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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Also, I think something in your settings is adding these tags. I have ripped thousands of disks and never had these extra tags added. I suspect you have some accidental settings in the batch converter dsps. Plus, have you tested that in ripping you don&*8217;t get the extra tags but they only get added when you run batch conversion to embed art.
    Thanks garym, I try a new one out shortly ...
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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    I am just ripping a CD and I went thru every track individually to check if there were any unwanted tags. The only one was 'IRSC' which I deleted from all tracks.

    I used metadata from the manual-review page:

    Next, I'll investigate further ...
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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    I did it fairly quickly so it's a bit rough & ready. But upon initial ripping there are NO duplicate or unwanted tags/fields:


    You can always tell a rogue instantly because they are in block-capitals and the type-face is different.

    So that's one stage eliminated.
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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    I suspect you have some accidental settings in the batch converter dsps. Plus, have you tested that in ripping you don&*8217;t get the extra tags but they only get added when you run batch conversion to embed art.
    In BATCH CONVERTER:

    Information, Map, and Additions fields are empty.

    DSP Effects (lower box) is also empty.

    Currently in Deletions there is (still) ALBUMARTISTSORT and ARTISTSORT (because I removed these duplicate tags from a back-up drive/folder on Sunday [I think I also need to add: ALBUMSORT and TITLESORT to this list, so as to delete these additional unwanted tags which I only realized where there as of yesterday?]).

    In Manipulation there are 'values' for ARTWORK dimensions and size; Force Embedded To Jpeg (box is checked); and everything else here is unchecked.

    So that's how my BATCH CONVERTER 'ID Update' is set.

    I shall continue ...

    Cheers.

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YA...SmLIs5PplP7JKl
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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Hi,

    I ran the artwork conversion from folder to embedded in 'ID Tag Update'.

    I think I converted it correctly it (in regards to the artwork) because the folder-artwork-Jpeg has now disappeared from the containing folder:


    And NO additional duplications (eg. ALBUMARTIST) seem to have been created either; nor TILE and ALBUMSORT.

    Life is a mystery?!

    Paul
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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Hi,

    I ran the artwork conversion from folder to embedded in 'ID Tag Update'.

    I think I converted it correctly it (in regards to the artwork) because the folder-artwork-Jpeg has now disappeared from the containing folder:

    And NO additional duplications (eg. ALBUMARTIST) seem to have been created either; nor TILE and ALBUMSORT.

    Life is a mystery?!

    Paul
    Odd given that you said before that those tags got added when you ran batch converter. Hmmm, maybe something about the Sony software you were using added those duplicate tags.

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Odd given that you said before that those tags got added when you ran batch converter. Hmmm, maybe something about the Sony software you were using added those duplicate tags.
    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Odd given that you said before that those tags got added when you ran batch converter. Hmmm, maybe something about the Sony software you were using added those duplicate tags.
    Cheers Garym,

    I appreciate your help.

    It's a damn odd mystery!

    Just before I do anything else, I really would like to check with you please (just to be doubly-sure), if I may:

    when I want to use 'TD Tag Update' to REMOVE the duplicate/unwanted tags/fields from my ALREADY ART-EMBEDDED files, do I just delete the 'Import From' selection, and also uncheck the 'Force Embedded To Jpeg' box? You said earlier that if the wrong settings are applied then the art gets 're-embedded' again! As you can see in the screenshots, for the examples/tests this evening I have only used a single Madonna CD (rather than converting the whole 150GB - which took 6 and a half hours!, and still had ALBUMSORT and TITLESORT!).



    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 08-28-2018 at 05:15 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Yes on your two questions about art. Can you post something showing all your tags on the madonna album. You didnt post a pic of this. Also post a pic of the contents of your deletion tab.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Yes on your two questions about art. Can you post something showing all your tags on the madonna album. You didnt post a pic of this. Also post a pic of the contents of your deletion tab.
    Thanks for the confirmation.

    1- You mean the Madonna CD pre-ripped (ie. whilst sat in 'dBpa')?

    2 - You mean the DELETIONS tab in 'ID Tag Updater'?

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Thanks for the confirmation.

    1- You mean the Madonna CD pre-ripped (ie. whilst sat in 'dBpa')?

    2 - You mean the DELETIONS tab in 'ID Tag Updater'?
    1. I Mean Madonna cd after ripping and again after running convert to process embedding art.
    2. Yes

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    garym,

    Here are a couple of quickies:



    For some of the tags (eg. PRODUCER) I just wrote something generic as ripping/processing this CD was purely a means to an end.

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 08-28-2018 at 06:29 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    garym,

    Here are a couple of quickies:

    For some of the tags (eg. PRODUCER) I just wrote something generic as ripping/processing this CD was purely a means to an end.

    Paul
    I assume this is just after initial rip?

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    1. I Mean Madonna cd after ripping and again after running convert to process embedding art.
    2. Yes



    I'll try and grab some more ...

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    I assume this is just after initial rip?
    Those are PRE-rip (in 'dBpa) - though I don't think they change post-rip?

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Those are PRE-rip (in 'dBpa) - though I don't think they change post-rip?
    Dont know if they change. That&*8217;s what these tests are trying to figure out. That is, at what point do these extra tags get added. I&*8217;d want to see prerip, postrip, and post running batch conversion.

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