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  • Blue Dude
    • Jun 2010
    • 9

    Issues with Oppo streaming

    I'm using Asset v3 beta to stream FLAC files (tagged with OGG tags), transcoded to LPCM, to an Oppo BDP-80. I have no problem getting the files to play, but the dynamic playlist is created in the wrong order. All the track 1's are listed first, then the track 2's, etc. This is true even with "Show as [disc][track][title]" selected. Static playlists are OK.

    Play, FF/rew, pause, stop, and time seek are all fine. Gapless playback would be a real plus, but I know that's hard to implement in this environment.

    Metadata doesn't seem to come across very well. I can view the track and title information in the listing, but when the now playing screen comes up, only the title at the top of the screen is shown. The metadata block with title(again), artist, album, and genre are empty. Also, the title often has spurious characters appended to the end. They don't appear on the playlist.

    Thanks for any help! Getting the sort problem worked out would make Asset usable for multidisc playback. The other items are just (slightly) annoying.
  • Spoon
    Administrator
    • Apr 2002
    • 43926

    #2
    Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

    Which dynamic playlist?
    Spoon
    www.dbpoweramp.com

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    • Blue Dude
      • Jun 2010
      • 9

      #3
      Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

      Well, I might have the terminology wrong. I mean the playlist that's generated when you browse to album, composer, etc. and begin playback. The tracks are not listed by disc, then track, but by track only.

      For troubleshooting purposes, I have only a single folder specified for music files. So when I browse for album, composer, etc, only that single album is listed. Within that album, the tracks are out of order.

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      • Spoon
        Administrator
        • Apr 2002
        • 43926

        #4
        Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

        Have you tried Asset Control (in the beta section of this forum)? just to browse the Asset tree to see what it appears like in that? (you will not be able to control the Oppo with it though).
        Spoon
        www.dbpoweramp.com

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        • Blue Dude
          • Jun 2010
          • 9

          #5
          Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

          It lists the same way with Asset Control, i.e. in track order vs. disc order.

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          • Spoon
            Administrator
            • Apr 2002
            • 43926

            #6
            Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

            How are your discs labeled in the tags? For FLAC it should be:

            1/3

            or

            2/2
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            • JoeBroesel
              • Dec 2008
              • 36

              #7
              Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

              Hi,
              this sounds like my Shostakovich problem:



              Who would like to listen to the movementes of a symphony in the wrong order?

              (Asset V3 Beta)

              Greetings from Bavaria to whereever you are
              from J.

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              • Blue Dude
                • Jun 2010
                • 9

                #8
                Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

                Originally posted by Spoon
                How are your discs labeled in the tags? For FLAC it should be:

                1/3

                or

                2/2
                This is perhaps the problem. My files are using a separate tag for disc and track, not disc/track. In the numbering schemes I've come across, x/y implies track x of y, not disc x, track y. I don't recall ever seeing the latter case, to be honest. What are the chances that Asset could use the disc tag if present before breaking down the track tag?

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                • Spoon
                  Administrator
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 43926

                  #9
                  Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

                  Joe,

                  Is that KinskyDesktop?
                  Spoon
                  www.dbpoweramp.com

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                  • Spoon
                    Administrator
                    • Apr 2002
                    • 43926

                    #10
                    Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

                    The disc number should be separate from track, you are using FLAC? if so the internal tags should be:

                    TRACKNUMBER=9
                    TOTALTRACKS=10
                    DISCNUMBER=1
                    TOTALDISCS=2
                    Spoon
                    www.dbpoweramp.com

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                    • Blue Dude
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 9

                      #11
                      Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

                      I am confused then.

                      For disc 2, track 9, I am using:
                      DISCNUMBER=2
                      TRACKNUMBER=09

                      I don't use TOTALTRACKS or TOTALDISCS.

                      The other relevant tags I'm using are: ALBUM, ARTIST, GENRE, and TITLE. I also have a few other tags, such as replaygain info, but I don't plan to use them here.
                      Last edited by Blue Dude; 07-01-2010, 10:04 AM.

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                      • Spoon
                        Administrator
                        • Apr 2002
                        • 43926

                        #12
                        Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

                        They have to be used otherwise disc 1 would not be known as part of a multi disc set.
                        Spoon
                        www.dbpoweramp.com

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                        • Blue Dude
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 9

                          #13
                          Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

                          Originally posted by Spoon
                          They have to be used otherwise disc 1 would not be known as part of a multi disc set.
                          I think it's safe to assume that if the DISCNUMBER tag is present, the track is part of a multi disc set. Even if that's not a good assumption, Asset would sort based on DISCNUMBER, even if that number is the same for each track in the entire folder, then by TRACKNUMBER. Asset would run out of tracks before iterating to the next DISCNUMBER, but so what? It would still be correct behavior. It would also permit sorting partial album sets and work with the tracks that are actually present instead of assuming that the entire album set is present. Why are TOTALTRACKS and TOTALDISCS required to sort files?

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                          • Spoon
                            Administrator
                            • Apr 2002
                            • 43926

                            #14
                            Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

                            TotalTracks is not used, it makes no difference, but TotalDiscs is needed.
                            Spoon
                            www.dbpoweramp.com

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                            • Blue Dude
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 9

                              #15
                              Re: Issues with Oppo streaming

                              I'm just trying to come up with a way to avoid retagging all my multi disc collections - if I even have a program that will place that tag. Could not the sort algorithm make the assumption that the largest value of DISCNUMBER of a given album in the folder is the same as TOTALDISCS, in the absence of the TOTALDISCS tag? The files should sort the same way regardless of knowing TOTALDISCS from the outset.

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