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  • garym
    dBpoweramp Guru
    • Nov 2007
    • 5743

    #31
    Re: The best format

    Originally posted by fschillizzi
    Hi garym. Excuse me, that's true flurn said about when ripping flac with replaygain tags the sound is "flat or subdued"???
    He said "I installed dbpoweramp and configured all the settings they give you on their website".
    I think he added DSP effect HDCD. I read that this DSP reduce the volume.
    I'm not sure I'm following your point or question. Ripping CDs to FLAC format with replaygain tags DOES NOTHING to affect sound quality (making it flat or subdued). These are just tags that tell players to decrease or increase the VOLUME when playing. So if replaygain tags made sound more "flat" then one would also have to say that turning the amplifier's volume control down would equally make the sound more "flat". Replaygain tags (and players that use them) are simply about automatic adjustment to average volume of playback. Furthermore, adding replaygain tags does NOT change the audio data at all. It remains bitperfect.

    If one is using the HDCD DSP there are lots of issues/settings one should be aware of. Once one uses the HDCD DSP, the tracks are no longer bitperfect back to the CD. And yes, there is some volume reduction with HDCD. I'm no expert on HDCD DSP (and don't even use it on the few HDCD CDs that I own). But there is a good discussion here:

    I apologize in advance for this lengthy post and its wordy questions, but after a lot of reading I'm still unsure what the best general approach is for ripping HDCDs, and from what I can tell there is no FAQ or definitive best practices recommended by illustrate. This might be a bit pedantic, but I'm really hoping those of you

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    • fschillizzi
      • Jul 2014
      • 8

      #32
      Re: The best format

      Thanks garym!
      So if I rip flac with replaygain tags and then I remove these tags I will get the same file of bitperfect audio that I would get if I rip flac without replaygain tags???

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      • garym
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 5743

        #33
        Re: The best format

        Originally posted by fschillizzi
        Thanks garym!
        So if I rip flac with replaygain tags and then I remove these tags I will get the same file of bitperfect audio that I would get if I rip flac without replaygain tags???
        yes. bit perfect audio would be the same with or without replaygain tag (or artist tag or album tag or genre tag, etc.). Tags in a file have nothing to do with whether the audio information in the file is bit perfect. A replaygain tag is no different from an ALBUM name tag, an ARTIST name tag, or TRACK NUMBER tag, etc. It's just a metadata tag like any other metadata tag.

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        • mville
          dBpoweramp Guru
          • Dec 2008
          • 4015

          #34
          Re: The best format

          Originally posted by fschillizzi
          So if I rip flac with replaygain tags and then I remove these tags I will get the same file of bitperfect audio that I would get if I rip flac without replaygain tags???
          Also, remember to use the non-destructive DSP ReplayGain, which writes tags to the files only.

          There is a destructive DSP, ReplayGain (Apply) which does alter the audio.

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          • garym
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Nov 2007
            • 5743

            #35
            Re: The best format

            Originally posted by mville
            Also, remember to use the non-destructive DSP ReplayGain, which writes tags to the files only.

            There is a destructive DSP, ReplayGain (Apply) which does alter the audio.
            good point. I always forget about the RG (Apply) DSP because I never use that one.

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            • fschillizzi
              • Jul 2014
              • 8

              #36
              Re: The best format

              Thanks again garym!
              Very clear post!

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              • fschillizzi
                • Jul 2014
                • 8

                #37
                Re: The best format

                Thanks mville!!

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