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    Exclamation How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Ok, I heard that you can verify a previously ripped FLAC album with some software called CueTools.. What I need is a step-by-step guide of exactly how do I verify the album, probably using AccurateRup database or idk.. So yeah, that's what I need. Help please.

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    To verify previously ripped FLAC album, use PerfectTunes, from here:

    http://www.dbpoweramp.com/

    http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthre...8-PerfectTUNES

    CueTools is a different (nonIllustrate program). A thread on it is here:
    http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...33&hl=cuetools

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    1. install perfecttunes from above link
    2. go to Perfect tunes in program listing and execute ProgramTUNES Accuratereip
    3. it will initially start looking for you music in a certain music subdirectory. Pause it, then select the tool icon in upper right, then you can remove directories or add directories. If you just want to examine a single album, add just that directory. Otherwise you can point it at the top level of your music directory and it will start checking ALL your albums for accuraterip match.

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    1. install perfecttunes from above link
    2. go to Perfect tunes in program listing and execute ProgramTUNES Accuratereip
    3. it will initially start looking for you music in a certain music subdirectory. Pause it, then select the tool icon in upper right, then you can remove directories or add directories. If you just want to examine a single album, add just that directory. Otherwise you can point it at the top level of your music directory and it will start checking ALL your albums for accuraterip match.
    Is that the best way/program/most reliable for verifying FLAC rips?

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Ok, I tried to verify an album. Here's the result of Adele's '21':
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    Adele - 21
      Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6D980106]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\01 - Rolling In The Deep.flac
      Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 09C6DF36]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\02 - Rumour Has It.flac
      Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 81353C76]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\03 - Turning Tabels.flac
      Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8EE5CF59]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\04 - Don't You Remember.flac
      Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 7BE0A7D8]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\05 - Set Fire To The Rain.flac
      Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC DA41FB81]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\06 - He Won't Go.flac
      Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 1A3E111E]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\07 - Take It All.flac
      Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 655D8EA9]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\08 - I'll Be Waiting.flac
      Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 4D66062F]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\09 - One And Only.flac
      Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 242BF1C3]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\10 - Lovesong.flac
      Track 11: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 2E0B31F0]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\11 - Someone Like You.flac
      Track 12: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6152FD2B]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\12 - If It Hadn't Been For Love.flac
      Track 13: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 0F584945]  D:\Adele - 21 Limited Edition Flac\13 - Hiding My Heart.flac
    Does all that say that it's a perfect rip and 100% identical to the CD quality? What's offset +0 and ARv2...

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    >AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111

    This means your rip matches 111 other rips, your rip is 100% identical to the CD.

    Offset comes from either the CD drive or different batch of CDs (pressing runs), it does not affect the sound quality. ARv2 is the CRC method used to match.

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Quote Originally Posted by Spoon View Post
    >AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111

    This means your rip matches 111 other rips, your rip is 100% identical to the CD.

    Offset comes from either the CD drive or different batch of CDs (pressing runs), it does not affect the sound quality. ARv2 is the CRC method used to match.
    So this is the most reliable/best way/program to verify if the rip has been properly ripped and identical to the CD quality?
    And also, is there a way to verify just one file not a whole album?

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Quote Originally Posted by eviL View Post
    So this is the most reliable/best way/program to verify if the rip has been properly ripped and identical to the CD quality?
    And also, is there a way to verify just one file not a whole album?
    yes, getting even "1" match to someone else's rip is excellent verification, and the best option available anywhere. No, you can't verify single tracks (yet), only albums as far as I know.,

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Quote Originally Posted by garym View Post
    yes, getting even "1" match to someone else's rip is excellent verification, and the best option available anywhere. No, you can't verify single tracks (yet), only albums as far as I know.,
    Not sure who is developing the program but there should be an option for single-file verification.. Hopefully there will be in the future. Anyway, thanks for replying and helping. Always appreciated.


    P.S. What does that mean:
    CueTools is a different (nonIllustrate program). A thread on it is here:
    http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/...33&hl=cuetools
    nonillustrate?

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Something's not right.

    Code:
    EAC extraction logfile from 19. November 2008, 23:30 for CD
    Coldplay / Parachutes
    
    Used drive  : ATAPI CDROM DRIVE-50MAX   Adapter: 0  ID: 3
    Read mode   : Secure with NO C2, accurate stream, disable cache
    Read offset correction : 12
    Overread into Lead-In and Lead-Out : No
    
    Used output format : C:\Program Files\FLAC\flac.exe   (User Defined Encoder)
                         192 kBit/s
                         Additional command line options : -8 -A tukey(0.25) -A gauss(0.1875) -b 4096 -V -T "artist=%a" -T "title=%t" -T "album=%g" -T "date=%y" -T "tracknumber=%n" -T "genre=%m" %s --sector-align
    
    Other options      : 
        Fill up missing offset samples with silence : Yes
        Delete leading and trailing silent blocks : No
        Installed external ASPI interface
    
    
    Track  1
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\01 - Coldplay - Don't Panic.wav
    
         Pre-gap length  0:00:02.00
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 47355552
         Copy CRC 47355552
         Copy OK
    
    Track  2
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\02 - Coldplay - Shiver.wav
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 7A2C30ED
         Copy CRC 7A2C30ED
         Copy OK
    
    Track  3
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\03 - Coldplay - Spies.wav
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 36C7F7C3
         Copy CRC 36C7F7C3
         Copy OK
    
    Track  4
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\04 - Coldplay - Sparks.wav
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC DA3F795B
         Copy CRC DA3F795B
         Copy OK
    
    Track  5
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\05 - Coldplay - Yellow.wav
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC C16BCE47
         Copy CRC C16BCE47
         Copy OK
    
    Track  6
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\06 - Coldplay - Trouble.wav
    
         Pre-gap length  0:00:00.06
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 7986A29D
         Copy CRC 7986A29D
         Copy OK
    
    Track  7
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\07 - Coldplay - Parachutes.wav
    
         Pre-gap length  0:00:00.02
    
         Peak level 82.2 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC FB11FE06
         Copy CRC FB11FE06
         Copy OK
    
    Track  8
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\08 - Coldplay - High Speed.wav
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC ABC0DE84
         Copy CRC ABC0DE84
         Copy OK
    
    Track  9
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\09 - Coldplay - We Never Change.wav
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 100.0 %
         Test CRC 17488E08
         Copy CRC 17488E08
         Copy OK
    
    Track 10
         Filename F:\Uploads\Coldplay - Parachutes - special edition - 2CD - 2001 -  FLAC\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\10 - Coldplay - Everything's Not Lost.wav
    
         Peak level 100.0 %
         Track quality 99.9 %
         Test CRC BD0866A2
         Copy CRC BD0866A2
         Copy OK
    
    No errors occured
    
    
    End of status report
    Code:
    Coldplay - Parachutes
      Track 1: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC E17EAC17]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\01 - Coldplay - Don't Panic.flac
      Track 2: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 8F4345FA]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\02 - Coldplay - Shiver.flac
      Track 3: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC AFD25F29]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\03 - Coldplay - Spies.flac
      Track 4: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 98934068]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\04 - Coldplay - Sparks.flac
      Track 5: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 6605142A]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\05 - Coldplay - Yellow.flac
      Track 6: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 112, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 66CF23BF]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\06 - Coldplay - Trouble.flac
      Track 7: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 76094FDD]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\07 - Coldplay - Parachutes.flac
      Track 8: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 113, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 65D0CCD5]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\08 - Coldplay - High Speed.flac
      Track 9: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 114, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 23435BC4]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\09 - Coldplay - We Never Change.flac
      Track 10: AccurateRip Verified Confidence 111, Pressing Offset +0 [ARv2 CRC 91745DB1]  D:\Coldplay - Discography [FLAC]\Albums\2000 - Parachutes (2CD Special Edition) [FLAC]\Coldplay - Parachutes - 2001 - FLAC\10 - Coldplay - Everything's Not Lost.flac
    The .log for 'Parachutes' says: Read offset correction : 12
    The .log that PerfectTunes delivers in the end of verifying says: Offset +0

    Why are those different?

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Also, CRCs dont match.

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Quote Originally Posted by eviL View Post
    Also, CRCs dont match.
    perhaps this.
    http://forum.dbpoweramp.com/showthre...l=1*post110074

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    There are 2 offsets a drive offset and pressing offset, if a drive is ripped with the 'correct' offset, it will appear as pressing offset 0 for non-pressing discs.

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Do I lose any quality if I split a single-flac album into multiple tracks(files)? I have John Lennon's "Imagine" in a single FLAC file and someone told me to use CUETools->Encode->Tracks->FLAC->libFLAC->8->Go.. in order to do that. So, do I lose quality? It's still lossless after that right?

    P.S. Btw, I'm having a 00. HTOA track/file now which is placed before Track 01. Is that bad or something?

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    Re: How do I verify a ripped album(s)? [Step-by-step guide]

    Quote Originally Posted by eviL View Post
    Do I lose any quality if I split a single-flac album into multiple tracks(files)? I have John Lennon's "Imagine" in a single FLAC file and someone told me to use CUETools->Encode->Tracks->FLAC->libFLAC->8->Go.. in order to do that. So, do I lose quality? It's still lossless after that right?

    P.S. Btw, I'm having a 00. HTOA track/file now which is placed before Track 01. Is that bad or something?
    no, one can spit a single flac with cue file into multiple tracks with no loss. still lossless. The one time I used cuetools, it also created a 00. HTOA track (which was not anything that played). Not sure why it did that, but didn't cause issues with other tracks created. Also, foobar2000 can convert a single flac/cue into separate flac tracks tool

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