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  • dsb53
    • Dec 2017
    • 5

    CD track listing in alphabetical order

    I ripped CDs to FLAC files on a Windows 10 PC using CD ripper and see the correct track order in file explorer and in Windows Media Player. But when I try streaming them to an Onkyo NR545 receiver using an Onkyo Remote 3 app on my iPhone, the tracks show up in alphabetical order and play in that order. I would prefer to play them in the original CD track order. Anyone know how to do this?
  • garym
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Nov 2007
    • 5744

    #2
    Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

    Originally posted by dsb53
    I ripped CDs to FLAC files on a Windows 10 PC using CD ripper and see the correct track order in file explorer and in Windows Media Player. But when I try streaming them to an Onkyo NR545 receiver using an Onkyo Remote 3 app on my iPhone, the tracks show up in alphabetical order and play in that order. I would prefer to play them in the original CD track order. Anyone know how to do this?
    The onkyo is probably using file names rather than the metadata tags. Your naming structure is probably something like: trackname.flac. Needs to be "01 - trackname.flac" or "01. trackname.flac" etc.

    This is the dynamic naming string I use to achieve this (as well as automatically handle compilations, multidisk, etc.)

    [MAXLENGTH]240,[IFCOMP]Compilations\[album] [IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track] - [title] - [artist][][IF!COMP][IFVALUE]album artist,[album artist],[artist][]\[album][IFMULTI] \Disc [disc][]\[track] - [title][][]
    Last edited by garym; 12-23-2017, 11:28 PM.

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    • dsb53
      • Dec 2017
      • 5

      #3
      Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

      Originally posted by garym
      The onkyo is probably using file names rather than the metadata tags. Your naming structure is probably something like: trackname.flac. Needs to be "01 - trackname.flac" or "01. trackname.flac" etc.

      This is the dynamic naming string I use to achieve this (as well as automatically handle compilations, multidisk, etc.)
      ************************************************** ***********
      Actually naming structure is <track*> <artist> - <track name>.flac. As in:
      01 Paul Simon - The Boy In The Bubble.flac

      So shouldn't Onkyo be ordering them correctly?

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      • dsb53
        • Dec 2017
        • 5

        #4
        Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

        Also where does dynamic naming string get entered?

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        • mville
          dBpoweramp Guru
          • Dec 2008
          • 4015

          #5
          Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

          Originally posted by dsb53
          when I try streaming them to an Onkyo NR545 receiver using an Onkyo Remote 3 app on my iPhone, the tracks show up in alphabetical order and play in that order.
          What server software is being used to stream the tracks to the Onkyo NR545 receiver?

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          • mville
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Dec 2008
            • 4015

            #6
            Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

            Originally posted by dsb53
            Also where does dynamic naming string get entered?
            CD Ripper Naming (bottom left of the main CD Ripper window).

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            • garym
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Nov 2007
              • 5744

              #7
              Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

              Originally posted by dsb53
              ************************************************** ***********
              Actually naming structure is <track*> <artist> - <track name>.flac. As in:
              01 Paul Simon - The Boy In The Bubble.flac

              So shouldn't Onkyo be ordering them correctly?
              My hypothesis was not correct then. Not sure why Onkyo not handling this (tags and name are correct and in "number" order). mville's question becomes key (what is streaming to the Onkyo and what settings may be available to this streamer?).

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              • dsb53
                • Dec 2017
                • 5

                #8
                Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

                Originally posted by garym
                My hypothesis was not correct then. Not sure why Onkyo not handling this (tags and name are correct and in "number" order). mville's question becomes key (what is streaming to the Onkyo and what settings may be available to this streamer?).
                I assume it's Windows Media Player since that's the default DLNA server on Windows 10? I haven't installed any other DLNA server. Do I need to in order to resolve this?

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                • garym
                  dBpoweramp Guru
                  • Nov 2007
                  • 5744

                  #9
                  Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

                  Originally posted by dsb53
                  I assume it's Windows Media Player since that's the default DLNA server on Windows 10? I haven't installed any other DLNA server. Do I need to in order to resolve this?
                  sorry, can't help. I don't use Windows Media Player (and if you do, you better make sure you turn off all the automatic settings, as it is known for modifying your tags and artwork without your permission). I can't recommend DLNA players as my network streamers don't use that protocol. Illustrate, maker of dbpa, also produces ASSET, a DLNA/UPNP server. Maybe you should do try the free trial of that?

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                  • dsb53
                    • Dec 2017
                    • 5

                    #10
                    Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

                    Originally posted by garym
                    sorry, can't help. I don't use Windows Media Player (and if you do, you better make sure you turn off all the automatic settings, as it is known for modifying your tags and artwork without your permission). I can't recommend DLNA players as my network streamers don't use that protocol. Illustrate, maker of dbpa, also produces ASSET, a DLNA/UPNP server. Maybe you should do try the free trial of that?
                    Asset free version works great. Tracks are now listed in Remote 3 app as they are on CD. Thanks.

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                    • garym
                      dBpoweramp Guru
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 5744

                      #11
                      Re: CD track listing in alphabetical order

                      Originally posted by dsb53
                      Asset free version works great. Tracks are now listed in Remote 3 app as they are on CD. Thanks.
                      great!

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