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  • almc2242
    • Dec 2006
    • 29

    #16
    Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

    Originally posted by garym
    There is no way to turn non-hires tracks into hires tracks. You can't add back information that is not there to begin with. You can purchase hires tracks of course. (but even many of those are simply 16/44.1 files upsampled to hires to sell to unsuspecting customers!). Also, do you realize that a number of well-conducted tests (double blind) have documented that listeners can't distinguish between 16/44.1 and 24/96 or 24/192 files (if such files are based on the same original mastering of the music). Some hires files are of course better (but not because they are hires, but because they are from a different and *better* mastering. And also keep in mind that there can even be problems with a hires file being worse than lowerres. See, for example,

    http://people.xiph.org/~xiphmont/demo/neil-young.html

    I guess you guys are the experts. I'm just a simple university professor trying to appreciate Jean Luc Ponty, Bill Evans, and Van C. who recently died. I have a large collection of High Fidelity Lab, Half Speed-Master, sounds from CBS among others. Can these be converted to HD Tracks? I also have Adobe Audition 3.0, Audacity, of course dBpoweramp, among other programs. I have about 6K CDs and DVDs. Can these LPs be remastered to HDTracks.

    (BTW, I.m answering from my Job (Hi Boss) and I'll post pictures in the PM.

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    • bhoar
      dBpoweramp Guru
      • Sep 2006
      • 1173

      #17
      Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

      Originally posted by almc2242
      I guess you guys are the experts. I'm just a simple university professor trying to appreciate Jean Luc Ponty, Bill Evans, and Van C. who recently died. I have a large collection of High Fidelity Lab, Half Speed-Master, sounds from CBS among others. Can these be converted to HD Tracks? I also have Adobe Audition 3.0, Audacity, of course dBpoweramp, among other programs. I have about 6K CDs and DVDs. Can these LPs be remastered to HDTracks.

      (BTW, I.m answering from my Job (Hi Boss) and I'll post pictures in the PM.
      Standard Audio CDs are 16-bit/44.1khz samples. If you use a lossless codec such as FLAC when you rip from CD, that's the best audio you're going to get from the source material. If you ripped to mp3 from the CD, you want to throw out the mp3s and re-rip from CDs to FLAC for the best possible copy.

      There's a CD variant on the market called HDCD that dbpoweramp supports both in ripping and in conversion that effectively gives you a little bit more dynamic range on supported players. I would guess that the vast majority of your CDs are not HDCD. But if some of them are, pull those ones aside that are marked with the HDCD logo and you can do a little bit with them either in conversion or with playback devices that recognize them. Look for this logo:

      For vinyl, I doubt very much that dbpoweramp is the program you want to start with.

      Brendan

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      • garym
        dBpoweramp Guru
        • Nov 2007
        • 5741

        #18
        Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

        Originally posted by almc2242
        I guess you guys are the experts. I'm just a simple university professor trying to appreciate Jean Luc Ponty, Bill Evans, and Van C. who recently died. I have a large collection of High Fidelity Lab, Half Speed-Master, sounds from CBS among others. Can these be converted to HD Tracks? I also have Adobe Audition 3.0, Audacity, of course dBpoweramp, among other programs. I have about 6K CDs and DVDs. Can these LPs be remastered to HDTracks.

        (BTW, I.m answering from my Job (Hi Boss) and I'll post pictures in the PM.
        Should be pretty simple. Any regular CDs you have you should rip to FLAC with dbpa. Don't do any changes to bitdepth, etc. Just rip and these will be bit perfect copies of the CDs. Half-speed CDs not sure. If they are redbook CDs (16/44.1) then they rip like any other CD. DVD-A can be ripped but not with dbpa. See this info.
        I have a bunch of DVD Audio discs left over from when I used to own an Acura TL which had a sound system that would play these. Sweet system. Is there anyway I can rip these into FLAC or better yet, AIFF format, and keep their original 24/96 quality? Thanks.


        LPs (vinyl?) can be converted to digital with various tools. And for these many people to turn into digital using 24/96 format. This is largely because this allows some "headroom" for doing some editing on these digital files (removing pops, clicks, etc.). Google a bit on "needle drops" "convert vinyl to digital" etc. to find lots of info on this.

        I've ripped about 10,000 CDs and have 1000s of vinyl albums but have never bothered to digitize the vinyl (still use my turntable for those). I have a few DVD-A and some audio on BluRay (Neil Young box set), but haven't bothered to try and rip. Most of my collection is normal CDs (redbook). Good luck.

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        • almc2242
          • Dec 2006
          • 29

          #19
          Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

          I would first like to thank everyone for their interesting and valuable input. Now then, has anyone tried this program? http://www.cirlinca.com/ . If so, please give me some input.

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          • garym
            dBpoweramp Guru
            • Nov 2007
            • 5741

            #20
            Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

            Originally posted by almc2242
            I would first like to thank everyone for their interesting and valuable input. Now then, has anyone tried this program? http://www.cirlinca.com/ . If so, please give me some input.
            Don't know anything about it. But this line in the webpage ad makes me nervous: "or want to give a new life to your CD collections" They are implying at least that you can turn 16/44.1 into something hires. That's snake oil of course. 1.000 is still equal to 1.000000000. But there's lots of snake oil being sold in the audiophile world. That said, it may be perfectly good program for ripping BluRay or DVD-A or doing Vinyl conversions. Don't know....

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            • garym
              dBpoweramp Guru
              • Nov 2007
              • 5741

              #21
              Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

              Here's a post I noticed today on vinyl ripping. Also searching hydrogenaudio.org on "vinyl" and "digital conversion" may lead you to a lot of good info. (Note Andy Ha-Ha's post with some useful info re: bitdepth and vinyl conversion).

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              • Spoon
                Administrator
                • Apr 2002
                • 43888

                #22
                Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                It is not possible to recover missing information in audio, once it has gone it is gone forever.
                Spoon
                www.dbpoweramp.com

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                • almc2242
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 29

                  #23
                  Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                  After all this conversation, which is very instructional. But I'm still back to one. The program isn't converting my MP3 files to FLAC.

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                  • garym
                    dBpoweramp Guru
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5741

                    #24
                    Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                    The first error you posted on this indicates that the file can't be opened. What if you try to convert the same file from mp3 to mp3? Does that work or also fail. Probably fails too, as it seems that dbpa is not being allowed to write the new file. Did you follow Spoon's instructions early on in this thread:

                    "It could be in windows 8 program's are not allowed to write to the desktop, try copy the music to the music folder then convert from there."

                    So put the files in a different folder (not the desktop) and then convert within that folder.
                    Last edited by garym; 03-28-2013, 11:46 AM.

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                    • almc2242
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 29

                      #25
                      Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                      Let me try that.

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                      • almc2242
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 29

                        #26
                        Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                        OK, it does. Inside My Music folder. I can convert to MP3. If I tried from FLAC to WAVE, it takes too long to do the process (aborting it). Also to FLAC to WAVE, it took to long also abort it.

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                        • garym
                          dBpoweramp Guru
                          • Nov 2007
                          • 5741

                          #27
                          Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                          Originally posted by almc2242
                          OK, it does. Inside My Music folder. I can convert to MP3. If I tried from FLAC to WAVE, it takes too long to do the process (aborting it). Also to FLAC to WAVE, it took to long also abort it.
                          are you saying the program aborts when trying to go from FLAC to WAV? Or are you saying it takes too long and you manually abort it?

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                          • almc2242
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 29

                            #28
                            Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                            It takes too long and "I" abort.

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                            • garym
                              dBpoweramp Guru
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 5741

                              #29
                              Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                              Originally posted by almc2242
                              It takes too long and "I" abort.
                              So even converting a single file from FLAC to WAV takes a long time? It should be a matter of seconds. Something odd is going on in your system/setup. I can convert from any format to almost any other format, and the conversion is pretty fast. before the problem was something relate windows not allowing files to be written to your desktop. But now you're converting within another folder. And mp3 to mp3 worked. So just not sure what's happening on your end. Odd.

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                              • almc2242
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 29

                                #30
                                Re: My program is saying it can't convert to FLAC, WHY?

                                This is what I mean when it is taking too much time in converting.



                                Its taking two hours to convert. from WAV to Flac for example.

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