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  • monsterjazzlick
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Jul 2017
    • 1764

    Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

    Hi,

    I am ripping the compilation CD 'Stockhausen / Kurtág - Gruppen; Grabstein Für Stephan; Stele':

    So, one work by Stockhausen and two by Kurtag. I went through this thread but I could not see the answer to my predicament. It's quite a basic question actually but I have not, as yet, ripped a 'classical' compilation like this one.

    For ALBUMARTIST, would you use:
    For all tracks - ALBUM ARTIST = Stockhousen; Kurtag

    Or,
    Track 1 - ALBUMARTIST = Kurtag

    Track 2 - ALBUM ARTIST = Stockhousen

    Track 3 - ALBUM ARTIST = Kurtag

    Track 4 - ALBUM ARTIST = Kurtag

    Track 5 - ALBUM ARTIST = Kurtag

    Or, even something different?

    Obviously the 'compilation' box is checked.

    The reason I ask, please, is because - with 'classicals' - sometimes rules can change a bit, if you know what I mean. Every 'classical' CD (esp. opera - 'Tristan & Isolde' took DAYS!) is throwing up new issues and so I wanted to double-check here first before ripping.

    Many thanks,

    Paul
    Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 11-04-2018, 06:25 PM. Reason: Link

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    • mville
      dBpoweramp Guru
      • Dec 2008
      • 4015

      Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

      Personally, I would keep ALBUM ARTIST consistent across all tracks of an album e.g.:
      ALBUM ARTIST = Various Artists
      OR
      ALBUM ARTIST = David Byrne; Brian Eno
      OR
      ALBUM ARTIST = Karlheinz Stockhausen; György Kurtág

      I foresee issues with player software and different Album Artists.

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      • garym
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 5743

        Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

        Originally posted by mville
        Personally, I would keep ALBUM ARTIST consistent across all tracks of an album e.g.:
        ALBUM ARTIST = Various Artists
        OR
        ALBUM ARTIST = David Byrne; Brian Eno
        OR
        ALBUM ARTIST = Karlheinz Stockhausen; György Kurtág

        I foresee issues with player software and different Album Artists.
        agree. That's the point of the ALBUM ARTIST field. Use ARTIST to hold actual artist info, but ALBUM ARTIST should be a single entry for the entire album. And in my own naming string, if I used a differing ALBUM ARTIST entries, the tracks would all be filed under different subfolders (which would be bad organization for me).

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        • monsterjazzlick
          dBpoweramp Guru
          • Jul 2017
          • 1764

          Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

          Originally posted by mville
          Personally, I would keep ALBUM ARTIST consistent across all tracks of an album e.g.:
          ALBUM ARTIST = Various Artists
          OR
          ALBUM ARTIST = David Byrne; Brian Eno
          OR
          ALBUM ARTIST = Karlheinz Stockhausen; György Kurtág

          I foresee issues with player software and different Album Artists.
          OK, cheers.

          For such scenarios I have used:
          ALBUM ARTIST = Various Artists

          in all my other GENRES.

          But as I say, I have found with 'classicals' that you sometimes end up having to bend the rules slightly here and there.

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          • monsterjazzlick
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Jul 2017
            • 1764

            Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

            Originally posted by garym
            agree. That's the point of the ALBUM ARTIST field. Use ARTIST to hold actual artist info, but ALBUM ARTIST should be a single entry for the entire album. And in my own naming string, if I used a differing ALBUM ARTIST entries, the tracks would all be filed under different subfolders (which would be bad organization for me).
            Thanks a lot.

            I have noticed a couple of quirks here and there in my other rips (dating back to mid-last-year). I will check over them at some point as I dare say the issue is related to the points being discussed in this recent discussion. It's only with 2 or 3 albums, so not too colossal.

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            • monsterjazzlick
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Jul 2017
              • 1764

              Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

              Originally posted by mville
              Personally, I would keep ALBUM ARTIST consistent across all tracks of an album e.g.:
              ALBUM ARTIST = Various Artists
              OR
              ALBUM ARTIST = David Byrne; Brian Eno
              OR
              ALBUM ARTIST = Karlheinz Stockhausen; György Kurtág

              I foresee issues with player software and different Album Artists.
              Hi,

              Just to double-check, while we are on the subject, do you also include an ALBUMARTISTSORT tag such as:
              ALBUMARTISTSORT = Various Artists

              Thanks.
              Last edited by monsterjazzlick; 11-05-2018, 02:31 PM. Reason: spelling

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              • mville
                dBpoweramp Guru
                • Dec 2008
                • 4015

                Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

                Originally posted by monsterjazzlick
                Just to double-check, while we are on the subject, do you also include an ALBUMARTISTSORT tag such as:
                ALBUMARTISTSORT = Various Artists
                Yes I do e.g.:
                ALBUM ARTIST = Various Artists
                ALBUM ARTIST SORT = Various Artists

                ALBUM ARTIST = David Byrne; Brian Eno
                ALBUM ARTIST SORT = Byrne, David; Eno, Brian

                ALBUM ARTIST = Karlheinz Stockhausen; György Kurtág
                ALBUM ARTIST SORT = Stockhausen, Karlheinz; Kurtág, György

                ... also, when my album is a compilation, then ALBUM ARTIST is always Various Artists.
                Last edited by mville; 11-05-2018, 03:27 PM. Reason: added compilation info

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                • monsterjazzlick
                  dBpoweramp Guru
                  • Jul 2017
                  • 1764

                  Re: Defining 'Compilation' (help?)

                  Originally posted by mville
                  Yes I do e.g.:
                  ALBUM ARTIST = Various Artists
                  ALBUM ARTIST SORT = Various Artists
                  That's great. I will use it on my 'classicals' also now.

                  Cheers.

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