How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

[eviL]

Ok, I heard that you can verify a previously ripped FLAC album with some software called CueTools.. What I need is a step-by-step guide of exactly how do I verify the album, probably using AccurateRup database or idk.. So yeah, that's what I need. Help please.

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

To verify previously ripped FLAC album, use PerfectTunes, from here:

http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?25788-PerfectTUNES

CueTools is a different (nonIllustrate program). A thread on it is here:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=66233&hl=cuetools

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

1. install perfecttunes from above link
2. go to Perfect tunes in program listing and execute ProgramTUNES Accuratereip
3. it will initially start looking for you music in a certain music subdirectory. Pause it, then select the tool icon in upper right, then you can remove directories or add directories. If you just want to examine a single album, add just that directory. Otherwise you can point it at the top level of your music directory and it will start checking ALL your albums for accuraterip match.

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

1. install perfecttunes from above link
2. go to Perfect tunes in program listing and execute ProgramTUNES Accuratereip
3. it will initially start looking for you music in a certain music subdirectory. Pause it, then select the tool icon in upper right, then you can remove directories or add directories. If you just want to examine a single album, add just that directory. Otherwise you can point it at the top level of your music directory and it will start checking ALL your albums for accuraterip match.

Is that the best way/program/most reliable for verifying FLAC rips?

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Ok, I tried to verify an album. Here's the result of Adele's '21':

Adele - 21
  Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6D980106]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\01 - Rolling In The Deep.flac
  Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 09C6DF36]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\02 - Rumour Has It.flac
  Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 81353C76]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\03 - Turning Tabels.flac
  Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8EE5CF59]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\04 - Don't You Remember.flac
  Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 7BE0A7D8]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\05 - Set Fire To The Rain.flac
  Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC DA41FB81]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\06 - He Won't Go.flac
  Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 1A3E111E]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\07 - Take It All.flac
  Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 655D8EA9]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\08 - I'll Be Waiting.flac
  Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 4D66062F]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\09 - One And Only.flac
  Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 242BF1C3]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\10 - Lovesong.flac
  Track 11: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 2E0B31F0]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\11 - Someone Like You.flac
  Track 12: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6152FD2B]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\12 - If It Hadn't Been For Love.flac
  Track 13: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 0F584945]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\13 - Hiding My Heart.flac

Does all that say that it's a perfect rip and 100% identical to the CD quality? What's offset +0 and ARv2...

[Spoon]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

>AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111

This means your rip matches 111 other rips, your rip is 100% identical to the CD.

Offset comes from either the CD drive or different batch of CDs (pressing runs), it does not affect the sound quality. ARv2 is the CRC method used to match.

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

>AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111

This means your rip matches 111 other rips, your rip is 100% identical to the CD.

Offset comes from either the CD drive or different batch of CDs (pressing runs), it does not affect the sound quality. ARv2 is the CRC method used to match.

So this is the most reliable/best way/program to verify if the rip has been properly ripped and identical to the CD quality?
And also, is there a way to verify just one file not a whole album?

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

So this is the most reliable/best way/program to verify if the rip has been properly ripped and identical to the CD quality?
And also, is there a way to verify just one file not a whole album?

yes, getting even "1" match to someone else's rip is excellent verification, and the best option available anywhere. No, you can't verify single tracks (yet), only albums as far as I know.,

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

yes, getting even "1" match to someone else's rip is excellent verification, and the best option available anywhere. No, you can't verify single tracks (yet), only albums as far as I know.,

Not sure who is developing the program but there should be an option for single-file verification.. Hopefully there will be in the future. Anyway, thanks for replying and helping. Always appreciated.


P.S. What does that mean:

CueTools is a different (nonIllustrate program). A thread on it is here:
http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...33&hl=cuetools

nonillustrate?

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Something's not right.

EAC extraction logfile from 19. November 2008, 23:30 for CD
Coldplay / Parachutes

Used drive  : ATAPI CDROM DRIVE-50MAX   Adapter: 0  ID: 3
Read mode   : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
Read offset correction : 12
Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No

Used output format : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe   (User Defined Encoder)
                     192 kBit/s
                     Additional command line options : -8 -A tukey(0.25) -A gauss(0.1875) -b 4096 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s --sector-align

Other options      : 
    Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
    Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
    Installed external ASPI interface


Track  1
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\01 - Coldplay - Don't Panic.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 47355552
     Copy CRC 47355552
     Copy OK

Track  2
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\02 - Coldplay - Shiver.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 7A2C30ED
     Copy CRC 7A2C30ED
     Copy OK

Track  3
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\03 - Coldplay - Spies.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 36C7F7C3
     Copy CRC 36C7F7C3
     Copy OK

Track  4
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\04 - Coldplay - Sparks.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC DA3F795B
     Copy CRC DA3F795B
     Copy OK

Track  5
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\05 - Coldplay - Yellow.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC C16BCE47
     Copy CRC C16BCE47
     Copy OK

Track  6
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\06 - Coldplay - Trouble.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.06

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 7986A29D
     Copy CRC 7986A29D
     Copy OK

Track  7
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\07 - Coldplay - Parachutes.wav

     Pre-gap length  0:00:00.02

     Peak level 82.2 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC FB11FE06
     Copy CRC FB11FE06
     Copy OK

Track  8
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\08 - Coldplay - High Speed.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC ABC0DE84
     Copy CRC ABC0DE84
     Copy OK

Track  9
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\09 - Coldplay - We Never Change.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 100.0 %
     Test CRC 17488E08
     Copy CRC 17488E08
     Copy OK

Track 10
     Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\10 - Coldplay - Everything's Not Lost.wav

     Peak level 100.0 %
     Track quality 99.9 %
     Test CRC BD0866A2
     Copy CRC BD0866A2
     Copy OK

No errors occured


End of status report

Coldplay - Parachutes
  Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC E17EAC17]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\01 - Coldplay - Don't Panic.flac
  Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8F4345FA]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\02 - Coldplay - Shiver.flac
  Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC AFD25F29]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\03 - Coldplay - Spies.flac
  Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 98934068]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\04 - Coldplay - Sparks.flac
  Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6605142A]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\05 - Coldplay - Yellow.flac
  Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 66CF23BF]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\06 - Coldplay - Trouble.flac
  Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 76094FDD]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\07 - Coldplay - Parachutes.flac
  Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 65D0CCD5]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\08 - Coldplay - High Speed.flac
  Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 23435BC4]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\09 - Coldplay - We Never Change.flac
  Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 91745DB1]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\10 - Coldplay - Everything's Not Lost.flac

The .log for 'Parachutes' says: Read offset correction : 12
The .log that PerfectTunes delivers in the end of verifying says: Offset +0

Why are those different?

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Also, CRCs dont match.

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Also, CRCs dont match.

perhaps this.

http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthread.php?23567-Various-accuraterip-results-on-a-disc&p=110074&viewfull=1*post110074

[Spoon]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

There are 2 offsets a drive offset and pressing offset, if a drive is ripped with the 'correct' offset, it will appear as pressing offset 0 for non-pressing discs.

[eviL]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Do I lose any quality if I split a single-flac album into multiple tracks(files)? I have John Lennon's "Imagine" in a single FLAC file and someone told me to use CUETools->Encode->Tracks->FLAC->libFLAC->8->Go.. in order to do that. So, do I lose quality? It's still lossless after that right?

P.S. Btw, I'm having a 00. HTOA track/file now which is placed before Track 01. Is that bad or something?

[garym]

Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

Do I lose any quality if I split a single-flac album into multiple tracks(files)? I have John Lennon's "Imagine" in a single FLAC file and someone told me to use CUETools->Encode->Tracks->FLAC->libFLAC->8->Go.. in order to do that. So, do I lose quality? It's still lossless after that right?

P.S. Btw, I'm having a 00. HTOA track/file now which is placed before Track 01. Is that bad or something?

no, one can spit a single flac with cue file into multiple tracks with no loss. still lossless. The one time I used cuetools, it also created a 00. HTOA track (which was not anything that played). Not sure why it did that, but didn't cause issues with other tracks created. Also, foobar2000 can convert a single flac/cue into separate flac tracks tool