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  • Jailhouse
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Sep 2016
    • 388

    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

    Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
    With reference to the aforementioned Haydn CD, sources appear to use:
    'Hoboken 1/92' and 'Hoboken 1/103'

    Usually, a slash indicates that the subject is number-something out-of-something. For example:
    1/5 = part-one out-of-five

    The 'Hoboken', suggests, to me, that this is in relation to the SYMPHONY number. But, why have a leading number '1' (ie. before the forward slash)? Obviously the latter number is the symphony number.

    I don't know how many symphonies Haydn composed, but if we said 125, then I would have thought the logging scheme would read:
    'Hoboken 103/125'
    The Hoboken Catalogue is sorted by musical genre. See the Wikipedia Hoboken Catalogue entry. Also see List of works by Joseph Haydn.

    P.S. the 1s are Roman numerals, so it's I/103 rather than 1/103.
    Last edited by Jailhouse; 05-03-2018, 08:43 PM. Reason: P.S.

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    • monsterjazzlick
      dBpoweramp Guru
      • Jul 2017
      • 1764

      Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

      Originally posted by mville
      I would let go of that idea as I suspect you will be editing your tags in the future.
      mville, well I dare say they might be the case; but I still hope it is not! Ha ha ...

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      • monsterjazzlick
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Jul 2017
        • 1764

        Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

        Originally posted by garym
        Yep, a never ending job as one reconsiders new ways to organize things in the future, or a new player doesn't work the same with your tag scheme, etc. The good news is that you never have to RIP your CDs again, if ripped to lossless FLAC. And tag editing is downright easy and quick (and sometimes can be done in bulk) as compared with ripping.
        garym,

        I will be going over some of my art-works, that's for sure. There are a good few I made at the start which can be improved on.

        Paul

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        • monsterjazzlick
          dBpoweramp Guru
          • Jul 2017
          • 1764

          Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

          Originally posted by Jailhouse
          The Hoboken Catalogue is sorted by musical genre. See the Wikipedia Hoboken Catalogue entry. Also see List of works by Joseph Haydn.

          P.S. the 1s are Roman numerals, so it's I/103 rather than 1/103.
          Thanks JH,

          That's very interesting and I did not know that at all! I shall amend the '1' to an 'I'.

          Cheers.

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          • Jailhouse
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Sep 2016
            • 388

            Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

            Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
            That's very interesting and I did not know that at all! I shall amend the '1' to an 'I'.
            I didn't know it, either. Google is my friend who finds these things for me.

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            • monsterjazzlick
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Jul 2017
              • 1764

              Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

              Originally posted by Jailhouse
              I didn't know it, either. Google is my friend who finds these things for me.
              Oh, OK. I kinda assumed you had some Haydn CDs in your collection and so had tagged them a certain way. To be honest, my eyes would not have noticed the 'I' instead of a '1'.

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              • Jailhouse
                dBpoweramp Guru
                • Sep 2016
                • 388

                Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                I kinda assumed you had some Haydn CDs in your collection and so had tagged them a certain way.
                The only Hoboken I knew of previously was the city in New Jersey, USA. I just had to find out what the heck Hoboken meant in relation to Haydn, which ultimately led to the links I posted.

                I do have a disc with Haydn's London Symphonies, but I won't tag the rips with the catalogue entries as I find them (along with opus or BWV numbers) unnecessary. In a case where a work is only referred to as, say, Opus 7, that will go in the title.

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                • monsterjazzlick
                  dBpoweramp Guru
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 1764

                  Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                  Originally posted by Jailhouse
                  The only Hoboken I knew of previously was the city in New Jersey, USA. I just had to find out what the heck Hoboken meant in relation to Haydn, which ultimately led to the links I posted.

                  I do have a disc with Haydn's London Symphonies, but I won't tag the rips with the catalogue entries as I find them (along with opus or BWV numbers) unnecessary. In a case where a work is only referred to as, say, Opus 7, that will go in the title.
                  OK, cheers.

                  I never knew it was a city either!

                  Most of my Haydn symphonies are on the Naxos label. They mix and match the order (ie. so that the CD content is not 'chronological'). A few of mine contain the 'London Symphonies' also.

                  (I have copied my so far ripped CDs from my external-HD to the C-drive of my new replacement laptop. I need to reinstall foobar next ...)

                  Paul

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                  • Twaldron64
                    • May 2018
                    • 1

                    Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                    I just purchased the software and I needed to have my downloaded home made cds tagged the software only tags them as unknown artists. I found that Roxio can tag the cd, can this software do the same what are the steps, thank you.

                    Tom

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                    • monsterjazzlick
                      dBpoweramp Guru
                      • Jul 2017
                      • 1764

                      Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                      Originally posted by Twaldron64
                      I just purchased the software and I needed to have my downloaded home made cds tagged the software only tags them as unknown artists. I found that Roxio can tag the cd, can this software do the same what are the steps, thank you.
                      Hi Tom,

                      I think you may be wiser in posting a dedicated thread to 'Roxio'; or else posting in a more appropriate thread.

                      Thanks.
                      Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 05-12-2018, 04:06 PM. Reason: spelling

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                      • garym
                        dBpoweramp Guru
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 5743

                        Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                        Originally posted by Twaldron64
                        I just purchased the software and I needed to have my downloaded home made cds tagged the software only tags them as unknown artists. I found that Roxio can tag the cd, can this software do the same what are the steps, thank you.

                        Tom
                        when you say "homemade" CDs, you mean your own music (where the titles wouldn't be in a database as with a commercial CD)? When you say Roxio can tag, do you mean automatically from an online data or manually by typing in the tag info (titles, etc.).

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                        • monsterjazzlick
                          dBpoweramp Guru
                          • Jul 2017
                          • 1764

                          Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                          Hi,

                          I am not sure if any of you are familiar with US dating gurus guy/businessman: David DeAngelo (Eban Pagan), but I have quite a few discs from his interview series. Basically, he interviews guys who are successful in the dating-world and they share their insights with each other. But it's actually a lot more than that in that it is almost a course in how to take control, and run, your life:

                          Anyway, I am not sure how to TAG the aforementioned. I was thinking:
                          Genre = Holistic

                          Style = Dating

                          or,
                          Genre = Self Improvement

                          Style = Interview

                          Secondly, because David DeAngelo is always the interviewer (I mean, it's his show), and he has a different guest for each CD. Therefore would you use:

                          Artist = John Smith

                          Album Artist = David DeAngelo

                          or,

                          Artist = David DeAngelo; John Smith

                          Album Artist = David DeAngelo

                          Here is a link to one of his interviews (from the exact series I am about to start ripping):

                          I would also like to point out that I have aldready ripped my 'meditation' CD collection (about 8 discs in all). These are relating to connecting with the higher consciousness, chakra balancing, etc. I tagged these as:
                          Genre = Holistic

                          Style = Meditation

                          And so, would one place the DeAngelo CD's under the same 'Holistic' category?

                          Many thanks in advance,

                          Paul
                          Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 05-18-2018, 08:58 PM. Reason: link

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                          • GaryG45
                            dBpoweramp Enthusiast
                            • Jan 2014
                            • 76

                            Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                            Paul,
                            Discogs would use Genre= Non-Music, and I've also seen Spoken Word used as a Genre. I would probably use Genre=Non-Music and Style=Interview. I would use your second choice for Artist and Album Artist.

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                            • monsterjazzlick
                              dBpoweramp Guru
                              • Jul 2017
                              • 1764

                              Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                              Originally posted by GaryG45
                              Discogs would use Genre= Non-Music, and I've also seen Spoken Word used as a Genre. I would probably use Genre=Non-Music and Style=Interview. I would use your second choice for Artist and Album Artist.
                              Thanks Gary,

                              I think I might actually go with:
                              Genre = Self Improvement

                              Style = Interview

                              Non-Music and Interview are (or imply, arguably) almost the same thing.

                              Thanks for clarifying my Artist and Album Artist question.

                              Paul

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                              • monsterjazzlick
                                dBpoweramp Guru
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 1764

                                Re: Tags, Tags, and more Tags ...

                                Hi,

                                I have actually tweaked the GENRE to: Self Development.

                                In relation to the above mentioned DeAngelo series, each CD is titled:'Interviews With Dating Gurus' followed by the interviewees name. For instance:
                                ALBUM: Interviews With Dating Gurus - John Smith

                                However, would you use a hyphen (as above) which appears by default in 'dBpa', or would one use a colon:
                                ALBUM: Interviews With Dating Gurus: John Smith

                                A pedantic as always question I admit!

                                Paul
                                Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 05-19-2018, 04:06 PM. Reason: spelling

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