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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    Be careful. I have always tried to avoid using semi-colon and forward slash characters in my tags, as tag editing software use these characters as separators in multi-value tags. Historically, there have always been issues with users using AC/DC in the artist and album artist tags.
    AC/DC, became AC-DC in the folder view, but displays the / on all of my, non-Windows, apps. Others obviously weren't so lucky.

    Perhaps I should find a lightning symbol?
    Last edited by Oggy; 10-08-2017 at 11:31 AM.

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggy View Post
    I've never seen a > used, with the exception of, <seague> between two tracks from a 24/96 FLAC file. On both the LP and CD, these are listed as separate tracks, but the music is continuous, I changed it to /

    If you look at the track names from the metadata providers, most use / or - some have a space, on the LHS, some on the RHS, the rest a space either side - I use the latter.

    I really like the idea of using the > !
    Oggy,

    I do have some live Miles Davis 1970s CDs where the tracks segue (between disc 1 and disc 2). I have not made any such personal amendments. It's a bit to ahead of me at the moment.

    Cheers.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggy View Post
    I've never seen a > used...
    Visit Live Music Archive for many thousands of high quality (legal) live show downloads. Great stuff, all different genres. And you'll see lots of ">"
    https://archive.org/details/etree

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    Be careful. I have always tried to avoid using semi-colon and forward slash characters in my tags (unless as a separator), as tag editing software use these characters as separators in multi-value tags.

    Historically, there have always been issues with users using AC/DC in the artist and album artist tags.
    Excellent point. Looking closer, I see I use backslash rather than "/"

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    FWIW, when a composer is unknown, I use unknown, for dialog, interviews etc. I use n\a.

    For medleys (in the title) I use ~.
    mville,

    I have used 'unknown' for an unknown COMPOSER throughout.

    So for dialogue and interviews you use 'n\a'. A backwards slash as opposed to forwards?

    For a 'medley', I have written:

    (Medley) Blues / Jam In F Major / Drum Solo / Blues Refrain

    On the CDs it typically states:

    Medley: Blues / Jam In F Major / Drum Solo / Blues Refrain

    I prefer parentheses to a colon.

    Thanks,

    Paul

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Visit Live Music Archive for many thousands of high quality (legal) live show downloads. Great stuff, all different genres. And you'll see lots of ">"
    https://archive.org/details/etree
    Thanks, I've just looked<>!!!

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Do you mean if/when you open/edit your FLACs in a s/w other than Illustrate?
    Yes. If you search these forums I think you'll find users with issues when they wanted the artist to be AC/DC.

    I imagine that software that uses the forward slash character as a separator, interpreted AC/DC, not as a single artist but as 2 artists, AC and DC.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    I have used 'unknown' for an unknown COMPOSER throughout.

    So for dialogue and interviews you use 'n\a'. A backwards slash as opposed to forwards?
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    For a 'medley', I have written:
    (Medley) Blues / Jam In F Major / Drum Solo / Blues Refrain

    On the CDs it typically states:
    Medley: Blues / Jam In F Major / Drum Solo / Blues Refrain

    I prefer parentheses to a colon.
    Yes. That is your choice and is fine.

    However for me and the reasons given earlier, I don't want to use forward slash, if I can help it, so for me:
    Medley: Blues / Jam In F Major / Drum Solo / Blues Refrain

    becomes:
    Blues~Jam In F Major~Drum Solo~Blues Refrain

    and the tilde character ~ tells me the title consists of a medley (of titles).

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    mville,

    For MEDLEYS:

    (Medley) Blues / Jam In F Major / Drum Solo / Blues Refrain

    should I instead use:

    (Medley) Blues \ Jam In F Major \ Drum Solo \ Blues Refrain

    Thanks a lot.

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    However for me and the reasons given earlier, i don't want to use forward slash, if i can help it, so for me:
    Medley: Blues / jam in f major / drum solo / blues refrain

    becomes:
    Blues~jam in f major~drum solo~blues refrain

    and the tilde character ~ tells me the title consists of a medley (of titles).
    Thanks mville,

    That's great mate.

    I am going to make all the INTERVIEW tracks to an 'n\a' COMPOSER now.

    I never even used that '~' symbol ever before!

    And you have not experienced any issues with the '~' symbol appearing or being misinterpreted by different playback devices? I guess not.

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017 at 11:57 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    ... I only have a few 'medley' CDs. But this is how they now appear in Foobar:


    So you don't leave any space between each song title and the '~'?

    Is the '~' just a symbol you chose because it does not have any actually effect on anything? I mean, it does not have any actual function as such?
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017 at 12:09 PM. Reason: Insert Image

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    Excellent point. Looking closer, I see I use backslash rather than "/"
    I tried one using the forward slash, and for me, excepting in a Windows environment, it hasn't caused issues, so continued to use it. I am fully aware of the problematical symbols, and it could be that I've been lucky, but, so far, so good.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    for medleys:
    (medley) blues / jam in f major / drum solo / blues refrain

    should i instead use:
    (medley) blues \ jam in f major \ drum solo \ blues refrain
    It really is up to you. (Remember also that forward slash is an illegal filename character, so it will need handling).

    In this example (the Title tag), it will only be an issue for you if the software you use treats the Title tag as a multi-value tag and uses the forward slash as a multi-value tag separator (which is unlikely).

    However, I have been tagging my library for years and even Illustrate has moved the goalposts in this regard and as such has caused me many issues, historically.

    As a result, I now try to avoid the use of semi-colon and forward slash characters in my tags where I can (it gets difficult to avoid with genre and style), just in case the goalposts move once more.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    ... I only have a few 'medley' CDs. But this is how they now appear in Foobar:

    So you don't leave any space between each song title and the '~'?
    Correct.


    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Is the '~' just a symbol you chose because it does not have any actually effect on anything? I mean, it does not have any actual function as such?
    It may cause a problem, but I have yet to discover one. I could just as easily have used the > character, but such standards did not exist when I set off on my tagging marathon, many moons ago.

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Thanks Oggy,

    I have just been trying out the '~' kind suggestion and I have to say that I am favouring this format.

    In Foobar, if I search for '~', then all of the 'medleys' appear!

    I think I also prefer the visual appearance. In the attached Santana/McLaughlin (PNG) track, I saved 15 x characters; '(Medley)' swallowed up 8 of them!


    Cheers,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017 at 12:27 PM.

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