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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    Why not?

    In addition to my comments earlier, during my tagging exploits, I discovered that for some tracks the composer is literally unknown. I am now able to distinguish between this and tracks where I have not added the composer (as composer does not exist).
    Hi mville,

    For the simple reason than I have umpteen tags to deal with every rip. And I did read (a while ago) on here of a few people who do not use COMPOSERSORT tags (for what ever reason).

    I think circa 95% of my tracks have the COMPOSER tag completed. Luckily, with Jazz Standards, because they are derived from shows/musicals (eg. 'West Side Story', 'My Fair Lady', etc) it is very easy to source the writers - who are typically: Rodgers & Hart, Cole Porter, Oscar Hammerstein, etc.

    Cheers,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 11-16-2017 at 10:03 AM. Reason: spelling

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Hi,

    When 'dBpa' scanned the 'Xmas Jazz' CD, it came up with the Artist as: 'The One Notes'. I think this is just a quirky generic name the record company must have thought up as the personnel is listed nowhere. Probably a play-on-words for 'Blue Note' (ie. record label).

    Here are screenshots of the ID-Tag for the complete rip:



    Thanks a lot,

    Paul

    (Oggy - I decided to create an 'Xmas' folder in the end.)
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 11-16-2017 at 10:12 AM. Reason: Insert Images

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    I too use a "Christmas" genre. But I have about 100 xmas CDs.....

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    For the simple reason than I have umpteen tags to deal with every rip. And I did read (a while ago) on here of a few people who do not use COMPOSERSORT tags (for what ever reason).

    I think circa 95% of my tracks have the COMPOSER tag completed. Luckily, with Jazz Standards, because they are derived from shows/musicals (eg. 'West Side Story', 'My Fair Lady', etc) it is very easy to source the writers - who are typically: Rodgers & Hart, Cole Porter, Oscar Hammerstein, etc.
    I was wondering more about consistency.

    For example, if you have artist = Bob Dylan and artist sort = Dylan, Bob, then Bob Dylan is sorted under D, in artist lists.

    But if you only have composer = Bob Dylan, then Bod Dylan is sorted under B, in composer lists.

    A little confusing to my mind.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    I too use a "Christmas" genre. But I have about 100 xmas CDs.....
    Me too... and I have an Xmas style

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    When 'dBpa' scanned the 'Xmas Jazz' CD, it came up with the Artist as: 'The One Notes'. I think this is just a quirky generic name the record company must have thought up as the personnel is listed nowhere. Probably a play-on-words for 'Blue Note' (ie. record label).

    Here are screenshots of the ID-Tag for the complete rip:
    The screenshot is showing The Cool Notes. The Cool Notes are an 80's band, from my neck of the woods.
    Last edited by mville; 11-16-2017 at 10:40 AM.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggy View Post
    Hi Paul,

    Meant to mention, if you enter anything in the Genre box, you'll end up with Unknown Genre, so easier to enter something, at the time of rip.
    I of course meant, if you don't enter anything... (leave Genre blank).

    Recently helped a friend tag 100+ "Unknown Genre"; it was time consuming!
    Last edited by Oggy; 11-16-2017 at 11:30 AM.

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    I too use a "Christmas" genre. But I have about 100 xmas CDs.....
    Bah! Humbug!* The only "Christmas" album I own is The Lost Christmas Eve from Trans-Siberian Orchestra, which I bought after hearing an excerpt that was the soundtrack for a commercial. (A beer ad, if memory serves.) It doesn't need a special tag as it's not exactly "Silent Night"....


    *I'm not a Christmas-y kind of guy and don't care for the seasonal songs. But for all of you do, have a great Christmas and enjoy the music!

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    I was wondering more about consistency.

    For example, if you have artist = Bob Dylan and artist sort = Dylan, Bob, then Bob Dylan is sorted under D, in artist lists.

    But if you only have composer = Bob Dylan, then Bod Dylan is sorted under B, in composer lists.

    A little confusing to my mind.
    Hi mville,

    Yes, you are totally correct of course.

    However, there will be a lot of donkey work involved in creating such a tag because very often (in Jazz at least) there are multiple personnel to include.

    For example, this track is a medley (hence '~'!) and so requires multiple entries:


    To place this in a SORT fashion would - I estimate - take a great deal of time. However, it may be something I add at a much later date once I have finished all of my ripping; but for now I am going to skip over it.

    Cheers,

    Paul

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    The screenshot is showing The Cool Notes. The Cool Notes are an 80's band, from my neck of the woods.
    mville,

    I did Google the, but it came up with perfumes and a bunch of other stuff!?

    The only other option is to use: ARTIST = UNKNOWN (which I don't really want to do).

    Thanks,

    Paul

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    mville,

    I did Google the, but it came up with perfumes and a bunch of other stuff!?
    www.cool-notes.co.uk
    Last edited by Oggy; 11-16-2017 at 03:00 PM.

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    Question Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggy View Post
    Hi Oggy,

    That's interesting, thanks.

    So should I write UNKNOWN for the Artist now, please?

    Paul

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    So should I write UNKNOWN for the Artist now, please?
    Why, when the artist is The Cool Notes? Does it not state the artist(s) anywhere on the CD case, artwork, CD?

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by mville View Post
    Why, when the artist is The Cool Notes? Does it not state the artist(s) anywhere on the CD case, artwork, CD?
    mville,

    Because it's a Trumpet & Saxophone Jazzband on the CD. I took a listen to Oggy's link and it is clearly not the same band!

    Cheers,

    Paul

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    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Quote Originally Posted by monsterjazzlick View Post
    Because it's a Trumpet & Saxophone Jazzband on the CD. I took a listen to Oggy's link and it is clearly not the same band!
    So no artist(s) listed? What about the CD album title? Any catalog numbers, barcodes etc?

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