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Thread: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

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    Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    Hi.

    Quick question before i start sorting the metadata on some of my albums.

    When i browse my music using the Naim app under the "Artist" tab then say press "D" not all of the albums surname beginning with "D" are showing.

    When i look at the metadata some of my albums have more more than one sort field, some have no sort field (mainly downloads).

    Artist Sort
    ARTIST_SORT

    Album Artist Sort
    ALBUM_ARTIST_SORT.

    When i edit the metadata do i delete "ARTIST_SORT" and "ALBUM_ARTIST_SORT" or do i add them to the albums that do not have them. Am i right in thinking these duel fields are the cause of my problems.

    Naim Uniti Nova.
    Qnap HS 251 nas.
    Asset 6.2.

    Edward

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    Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    There is a configuration option to ignore the sort tag:

    The Artist & Album Handling has 3 modes (examples using The Beetles):
    Smart: this mode keeps the artist text as The Beetles, yet sorts the artist under 'B'
    Value, The: places the on the end, for example Beetles, The
    Leave as is: does not adjust the displayed value or sorted position

    Trying PerfectTUNES will speed up sort management, it can show inconsistent sort tags.

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    Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    Not sure if this is correct to post my query as a reply here, if notI apologise

    I have noticed recently what appears to be a change to my Asset listings on the client devices.
    I always use Album Artist as the main tag for listing. Ths works fine for me.
    I am now noticing that some artists names appear within their different lists - e.g. Link Wray appears in both L and W (all albums in both).
    However Warren Zevon only appears in W and not Z.

    As far as I know, I have not set the AlbumArtistSort or ArtistSort tags. I have Artist Sort Handling set to the default of Display n Sort and Non-Sort Locations for all instances of Asset.
    As I say, I have only recently noticed this.
    Has something changed in an update to Asset? I updated to version 6.3 in December 2019. Or have I started ding something wrong, or has this always been the case and I have not noticed before?
    TIA for any advice.

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    Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    >However Warren Zevon only appears in W and not Z.

    These tracks will have no artist sort.

    > Link Wray appears in both L and W

    One or all of these tracks has the artist sort set as 'Wray, Link'

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    Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    Thanks Spoon I will checck the tags again.

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    Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    Would it be simpler than looking for all Artist Sort tags, to set Artist Sort Handling to ignore?
    I have no need tosort in that way.

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    Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    I set Artist Sort Handling to ignore and everything is now as I wish...
    EXCEPT
    even though 'The' Artist & Album Handling is set to Smart, all artists appear in T listing, e.g. Tne Beetles no longer appear in B but now in T no what I require
    Does the smart handling make use of the Sort tags in some way?
    I will now try setting the 'The' Artist & Album Handling tag to [value], The which hopefully will mean that The Beetles appear in B, albeit listed as Beetles, The.
    Ths isrobably not a major issue for me.

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    Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    Yes this option requires sorting not to be disabled as it relies on it.

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    Re: Album Artist, Album _Artist.

    Thanks Spoon
    Setting the 'The' Artist & Album Handling tag to [value] gives the required result.

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