Cache size is not relevant.
Fans and Power supplies do not affect digital extraction of audio in the way that you are thinking.
Apple drives are just rebranded drives.
Cache size is not relevant.
Fans and Power supplies do not affect digital extraction of audio in the way that you are thinking.
Apple drives are just rebranded drives.
Spoon
www.dbpoweramp.com
Thanks for quick reply. Any recommendations on external enclosures & SATA to USB adapter for the Lite-On drives? If Apple drive is just a rebranded slim drive, then sounds like it would give poor accuracy like other slims, unless you have any recommendations for external slim drives for Mac or for PC? Otherwise best bets seem to be the external enclosure route for a hi-rated internal drive like the Lite-On for PC, unsure for MAC compatible drive.
I can't remember who makes the latest Superdrive, but the older one was Matshita / Panasonic, which I have bought and used. A full sized drive, like the Lite-On, will be a lot quicker ripping.
To go for an enclosure or an adaptor is solely down to the individual. I went the adaptor route with both SATA and ide / PATA, so I can use this with any DVD drive and HDDs. This works superbly, but is not as elegant as an enclosure.
As for a recommendation, a couple of friends both use different brands, all with good results. So price, features, seller feedback, reliability.
Last edited by Oggy; 04-18-2016 at 05:44 PM.
Sorry if I am missing something but following oddoc7 question 1 above, I too had the same question but cannot see that the subsequent replies answered this point. For example, at the moment after an initial search on ebay UK, I only seem to be able to find the sata version of the iHAS124, and cannot readily find an ATAPi version yet. Does this matter? Will the SATA version be just as reliable as the top rated ATAPi model?
Thanks
ATAPI are SCSI commands sent over the SATA bus, so any cd drive which is SATA is atapi.
Spoon
www.dbpoweramp.com
I am unclear about the accuracy computation: The Accuracy List 2016 says
Drive: PLEXTOR - CD-R PX-230A (131 users): Submissions: 6957 accurate, 118 inaccurate, 98.3322 % accuracyThe 2014 list says
Drive: PLEXTOR - CD-R PX-230A (126 users): Submissions: 6591 accurate, 56 inaccurate, 99.1575 % accuracySo if (big if) my understanding is correct in the last two years there are 5 new users of PX-230A but among the 131 (new and old) 230A users they submitted 6957-6591 = 366 new rips of which 118-56 = 62 were inaccurate! Now that seems bonkers, since it implies an accuracy of barely 83% on the new rips!!! What's going on?
BTW, the PX230A is still my favorite together with liteon ATAPI iHBS212. These are the fastest and most accurate drives I have (among a dozen or so). I have both a iHAS124 F and W, I like the F better than W, but the Bluray iHBS212 is usually the best. My standard workflow is to do 1 Pass on the PX230A or iHBS212 This results in an accurate rip in 90% of the cases in about 2 minutes. If not, polish the disk and try again in secure mode. If not start trying other drives.
Thanks! -- Ham
It probably means that people are using this drive to only rip discs they cannot rip with their other main drive, hence the high failure rate.
Spoon
www.dbpoweramp.com
Revision certainly matters. I suspect that iHAS124 W and F do not even have the same chipset, they use different numbering schemes for the firmware. (The W goes HL05, HL08, HL0A, HL0F, HL0G, a very common scheme for LiteOn, and some of these are shared with other drives. The F has CL09 and CL99.) I have both: can not tell you which is more accurate, but I can tell you that F is faster. (Of course YMMV and different specimens of the same drive might have different performance).
I use a 76 minutes long CD that is a bit worn out as a test disc (Helene Grimaud plays Bach, very nice BTW). Some drives can read all tracks on first pass, some need to re-rip a few frames, some need more than the 3 min max I allow per track. Both the F and the W can do it on the first pass but the W needs 5:44 while the F needs 2:11 and my beloved PX-230A needs just 1:56.
You can easily buy either off e-bay: just ask the seller for a picture of the label. I think the ones sold as iHAS124-14 are invariably F, and many are newish OEM while 124-04 are mostly W and used. About $20 incl shipping for a new OEM one is about right, but you can find a W or a B for less than $15. Good luck! (BTW, the cheapest way to collect drives is to go scavenging at a nearby e-waste center. :-).
Hope this helps! -- Ham
Last edited by HamLet; 07-24-2016 at 07:30 AM.
I recently bought an iHAS124-04 and got a revision D. It's fairly fast and accurate with your everyday CDs, but it instantly died on a copy protected CD. It didn't manage to accurately rip a single track. Still waiting for an iHAS124-14 and a PX-230A to arrive.
Same goes for the iHAS124-14 (reports itself as iHAS124 F). Both drives report to be capable of C2, but I don't trust them on that.
I just got done ripping about 200 CDs using EAC. To expedite things, I installed 3 optical drives: ATAPI iHAS124 W, ATAPI iHAS124 E, and an ASUS DRW-24B1ST c. It usually took between 3-6 minutes rip each CD using burst mode with AccurateRip. Out of the 200 CDs, I was getting a lot of errors but most turned out to be due to a thumb print on the CD from removing them from tight sleeves. Being more careful removing the CDs from the sleeves resulted excellent results overall, with the ASUS drive coming up with more errors than either of the Lite On drives. Both of the Lite On drives were about equal when it came to accuracy.
I wanted to post. It's Christmas Eve, and for myself for Christmas , I picked up a Lite-On iHAS124-03 W revision WU, and an Vantec enclosure. Got everything together and connected to my Win XP rip PC, in like 15 min. The drive is a lot quieter than the 2 Plextor PX-W4824TU's that have been my workhorses over the last 5 or so years. That Plextor is not the 230, but prices are rising even for that one. The Lite-On/Vantec combo cost less than $60. Have always been nervous about not being able to get Plextors as they get older and pricier, so I should be really set for the foreseeable future now. :-D
Hello,
I want to get a good drive for ripping my old CDs into FLACs. I'm new to the issue. My current rig doesn't have any drive at all because I think it's useless besides anything but ripping audio. So I didn't get any random drive while builing my PC. Now I want one with good accuracy. I live outside North America/EU so my options are much more limited in terms of what I can find over here. I found a model called Pioneer BDR-209EBK brand new for about 53USD. Is this a good model? Does anyone have this and can say anything about its accuracy? Thank you.
Hi. Could anyone please recommend an accurate drive for ripping CDs? My Windows machine is nearly ten years old and seems wobbly. I have an iMac, too, but I have noticed that ripping with an external SuperDrive often takes many times longer than ripping with my ancient Windows computer, so I wonder whether there is something wrong with it. I also have an external Blu-Ray reader/writer for the Mac.
I suppose I could replace the Windows computer, but what DVD drive or CD drive (if someone still makes those) should I buy for it? I get the sense that the obsolete drives rip most accurately, but does no one currently make a drive that can accurately extract the zeros and ones from an audio CD?
Thanks for any help.
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