Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

Why not?

In addition to my comments earlier, during my tagging exploits, I discovered that for some tracks the composer is literally unknown. I am now able to distinguish between this and tracks where I have not added the composer (as composer does not exist).

Hi mville,

For the simple reason than I have umpteen tags to deal with every rip. And I did read (a while ago) on here of a few people who do not use COMPOSERSORT tags (for what ever reason).

I think circa 95% of my tracks have the COMPOSER tag completed. Luckily, with Jazz Standards, because they are derived from shows/musicals (eg. 'West Side Story', 'My Fair Lady', etc) it is very easy to source the writers - who are typically: Rodgers & Hart, Cole Porter, Oscar Hammerstein, etc.

Cheers,

Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

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Hi,

When 'dBpa' scanned the 'Xmas Jazz' CD, it came up with the Artist as: 'The One Notes'. I think this is just a quirky generic name the record company must have thought up as the personnel is listed nowhere. Probably a play-on-words for 'Blue Note' (ie. record label).

Here are screenshots of the ID-Tag for the complete rip:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-dc...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bQf...ew?usp=sharing

Thanks a lot,

Paul

(Oggy - I decided to create an 'Xmas' folder in the end.)

[garym]

Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

I too use a "Christmas" genre. But I have about 100 xmas CDs.....

[mville]

Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

For the simple reason than I have umpteen tags to deal with every rip. And I did read (a while ago) on here of a few people who do not use COMPOSERSORT tags (for what ever reason).

I think circa 95% of my tracks have the COMPOSER tag completed. Luckily, with Jazz Standards, because they are derived from shows/musicals (eg. 'West Side Story', 'My Fair Lady', etc) it is very easy to source the writers - who are typically: Rodgers & Hart, Cole Porter, Oscar Hammerstein, etc.

I was wondering more about consistency.

For example, if you have artist = Bob Dylan and artist sort = Dylan, Bob, then Bob Dylan is sorted under D, in artist lists.

But if you only have composer = Bob Dylan, then Bod Dylan is sorted under B, in composer lists.

A little confusing to my mind.

[mville]

Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

I too use a "Christmas" genre. But I have about 100 xmas CDs.....

Me too... and I have an Xmas style

[mville]

Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

When 'dBpa' scanned the 'Xmas Jazz' CD, it came up with the Artist as: 'The One Notes'. I think this is just a quirky generic name the record company must have thought up as the personnel is listed nowhere. Probably a play-on-words for 'Blue Note' (ie. record label).

Here are screenshots of the ID-Tag for the complete rip:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-dc...ew?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bQf...ew?usp=sharing

The screenshot is showing The Cool Notes. The Cool Notes are an 80's band, from my neck of the woods.

[Oggy]

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Hi Paul,

Meant to mention, if you enter anything in the Genre box, you'll end up with Unknown Genre, so easier to enter something, at the time of rip.

I of course meant, if you don't enter anything... (leave Genre blank).

Recently helped a friend tag 100+ "Unknown Genre"; it was time consuming!

[Jailhouse]

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I too use a "Christmas" genre. But I have about 100 xmas CDs.....

Bah! Humbug!* The only "Christmas" album I own is The Lost Christmas Eve from Trans-Siberian Orchestra, which I bought after hearing an excerpt that was the soundtrack for a commercial. (A beer ad, if memory serves.) It doesn't need a special tag as it's not exactly "Silent Night"....


*I'm not a Christmas-y kind of guy and don't care for the seasonal songs. But for all of you do, have a great Christmas and enjoy the music!

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

I was wondering more about consistency.

For example, if you have artist = Bob Dylan and artist sort = Dylan, Bob, then Bob Dylan is sorted under D, in artist lists.

But if you only have composer = Bob Dylan, then Bod Dylan is sorted under B, in composer lists.

A little confusing to my mind.

Hi mville,

Yes, you are totally correct of course.

However, there will be a lot of donkey work involved in creating such a tag because very often (in Jazz at least) there are multiple personnel to include.

For example, this track is a medley (hence '~'!) and so requires multiple entries:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/103F...ew?usp=sharing

To place this in a SORT fashion would - I estimate - take a great deal of time. However, it may be something I add at a much later date once I have finished all of my ripping; but for now I am going to skip over it.

Cheers,

Paul

[monsterjazzlick]

Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

The screenshot is showing The Cool Notes. The Cool Notes are an 80's band, from my neck of the woods.

mville,

I did Google the, but it came up with perfumes and a bunch of other stuff!?

The only other option is to use: ARTIST = UNKNOWN (which I don't really want to do).

Thanks,

Paul

[Oggy]

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mville,

I did Google the, but it came up with perfumes and a bunch of other stuff!?

https://www.cool-notes.co.uk

[monsterjazzlick]

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www.cool-notes.co.uk

Hi Oggy,

That's interesting, thanks.

So should I write UNKNOWN for the Artist now, please?

Paul

[mville]

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So should I write UNKNOWN for the Artist now, please?

Why, when the artist is The Cool Notes? Does it not state the artist(s) anywhere on the CD case, artwork, CD?

[monsterjazzlick]

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Why, when the artist is The Cool Notes? Does it not state the artist(s) anywhere on the CD case, artwork, CD?

mville,

Because it's a Trumpet & Saxophone Jazzband on the CD. I took a listen to Oggy's link and it is clearly not the same band!

Cheers,

Paul

[mville]

Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

Because it's a Trumpet & Saxophone Jazzband on the CD. I took a listen to Oggy's link and it is clearly not the same band!

So no artist(s) listed? What about the CD album title? Any catalog numbers, barcodes etc?