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    Multiple Artists and merging tags

    I have been exploring the options available in DSP but I have been unable to find out how to do the following:

    1. I have ripped about 1000 albums, and manually divided multiple artist by ";" e.g Artist1; Artist 2; Artist3. (Most of my albums are classical and the three artists are typically soloist, orchestra, conductor) The Naim app only shows Artist1. I manually edited the ID tags on a test album to change the ";" to "," e.g Artist1, Artist2, Artist3. Naim now does show all three artists. My question is how can I make this change for all my albums without going though them manually?

    2. For compilation albums I would like to embed the Composer into the track Title. Is this possible? All my compilation albums are grouped together in one folder, some have various artists, but most have no artists (the metadata obtained through DBpoweramp being incorrect, but not worth entering manually)

    Finally. I understand that batch operations with DSP have to be carried out in the Batch Converter. My music is in flac format. Is it necessary to convert to WAV putting the results in a temporary file, then reconvert to flac?

    I should mention that I run DBpoweramp R16.1 on a Windows 10 PC, and AssetUPNP V5 on a QNAP NAS

    I will appreciate any help with these issues.

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    I have ripped about 1000 albums, and manually divided multiple artist by ";" e.g Artist1; Artist 2; Artist3. (Most of my albums are classical and the three artists are typically soloist, orchestra, conductor) The Naim app only shows Artist1. I manually edited the ID tags on a test album to change the ";" to "," e.g Artist1, Artist2, Artist3. Naim now does show all three artists. My question is how can I make this change for all my albums without going though them manually?
    The Naim app is not able to read multi-value tags, hence the behaviour you are seeing. So, converting Artist1; Artist 2; Artist3 to Artist1, Artist 2, Artist3 converts the multi-value tag to a single tag which will have consequences when browsing the Artist listings.

    You can accomplish this easily using MP3Tag.

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    For compilation albums I would like to embed the Composer into the track Title. Is this possible? All my compilation albums are grouped together in one folder, some have various artists, but most have no artists (the metadata obtained through DBpoweramp being incorrect, but not worth entering manually)
    Yes this is possible. Again, you can use MP3Tag or the dBpoweramp ID Tag Update utility codec

    Remember to backup your library, before performing these global tag edits.

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    Thank you for your help.

    I found Mp3tag intimidating, but after a few false starts I changed the ; separator to , for multiple artists in the 3 tracks in my test folder.

    I did not manage to add composer to the track title though. I tried the IDTag Update codec, but only managed to add composer to the track (file)name, not the track title.

    Your advice on where to find the required settings would be most welcome.

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    I found Mp3tag intimidating, but after a few false starts I changed the ; separator to , for multiple artists in the 3 tracks in my test folder.
    In MP3Tag, the Help menu >> Contents is very useful here. You can use the Replace action to replace ; with , (and save it in an action group for future reference).

    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    I did not manage to add composer to the track title though. I tried the IDTag Update codec, but only managed to add composer to the track (file)name, not the track title.

    Your advice on where to find the required settings would be most welcome.
    MP3Tag:
    Action >> Format value, Field: TITLE, Format String: %title%' ('%composer%')'

    ID Tag Update utility codec:
    Manipulation >> Rule Based Manipulation >> Rule Based Mapping (enter the following)
    IF Title=[anyvalue]
    SET Title=[Title] ([Composer])

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    I found Mp3tag intimidating, but after a few false starts I changed the ; separator to , for multiple artists in the 3 tracks in my test folder.
    Also, something to bear in mind is that different software often use different display separators for multi-value tags and that the separator can often be file format dependant.

    For flac files, dBpoweramp uses ; as the separator, whereas in MP3Tag the separator is \\, so in dBpoweramp you will see Artist1; Artist 2; Artist3 and in MP3Tag you will see Artist1\\Artist 2\\Artist3 for the same multi-value tag.

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    Thank you very much for your advice.

    I added composer to the title of about 700 tracks ripped from compilation Cds. I was very impressed by how quick this was using Mp3tag.

    As you suggested, I checked out the changes in the artist listing. This contains the combined artist tags, but I rarely search by artist because I have separate tags for soloist, orchestra and conductor, and I search for these in Advanced Search from AssetUPNP.

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    Thank you very much for your advice.

    I added composer to the title of about 700 tracks ripped from compilation Cds. I was very impressed by how quick this was using Mp3tag.
    No Problem. MP3Tag is an extremely useful, powerful and flexible tagging tool.

    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    As you suggested, I checked out the changes in the artist listing. This contains the combined artist tags, but I rarely search by artist because I have separate tags for soloist, orchestra and conductor, and I search for these in Advanced Search from AssetUPNP.
    Yes and remember, you can customize the Browse Tree in Asset UPnP i.e. you could create new containers for soloist, orchestra and conductor.

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    I used "Merge Duplicate fields" in Mp3tag, setting Artist as the field and ", " as the separator. This did exactly what I needed and avoided worrying about\\

    Thanks again for all your help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    I used "Merge Duplicate fields" in Mp3tag, setting Artist as the field and ", " as the separator. This did exactly what I needed and avoided worrying about\\

    Thanks again for all your help.
    Yes, the Merge duplicate fields action is exactly what you need in this scenario.

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    Re: Multiple Artists and merging tags

    Quote Originally Posted by davmurimd View Post
    I understand that batch operations with DSP have to be carried out in the Batch Converter. My music is in flac format. Is it necessary to convert to WAV putting the results in a temporary file, then reconvert to flac?
    No.

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