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Thread: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

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    Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    I cannot get TuneFUSION to execute the ID Tag Processing DSP effects which I have set up.

    New TuneFUSION installation on Windows 8.1 (in a VM under MacOS). Sources are FLAC.

    Simple test example: Re-encode Lossless as Flac; 1:1 disabled; DSP effect Capitalization: All Caps (because this should make a good test).
    Choose Refresh All. Run.
    Output: Creates the files but according to MP3tag and exiftool, the tags are the same as in the source, ie no capitalisation.

    I've tried DSP effects to add tags, change tags etc -- in all cases it seems not to be executing the DSP effect.

    Help please!

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Does this work for others or have I done something wrong? I'm stuck and would appreciate some help... Thanks.

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Bug confirmed, we will fix for next release, which should be quite soon as we have lots of fixes waiting.

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Actually I forgot to uncheck the options Audio Formats & Naming: 'Copy 1:1 Audio Tracks Which Are' uncheck all here. However we will update TuneFUSION to run the ID Tag Processing DSP Effect even if doing a 1:1 copy in the next update.

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoon View Post
    Actually I forgot to uncheck the options Audio Formats & Naming: 'Copy 1:1 Audio Tracks Which Are' uncheck all here. However we will update TuneFUSION to run the ID Tag Processing DSP Effect even if doing a 1:1 copy in the next update.
    Not sure I understand you. I have unchecked the 1:1 options. It should be running DSP processing for me shouldn't it?

    How long will the new version be? I bought TuneFUSION primarily to wrangle metadata so hope it will be soon. Or is there an earlier working version I can revert to?

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    As a test enable the option to check destination file size, then you can simply delete one file on the card and resync to quickly find out what is happening. I do not think any encoding is happening, try setting different FLAC compression levels, you should see the destination file change size each time you sync.

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoon View Post
    I do not think any encoding is happening, try setting different FLAC compression levels, you should see the destination file change size each time you sync.
    OK. Here we go. My current view is that encoding IS happening, but the DSP for ID Tag Processing is not being called.

    File size with FLAC compression set to 5: 118166476
    File size with FLAC compression set to 1: 133857688

    On that second pass I included ID Tag Processing "Deletion: all except Artist" and "Album Art export to cover.jpg". Neither had any effect. I tried Fixed Bit Depth: 8 bit, and that DID work.

    So in summary: compression is happening; DSP effects are working; but ID Tag Processing is broken.
    (Plus the issue you have noted already, which is that ID Tag Processing should ALSO work when doing 1:1 copies.)
    Last edited by SP0; 06-26-2019 at 05:57 AM.

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    You have just 1 DSP effect 'ID Tag Processing'?

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoon View Post
    You have just 1 DSP effect 'ID Tag Processing'?
    Have tried with just one simple ID Tag Processing.
    Have tried with two.
    Have tried with ID Tag and another (fixed bit depth).

    In all cases, no change to ID tags.

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Example using Tag Processing to capitalise (just for illustration purposes).

    Screenshot 2019-06-26 at 14.16.30.jpg
    Screenshot 2019-06-26 at 14.16.50.jpg

    Result:
    Code:
    $ ls -l /sourcedir/filename.flac
    -rwx------@ 1 userid  staff  10366245 26 Jun 14:14 filename.flac
    
    $ ls -l /destinationdir/filename.flac
    -rwxr-xr-x  1 userid  staff  10357321 26 Jun 14:18 filename.flac
    
    $ exiftool /sourcedir/filename.flac | grep Artist
    Album Artist                    : Susan Manoff
    Artist                          : Sandrine Piau, Susan Manoff
    
    $ exiftool /destinationdir/filename/flac | grep Artist
    Artist                          : Sandrine Piau
    Observations:
    1. File is being rewritten (probably re-encoded)
    2. Nothing has been capitalised: the Tag Processing did not work
    3. Bizarrely, Album Artist has disappeared from the output file altogether.

    New discovery: if I turn off "rewrite ID tags", the Tag Processing now works!
    The option to save art to "cover.jpg" does nothing (that was one of the cases I was using as a simple test) so that may be broken in some other way, but never mind.

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    I really can't get this to work. It did fix my metadata once, but no more.

    All I am trying to do is to execute this for each file:
    Code:
    IF Album Artist=[anyvalue]
    SET Artist=[Album Artist]
    The file before sync has this metadata (according to exiftool and Mp3tag)
    Code:
    Artist                          : Giuliano Sommerhalder, Juliua Schroder, Kammerorc
    Title                           : Overture in D: 1. Overture
    Album                           : Fasch: Concerti & Ouverturen
    Albumartist                     : Kammerorchester Basel
    After executing the above rule, the re-encoded file contains the same ID3 tags. I was expecting it to write "Kammerorchester Basel" into the Artist field.

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Quote Originally Posted by SP0 View Post
    I really can't get this to work. It did fix my metadata once, but no more.

    All I am trying to do is to execute this for each file:
    Code:
    IF Album Artist=[anyvalue]
    SET Artist=[Album Artist]
    The file before sync has this metadata (according to exiftool and Mp3tag)
    Code:
    Artist                          : Giuliano Sommerhalder, Juliua Schroder, Kammerorc
    Title                           : Overture in D: 1. Overture
    Album                           : Fasch: Concerti & Ouverturen
    Albumartist                     : Kammerorchester Basel
    After executing the above rule, the re-encoded file contains the same ID3 tags. I was expecting it to write "Kammerorchester Basel" into the Artist field.
    Code:
    IF AlbumArtist=[anyvalue]
    SET Artist=[AlbumArtist]
    What if you use "AlbumArtist" instead? or even "Albumartist"

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    What if you use "AlbumArtist" instead? or even "Albumartist"
    Same (lack of) result with either of those options. Does it work on your system?

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    Quote Originally Posted by SP0 View Post
    Same (lack of) result with either of those options. Does it work on your system?
    I just started playing with tunefusion. But I couldn't get the ID TAG PROCESSING to work either (artist was not changed to album artist).

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    Re: Struggling to process metadata with TuneFUSION

    A few things to note:

    If there is any 1:1 copy then DSP Effects are not run.

    If you have 'Rewrite ID Tags' then this option overrides ID Tag processing and the original tags are written.

    Both of these issues will be fixed for next update.

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