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  • Nubben
    dBpoweramp Enthusiast
    • Apr 2008
    • 154

    Using dither when upsampling?

    Hi all,

    I probably have not grasped the concept of dither but if I am upsampling a file from 16bit/44.1khz to 24bit/96khz should I be using any other DSP effect than the upsampling/bitdepth options?

    Many thanks!

    Nubben
  • mville
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Dec 2008
    • 4015

    #2
    Re: Using dither when upsampling?

    Originally posted by Nubben
    I probably have not grasped the concept of dither but if I am upsampling a file from 16bit/44.1khz to 24bit/96khz should I be using any other DSP effect than the upsampling/bitdepth options?
    Why bother to upsample 16-bit/44.1KHz files?

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    • Nubben
      dBpoweramp Enthusiast
      • Apr 2008
      • 154

      #3
      Re: Using dither when upsampling?

      Originally posted by mville
      Why bother to upsample 16-bit/44.1KHz files?
      For the sake of argument?

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      • mville
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Dec 2008
        • 4015

        #4
        Re: Using dither when upsampling?

        Originally posted by Nubben
        For the sake of argument?
        Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.

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        • Nubben
          dBpoweramp Enthusiast
          • Apr 2008
          • 154

          #5
          Re: Using dither when upsampling?

          Originally posted by mville
          Sorry, I don't understand what you mean.
          If you disregard any reason whatsoever why someone would upsample a 16/44.1 file to 24/96, should I use dither? I have read that one should use dither when downsampling from say 32bit to 16bit. I just would like to know.
          Last edited by Nubben; 09-12-2018, 08:05 PM.

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          • Dat Ei
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Feb 2014
            • 1745

            #6
            Re: Using dither when upsampling?

            Digital upsampling gives you no more information, but only more signal. In other words: it is the same audio quality but with a bigger file size.


            Dat Ei

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            • mville
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Dec 2008
              • 4015

              #7
              Re: Using dither when upsampling?

              Originally posted by Nubben
              If you disregard any reason whatsoever why someone would upsample a 16/44.1 file to 24/96, should I use dither? I have read that one should use dither when downsampling from say 32bit to 16bit. I just would like to know.
              It is a time consuming process, you gain nothing and lose disk space, so I was simply interested in why you would want to upsample a 16-bit/44.1KHz file.

              In dBpoweramp, Triangular dither is the recommended/preferred option.
              Last edited by mville; 09-13-2018, 09:56 AM.

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              • Nubben
                dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                • Apr 2008
                • 154

                #8
                Re: Using dither when upsampling?

                Thanks @mville. I just wanted to understand why dither is needed when downsampling and not upsampling.

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                • Nubben
                  dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 154

                  #9
                  Re: Using dither when upsampling?

                  Thanks Dat Ei

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