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  • Partha
    dBpoweramp Enthusiast
    • Nov 2017
    • 158

    #16
    Re: WAV tagging on new computer

    Originally posted by mville
    Thanks

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    • mville
      dBpoweramp Guru
      • Dec 2008
      • 4015

      #17
      Re: WAV tagging on new computer

      Originally posted by Partha
      Like I said, there's possibly no scientific explanation for it. But I feel on my ipad, with the kaisertone player, wav definitely has more soundstage than flac. the flac is a bit mp3-ish. Attach that to a pair of elac bs 52.1s through the amp and it's bliss. flac is... meh.
      I hear you, but this is not down to the file format, rather a sub-standard player/playback setup.

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      • mville
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Dec 2008
        • 4015

        #18
        Re: WAV tagging on new computer

        Originally posted by Partha
        It's only the soundstage and stereo separation, not the sound.
        I guess the player is applying some sort of DSP on playback.
        Last edited by mville; 07-22-2019, 07:35 PM.

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        • Partha
          dBpoweramp Enthusiast
          • Nov 2017
          • 158

          #19
          Re: WAV tagging on new computer

          Could be. But I feel the same through the digital interconnect on my quad vena.

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          • Partha
            dBpoweramp Enthusiast
            • Nov 2017
            • 158

            #20
            Re: WAV tagging on new computer

            Originally posted by mville
            I guess the player is applying some sort of DSP on playback.
            ONly on the WAV? It's possible. I like FLAC, have nothing against it. But generally I stay away from lossless compressed.

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            • mville
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Dec 2008
              • 4015

              #21
              Re: WAV tagging on new computer

              Originally posted by Partha
              Could be. But I feel the same through the digital interconnect on my quad vena.
              It's entirely up to you what you use, just bear in mind, wav tagging is problematic.

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              • Partha
                dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                • Nov 2017
                • 158

                #22
                Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                A lot of the manner in which we soak in music is psychological, i guess. After so many years and file formats, I say you live only once! If you want to convert everything to 16/44.1 WAV, go for it!! You're not deleting the other files!

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                • Partha
                  dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                  • Nov 2017
                  • 158

                  #23
                  Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                  Originally posted by mville
                  It's entirely up to you what you use, just bear in mind, wav tagging is problematic.
                  Very, very true. Should I shift to aiff? Are there compatibility problems with it?

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                  • mville
                    dBpoweramp Guru
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 4015

                    #24
                    Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                    Originally posted by Partha
                    Very, very true. Should I shift to aiff? Are there compatibility problems with it?
                    No idea, as I use flac (and a -V 1 mp3 library for my iPod).

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                    • Partha
                      dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                      • Nov 2017
                      • 158

                      #25
                      Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                      Originally posted by mville
                      No idea, as I use flac (and a -V 1 mp3 library for my iPod).
                      Very nice. After endless tries, I've settled on V3 Lame for my iphone. Can't tell the difference. Download VOX for playing back lame mp3s, it sounds gorgeous. An improvement over apple's music app.

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                      • timster67
                        dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                        • May 2014
                        • 210

                        #26
                        Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                        Originally posted by Partha
                        ONly on the WAV? It's possible. I like FLAC, have nothing against it. But generally I stay away from lossless compressed.
                        Try it uncompressed. The source data will then be exactly the same as WAV and your player won; thave to unwrap it (that shouldn;t make a difference but you never know). Then you'd hav the soundstage as for WAV with the benefit of FLAC tagging.
                        I think you could even convert compressed FLAC back to uncrompressed - seeing as no data is lost?

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                        • Partha
                          dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                          • Nov 2017
                          • 158

                          #27
                          Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                          Originally posted by timster67
                          Try it uncompressed. The source data will then be exactly the same as WAV and your player won; thave to unwrap it (that shouldn;t make a difference but you never know). Then you'd hav the soundstage as for WAV with the benefit of FLAC tagging.
                          I think you could even convert compressed FLAC back to uncrompressed - seeing as no data is lost?
                          Will try uncompressed FLAC. Interesting, have always given it the go-by.

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                          • mville
                            dBpoweramp Guru
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 4015

                            #28
                            Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                            Originally posted by Partha
                            Will try uncompressed FLAC. Interesting, have always given it the go-by.
                            Uh? Now I am confused. What happened to the soundstage in your posts nos. 10 and 14?

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                            • timster67
                              dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                              • May 2014
                              • 210

                              #29
                              Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                              Originally posted by mville
                              Uh? Now I am confused. What happened to the soundstage in your posts nos. 10 and 14?
                              It could be (though very highly unlikely) it's the uncompressing of flac that is doing something in his players. Uncompressed flac may (I doubt it) help. Uncomressed flac is essentially WAV afaik. This is from a review of dbPoweramp R14:

                              ... also includes a FLAC Uncompressed encoding option (which stores audio uncompressed, for those who want WAVE PCM but with better ID Tagging).
                              It's that last part - WAV PCM but with better ID Tagging - that offers up what many people have been asking for which is an open source uncompressed file format that allows embedded (and widely supported) metadata.

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                              • Partha
                                dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                                • Nov 2017
                                • 158

                                #30
                                Re: WAV tagging on new computer

                                Originally posted by mville
                                Uh? Now I am confused. What happened to the soundstage in your posts nos. 10 and 14?
                                No no, just for the sake of metadata.

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