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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    I'm not sure about PRODUCER, LABEL, VENUE. But I'd guess they do NOT handle multiple values. So you'd be back to using "," or "/".
    Hi,

    I have totally killed off COMPOSER_SORT now.

    And am in the process of losing the '/' symbol - within VENUE and PRODUCER fields - in favour of a ',' (please see "Heavy Heart" - Carla Bley / "Master Strokes" - Bill Bruford):



    Cheers,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-07-2017 at 06:41 PM. Reason: screenshot

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Hi,

    I am editing an album (a compilation called "Stan Getz & Colleagues") which has (for one track) a rather long medley!:


    I have re-tagged the COMPOSERS properly (ie. with a ',' instead of '/'), but I am not sure which symbol I should use for the actual SONGS, please? As you can see, at the moment, they are still '/'.

    I would think the decision as to whether or not to tag as individual songs, or as a medley in it's own right, would depend upon if the user wanted the songs to show up - when running a search - as a whole, or as separate titles.

    This is the first time I have come across a 'medley' as yet.

    Many thanks in advance,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017 at 10:16 AM. Reason: Insert Image

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Hi,

    I am editing an album which has (for one track) a rather long medley:


    I have re-tagged the COMPOSERS properly (ie. with a ',' instead of '/'), but I am not sure which symbol I should used for the actual SONGS, please? As you can see, at the moment, they are still '/'.

    I would think the decision as to whether or not to tag it as individual songs or as a medley in it's own right would depend upon if the user wanted the songs to show up - when running a search - as a whole, or as separate titles.

    This is the first time I have come across a 'medley' as yet.

    Many thanks in advance,

    Paul
    Paul, I use / for medleys. Because of the forbidden Windows filename characters, this will show as - on Windows devices.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggy View Post
    Paul, I use / for medleys. Because of the forbidden Windows filename characters, this will show as - on Windows devices.
    Hi Oggy,

    Thanks for the fast response!

    Oh really? So no ',' or ';'! I should just leave it exactly as it is then?

    If you look at the very top field in the screenshot, then you will see a '-' separator, which I think is what you are specifically referring to?

    Cheers,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017 at 10:22 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Hi Oggy,

    Thanks for the fast response!

    Oh really? So no ',' or ';'! I should just leave it exactly as it is then?

    If you look at the very top field in the screenshot, then you will see a '-' separator, which I think is what you are specifically referring to?

    Cheers,

    Paul
    definitely NOT a semicolon. I use / or sometimes >

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    definitely NOT a semicolon. I use / or sometimes >
    Hi Gary,

    Thanks for clarifying.

    Does the '>' appear as a '>', please? And is this - for yourself - just more of a visual (aesthetic) preference to a '/', or does it have a specific function, please?

    Cheers,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017 at 10:38 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Hi Gary,

    Thanks for clarifying.

    Does the '>' appear as a '>', please? And is this - for yourself - just more of a visual (aesthetic) preference to a '/', or does it have a specific function, please?

    Cheers,

    Paul
    nothing special. I tend to use the ">" in live shows where one song blends into another. This has long been a common indicator of this by collectors of live "bootleg" shows. I use "/" on studio albums where there is a medley.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    nothing special. I tend to use the ">" in live shows where one song blends into another. This has long been a common indicator of this by collectors of live "bootleg" shows. I use "/" on studio albums where there is a medley.
    Thanks for the insight Gary.

    I think I will stick with the '/' as I have a lot on my plate as it is! I can always go back and change such symbols at a later date, if need be.

    Cheers,

    Paul

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Hi,

    I am tagging an album in which Chick Corea is playing and being interviewed by Marian McPartland.

    The format is basically:

    1 - Interview

    2 - Song

    3 - Interview

    4 - Song

    and so on ...

    Obviously the songs take care of themselves. But with the interviews, what do you place in COMPOSER? I would guess that the two options would be to state:

    'Chick Corea; Marian McPartland'

    or to state:

    'N/A' (non applicable)

    Many thanks,

    Paul

    EDIT: Interview.png
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 10-08-2017 at 12:22 PM. Reason: Insert Image

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Hi,

    I am tagging an album in which Chick Corea is playing and being interviewed by Marian McPartland.

    The format is basically:
    1 - Interview

    2 - Song

    3 - Interview

    4 - Song

    and so on ...

    Obviously the songs take care of themselves. But with the interviews, what do you place in COMPOSER? I would guess that the two options would be to state:

    'Chick Corea; Marian McPartland'

    or to state:

    'N/A' (non applicable)

    Many thanks,

    Paul
    If its not a song, I'd leave the COMPOSER tag blank.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Does the '>' appear as a '>', please? And is this - for yourself - just more of a visual (aesthetic) preference to a '/', or does it have a specific function, please?
    Be careful. I have always tried to avoid using semi-colon and forward slash characters in my tags (unless as a separator), as tag editing software use these characters as separators in multi-value tags.

    Historically, there have always been issues with users using AC/DC in the artist and album artist tags.
    Last edited by mville; 10-08-2017 at 12:24 PM. Reason: clarification

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    If its not a song, I'd leave the COMPOSER tag blank.
    Gary,

    Would you just leave it empty, or would you check the red-cross and DELETE the field completely, please?

    Or it is the same difference?

    Thanks,

    Paul

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    definitely NOT a semicolon. I use / or sometimes >
    I've never seen a > used, with the exception of, <segue> between two tracks from a 24/96 FLAC file. On both the LP and CD, these are listed as separate tracks, but the music is continuous, I changed it to /

    If you look at the track names from the metadata providers, most use / or - some have a space, on the LHS, some on the RHS, the rest a space either side - I use the latter.

    I really like the idea of using the > !

    This is all personal preference, as you can rename a song title, to anything you want.

    Choices!!
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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    but with the interviews, what do you place in composer? I would guess that the two options would be to state:

    'chick corea; marian mcpartland'

    or to state:

    'n/a' (non applicable)

    FWIW, when a composer is unknown, I use unknown, for dialog, interviews etc. I use n\a.

    For medleys (in the title) I use ~.
    Last edited by mville; 10-08-2017 at 12:25 PM.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    Be careful. I have always tried to avoid using semi-colon and forward slash characters in my tags, as tag editing software use these characters as separators in multi-value tags. Historically, there have always been issues with users using AC/DC in the artist and album artist tags.
    Thanks mville,

    Do you mean if/when you open/edit your FLACs in a s/w other than Illustrate?

    Paul

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