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    Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Hi,

    I just random-checked a few albums and they all seem to be displaying the artwork! And those with double/triple-discs correctly display their respective-artworks.

    Ironically, Sony emailed earlier on. They said their higher-tech team advised: "I will not be able to use my own PC to transfer music files or artworks to the Walkman"; and so instead I need to use an 'alternative' computer for this task. Quite unbelievable!

    Paul
    No, very believable. These folks are idiots. I really feel sorry for end-users of technology who don't know (or don't have the capability) of gathering info from actual knowledgeable users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    No, very believable. These folks are idiots. I really feel sorry for end-users of technology who don't know (or don't have the capability) of gathering info from actual knowledgeable users.
    Sony Tech Team would do well to read this thread. They might actually LEARN something!

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    Question Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Hi,

    I don't want to sound pedantic (really, I don't!), but I noticed something relating to the behaviour the Sony Walkman since using 'embedded' artworks this week:

    As the album moves from one track to the next, it is almost as if the artwork is refreshed. I mean, as soon as the player jumps to the next track on the album, for about a 1/4 of a second the artwork disappears (ie, the artwork region of the screen goes blank) and then reappears again. Perhaps this is what happens with 'embedded' art?, or maybe it's just down to a quirk on the Walkman?

    I will check it in foobar on my PC just to see is the same thing occurs...

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 08-15-2018 at 03:58 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Hi,

    I don't want to sound pedantic (really, I don't!), but I noticed something relating to the behaviour the Sony Walkman since using 'embedded' artworks this week:

    As the album moves from one track to the next, it is almost as if the artwork is refreshed. I mean, as soon as the player jumps to the next track on the album, for about a 1/4 of a second the artwork disappears (ie, the artwork region of the screen goes blank) and then reappears again. Perhaps this is what happens with 'embedded' art?, or maybe it's just down to a quirk on the Walkman?

    I will check it in foobar on my PC just to see is the same thing occurs...

    Paul
    Not surprising, because evidently with the walkman, it only sees the embedded art. So each track has "new" art, even if it happens to be the exact same artwork. It loads artwork for EACH track. Foobar doesn't likely do this as it can read the folder.jpg.

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    Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    I use embedded art in mp3 files in my car player, and it refreshes like your Walkman. Foobar mobile on my iPhone doesn't do a refresh for embedded art in mp3 files.

    I'm interested in how the Walkman handles multi-value tags, if you use them.

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    Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Not surprising, because evidently with the walkman, it only sees the embedded art. So each track has "new" art, even if it happens to be the exact same artwork. It loads artwork for EACH track. Foobar doesn't likely do this as it can read the folder.jpg.
    Hi Garym,

    You are probably correct here. Yes, the Walkman treats each new artwork-file as if it were different, even though the image is the exactly same!

    I think, by default, foobar is reading the 'folder' art. Hence there is no refreshing of any track-images (unless of course it's a box-set with multiple-arts). I just tried it using foobar on my PC. btw - the FLAC folder it is reading is the one on my C: drive which has both 'embedded' and 'folder' (same FLAC folder as on the Walkman SD-card).

    Cheers.
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 08-15-2018 at 04:21 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryG45 View Post
    I use embedded art in mp3 files in my car player, and it refreshes like your Walkman. Foobar mobile on my iPhone doesn't do a refresh for embedded art in mp3 files.

    I'm interested in how the Walkman handles multi-value tags, if you use them.
    Hi GaryG,

    Thanks for the info.

    I am afraid I only use FLAC format now; and I only listen using my Sony Walkman, Win_10 PC, and Amazon Fire. The latter two are through foobar app.

    "Multi value tags"; I seem to remember hearing/thinking about this sometime last year? So much has gone on through my journey of FLACs/ripping, etc! And so please remind me just in case I am able to return some assistance.

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 08-15-2018 at 04:27 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Paul,
    An example would be genre. I have albums where the genre is Jazz and Pop. Another multi-value tag would be the STYLE tag, which I believe you were using. Although I doubt if many players display style. You may have decided to not use them.

    Gary

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    Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggy View Post
    From DAPs, full-size and in car, missing cover art seems a massive issue as there are no standards, and different manufacturers implement this differently. Folder.jpg or Embedded, maximum/minimum pixel size often in tandem with different maximum file size, and now Baseline DCT!

    No wonder there are issues.....
    Spoon, I believe the baseline (standard) versus progressive format for .jpg files, is something that could be incorporated into dBpoweramp Image Converter, maybe as a DSP?

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    Lightbulb Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryG45 View Post
    An example would be genre. I have albums where the genre is Jazz and Pop.
    Hi GaryG,

    I took a look for you last night.

    The Sony Walkman has:

    ARTIST - this can be set to ARTIST or ALBUM ARTIST (I have it to the latter)

    RELEASE YEAR - the year the album was released (I manually entered this data during tagging). I don't use this category as a search function to be honest. Personally, I would have preferred RECORDED YEAR.

    ALBUM - is an alphabetical list of every album (all GENRES combined) in an A to Z list. I don't use this category.

    COMPOSER - gives you a list of how many ALBUMS a composer has contributed to. So, if a composer has written 50 songs across 20 albums, the result will indicate the amount of '20'. I may end up using this once I get around to listening to some CLASSICALs.

    GENRE - I use this one all of the time! I currently have: Choral, Classical, Country, Holistic, Jazz, Languages, Popular, Prog-Rock, Stage & Screen, Self-Development, and Xmas.

    Upon checking this info. for you, I have noticed something odd which is occurring in my library. The folder containing all of Chick Corea's albums does not appear under the letter 'C'?, but rather between 'F' and 'G'. Similarly, George Shearing appears between 'M' and 'O'! Though I have not investigated this thoroughly as of yet.

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 08-16-2018 at 08:54 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Lightbulb Re: Recommendations for a digital audio player

    Quote Originally Posted by GaryG45 View Post
    Another multi-value tag would be the STYLE tag, which I believe you were using. Although I doubt if many players display style. You may have decided to not use them.
    As expected, the STYLE tag is not displayed. But yes, I have still used STYLE in all of my tagging. As you know, from a previous thread, I spent a good while compiling these - though am still stuck on quite a few CLASSICALs at present.

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