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Thread: Genre tagging support

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    Genre tagging support

    Not sure how feasible it would be to add some functionality to PerfectTunes to scan & identify albums and add missing ID3 fields like Genre and Year, etc. I use MusicBrainz Picard for tagging MP3s but support for genres is oddly horrendous. A plugin that works good in theory is unusable due to slowdowns and constant crashes. The folksonomy tag method is also a mess.

    I'd really like just one genre assigned to each album. I think you have Gracenote integration in the CD Ripper, wondering if something like that would be easy to adapt for this.

    I've tried MP3 Taggers that claim to do this or can query Discogs but I have not liked using their program as a whole--too complicated and ends up making changes I don't want, if I can get it to work at all. I love how usable your tools are.

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    Re: Genre tagging support

    Quote Originally Posted by msw141 View Post
    Not sure how feasible it would be to add some functionality to PerfectTunes to scan & identify albums and add missing ID3 fields like Genre and Year, etc...
    Do you mean add missing tags, automatically?

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    Re: Genre tagging support

    Genre tagging is a very personal thing. Just browse through some of the threads here on the subject. Whether to microdivide genre or use a few broad categories. Genre by album or by individual track. How much, if at all to use the style tag. If people can't even decide on their own what genre to call a song, there is no hope for a program to tag the way YOU want your genres tagged. And actually I've changed my outlook towards genres several times over the years, and might consider yet a different model if more players supported style.

    If I depended on the popular databases for my genre tags, 90 percent would be tagged "reggae" which most of it isn't, it is soca or calypso, and if you study the history of Caribbean music, you'll understand the difference. Worse than that, sources might call all of it "world" which negates the use of the tag altogether.

    Also dBpoweramp does not use Gracenote, it uses several other metadata sources. Gracenote will not license their database for use with any software that also references any other metadata source, as I understand it.

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    Re: Genre tagging support

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    Do you mean add missing tags, automatically?
    yes, add missing genre automatically.

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    Re: Genre tagging support

    Quote Originally Posted by schmidj View Post
    Genre tagging is a very personal thing.
    yeah I get that, but this search for the unicorn of a perfect all-encompassing articulated genre tagging system is also why there's not even a basic solution for people that don't care about micro-accuracy. I have blank fields I want filled in and I don't want them to have to be done manually. I don't care so much if it tags Beastie Boys as "East Coast Rap" vs. "New York Rap" vs. "Hip Hop", a lot of the existing solutions don't even accomplish this or cause other changes you don't want if you are only targeting genre. If it checks wikipedia or discogs and applies that genre--I'm happy.

    obviously isn't something that will appeal to you and that's fine.
    Last edited by msw141; 07-27-2018 at 04:30 AM.

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    Re: Genre tagging support

    Metedata retrieval, post rip, similar to that available in CD Ripper, has been requested many times for PerfectTUNES, but has yet to be implemented.

    Regarding Genre/Style, the data available from the online metadata providers and wiki is IMO, next to useless, due to the reasons schmidj has already alluded to.

    also, there does need to be some accuracy in the Genre/Style data, otherwise the tags become redundant/pointless.
    Last edited by mville; 07-27-2018 at 04:53 AM.

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