVALUE]" command do and what is the reason for the differences noted above?

    Thank you.

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    Re: Custom Naming

    Everything from "[IF!COMP][IFVALUE]" onward is telling the naming string what to do if the CD is *not* a compilation (various artist) CD. [IF!COMP], note the "!" is the code for if NOT a compilation. And in the case of non-compilations, I wanted the file name to be just track no. and title. No need to have artist in the name as artist is in the folder name and there is only one artist in this case. (I wanted artist in the name for the compilation albums, because each track was a different artist).
    Last edited by garym; 01-09-2021 at 07:07 AM.

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