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  • monsterjazzlick
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Jul 2017
    • 1764

    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Hi mville,

    OK, I see.

    What if I had all of the YEAR tags containing just one single entry (ie. the album was RELEASED [eg. 1968]); and then a self-created RECORDED tag containing the year(s) the album was RECORDED?

    Knowing both the RELEASE and RECORDED YEARS are both important to me.

    Thanks,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 11-29-2017, 08:41 PM. Reason: spelling

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    • garym
      dBpoweramp Guru
      • Nov 2007
      • 5741

      Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

      Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
      Hi mville,

      OK, I see.

      What if I had all of the YEAR tags containing just one single entry (ie. the album was RELEASED [eg. 1968]); and then a self-created RECORDED tag containing the year(s) the album was RECORDED?

      Knowing both the RELEASE and RECORDED YEARS are both important to me.

      Thanks,

      Paul

      this makes more sense to me.

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      • monsterjazzlick
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Jul 2017
        • 1764

        Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

        this makes more sense to me.
        Hi Gary,

        Therefore, my question now is, please, what would you state in the self-created RECORDED field (this value would be for ALL tracks on a CD)?:
        RECORDED = 1973, 1974

        RECORDED = 1973 \ 1974

        RECORDED = 1973~1974

        The punctuations I have used so far in my tagging scheme are:

        , ; \ ~


        Thanks, a lot

        Paul
        Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 11-29-2017, 10:20 PM. Reason: spelling

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        • Jailhouse
          dBpoweramp Guru
          • Sep 2016
          • 388

          Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

          How about RECORDED = 1973-1974? That's a standard way of displaying a range of years.

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          • monsterjazzlick
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Jul 2017
            • 1764

            Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

            Originally posted by Jailhouse
            How about RECORDED = 1973-1974? That's a standard way of displaying a range of years.
            Nice one JH,

            I will settle for that!

            Cheers,

            Paul

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            • garym
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Nov 2007
              • 5741

              Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

              Originally posted by Jailhouse
              How about RECORDED = 1973-1974? That's a standard way of displaying a range of years.

              agree

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              • monsterjazzlick
                dBpoweramp Guru
                • Jul 2017
                • 1764

                Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                Originally posted by garym
                agree
                Cheers Gary. I have gone with that. Paul

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                • monsterjazzlick
                  dBpoweramp Guru
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 1764

                  Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                  Hi,

                  For 95%+ of my CD rips I am content with knowing just the PRODUCER. However, with the band 'Weather Report', I am most interested in their production side of things:

                  (Keyboardist) Joe Zawinul produced every album they made, but almost all of these albums had co-producers (who where always a band-member).

                  So, would you include the Co-Producers within the Producer field?:
                  PRODUCER = Joe Zawinul, Wayne Shorter, Jaco Pastorious

                  Or, would you create an exclusive tag here:
                  CO-PRODUCER = Wayne Shorter, Jaco Pastorious

                  As I say, this is only going to be for albums by 'Weather Report'.

                  Many thanks,

                  Paul
                  Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 11-30-2017, 04:12 PM. Reason: spelling

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                  • Jailhouse
                    dBpoweramp Guru
                    • Sep 2016
                    • 388

                    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                    Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                    [W]ould you include the Co-Producers within the Producer field?:
                    PRODUCER = Joe Zawinul, Wayne Shorter, Jaco Pastorious

                    Or, would you create an exclusive tag here:
                    CO-PRODUCER = Wayne Shorter, Jaco Pastorious

                    As I say, this is only going to be for albums by 'Weather Report'.
                    Unless you foresee using it for other than Weather Report, I wouldn't bother with creating a new tag. It wouldn't be difficult to add the tag later if you change your mind.
                    Last edited by Jailhouse; 11-30-2017, 06:25 PM. Reason: Rewording

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                    • monsterjazzlick
                      dBpoweramp Guru
                      • Jul 2017
                      • 1764

                      Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                      Originally posted by Jailhouse
                      Unless you foresee using it for other than Weather Report, I wouldn't bother with creating a new tag. It wouldn't be difficult to add the tag later if you change your mind.
                      Hi JH,

                      Correct, it would only be exclusively for this single band.

                      Paul

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                      • monsterjazzlick
                        dBpoweramp Guru
                        • Jul 2017
                        • 1764

                        Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                        Originally posted by Jailhouse
                        How about RECORDED = 1973-1974? That's a standard way of displaying a range of years.
                        Hi JH,

                        I have made the adjustments.

                        Do you think searching by YEAR will be OK with this scheme? Foobar seems to be fine at least.

                        Cheers,

                        Paul

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                        • Jailhouse
                          dBpoweramp Guru
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 388

                          Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

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                          Last edited by Jailhouse; 12-01-2017, 09:07 PM.

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                          • Jailhouse
                            dBpoweramp Guru
                            • Sep 2016
                            • 388

                            Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                            Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                            Do you think searching by YEAR will be OK with this scheme? Foobar seems to be fine at least.
                            I only considered the information, not searching on it.

                            A search of "1973" or "1974" or "1973-1974" should match RECORDED=1973-1974. "1973 1974" (note the space) should also match, as both of the query words are found in the tag. Searching with a query of "1973 1975" would fail as far as RECORDED is concerned because the tag doesn't include the second year.

                            This assumes that matches are found if all the words in the query are found in the data being searched. As an example, searching my foobar library for "Tom MP3" gives me a single result: the release on MP3 of Major Tom by Shiny Toy Guns. I don't get anything from Tom Grant or Tom Middleton, or Major Tom from David Bowie or Peter Schilling, because I don't have tracks in MP3 format for any of those artists.
                            Last edited by Jailhouse; 12-01-2017, 10:27 PM. Reason: Punctuation

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                            • monsterjazzlick
                              dBpoweramp Guru
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 1764

                              Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                              Originally posted by Jailhouse
                              I only considered the information, not searching on it.

                              A search of "1973" or "1974" or "1973-1974" should match RECORDED=1973-1974. "1973 1974" (note the space) should also match, as both of the query words are found in the tag. Searching with a query of "1973 1975" would fail as far as RECORDED is concerned because the tag doesn't include the second year.

                              This assumes that matches are found if all the words in the query are found in the data being searched. As an example, searching my foobar library for "Tom MP3" gives me a single result: the release on MP3 of Major Tom by Shiny Toy Guns. I don't get anything from Tom Grant or Tom Middleton, or Major Tom from David Bowie or Peter Schilling, because I don't have tracks in MP3 format for any of those artists.
                              Thanks JH,

                              That's very interesting.

                              I had not thought of a scenario where one might search for an album spanning a 2 year period, but with the query only including one of the years.

                              Also, I had not considered searching for a file-format; although I only have FLACs in my collection to date, and it is fairly likely to remain that way as far as I foresee.

                              Cheers,

                              Paul
                              Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 12-01-2017, 11:10 PM. Reason: spelling

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                              • Jailhouse
                                dBpoweramp Guru
                                • Sep 2016
                                • 388

                                Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                                Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                                I had not considered searching for a file-format; although I only have FLACs in my collection to date, and it is fairly likely to remain that way as far as I foresee.
                                Foobar searches all the metadata. (Maybe there is an exception, but I don't know of any.) I knew I had a version of Major Tom in MP3 and could count on it being the only result of a "Tom MP3" search, making it an excellent example.

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