CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

[4sure]

I have Compaq CRD-8484B CD-ROM. CD Ripper v13.4 says it has C2 Error Detection but rips jerky, skipping tracks when enabled, smooth and clean if disabled. EAC denies C2, so no problem. Am I making mistakes anywhere?

[Spoon]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

You have run the test for C2 support?

[4sure]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

Yes, with the test CD described in the help, the Ripper prettily easily detects C2.

[Spoon]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

If it detected straight away then c2 might not be supported, try a detecting with a cd with no scratches, it should not detect c2 on that disc (or none for a long time when testing).

[4sure]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

You are right. C2 is not detected with a clean CD. Thanks.

[theanswer337]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

To follow up on this conversation, I just purchased a Plextor 880 external drive.
When I perform the C2 detection with a clean or damaged disc, it detected errors right away. I then re-ran the C2 detection immediately again with the clean disc and no errors were detected.

With every disc I attempt to rip, many of the tracks need to be re-ripped or they are classified as an error. If I disable C2 support, discs rip quickly and are verified with AccurateRip.

Is C2 not supported?

How critical is C2 pointers? I was hoping to upgrade my internal drive, but it seems I bought an expensive POS.

[theanswer337]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

What is the option 8KB transfers (C2 pointers over USB/Firewire)?

[Spoon]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

It is an option you can try if c2 appears to not work (like yours does).

[theanswer337]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 1' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 01 Cocaine.wav'
Track 1: Ripped LBA 0 to 16647 (3:41) in 0:49. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 01 Cocaine.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 86) [Pass 1, Ultra 1 to 3, Re-Rip 32 Frames]
CRC32: 3568829C AccurateRip CRC: E8B38C1E [DiscID: 009-000ccab7-005f685a-7a093709-1]

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 2' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 02 Wonderful Tonight.wav'
Track 2: Ripped LBA 16647 to 33542 (3:45) in 0:09. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 02 Wonderful Tonight.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 85) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 2CE6E4BE AccurateRip CRC: 6C6C6935 [DiscID: 009-000ccab7-005f685a-7a093709-2]

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 3' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 03 Lay Down Sally.wav'
Track 3: Ripped LBA 33542 to 51262 (3:56) in 0:09. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 03 Lay Down Sally.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 85) [Pass 1]
CRC32: B4F3D926 AccurateRip CRC: F8BC47D3 [DiscID: 009-000ccab7-005f685a-7a093709-3]

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 4' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 04 Next Time You See Her.wav'
Track 4: Ripped LBA 51262 to 69392 (4:01) in 0:08. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 04 Next Time You See Her.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 85) [Pass 1]
CRC32: D5071426 AccurateRip CRC: 48D15F92 [DiscID: 009-000ccab7-005f685a-7a093709-4]

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 5' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 05 We're All the Way.wav'
Track 5: ERROR Ripping LBA 69392 to 80937 (2:33) in 0:07. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 05 We're All the Way.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 80936 ripping 2 frames track end LBA 80937)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 6' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 06 The Core.wav'
Track 6: ERROR Ripping LBA 80937 to 120380 (8:45) in 0:18. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 06 The Core.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 120379 ripping 2 frames track end LBA 120380)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 7' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 07 May You Never.wav'
Track 7: Ripped LBA 120380 to 134025 (3:01) in 0:05. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 07 May You Never.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 84) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 4AF07C46 AccurateRip CRC: E2FCC172 [DiscID: 009-000ccab7-005f685a-7a093709-7]

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 8' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 08 Mean Old Frisco.wav'
Track 8: Ripped LBA 134025 to 155197 (4:42) in 0:08. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 08 Mean Old Frisco.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 84) [Pass 1]
CRC32: 0AB86E9D AccurateRip CRC: BD1A390A [DiscID: 009-000ccab7-005f685a-7a093709-8]

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 9' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 09 Peaches and Diesel.wav'
Track 9: Ripped LBA 155197 to 176945 (4:49) in 0:07. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 09 Peaches and Diesel.wav
AccurateRip: Accurate (confidence 85) [Pass 1]
CRC32: A3B3AF85 AccurateRip CRC: A58F0D81 [DiscID: 009-000ccab7-005f685a-7a093709-9]

[theanswer337]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

It is an option you can try if c2 appears to not work (like yours does).

When I check that box...

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 1' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 01 Cocaine.wav'
Track 1: ERROR Ripping LBA 0 to 16647 (3:41) in 0:03. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 01 Cocaine.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 0 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 16647)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 2' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 02 Wonderful Tonight.wav'
Track 2: ERROR Ripping LBA 16647 to 33542 (3:45) in 0:03. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 02 Wonderful Tonight.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 16647 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 33542)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 3' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 03 Lay Down Sally.wav'
Track 3: ERROR Ripping LBA 33542 to 51262 (3:56) in 0:03. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 03 Lay Down Sally.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 33542 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 51262)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 4' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 04 Next Time You See Her.wav'
Track 4: ERROR Ripping LBA 51262 to 69392 (4:01) in 0:02. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 04 Next Time You See Her.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 51262 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 69392)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 5' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 05 We're All the Way.wav'
Track 5: ERROR Ripping LBA 69392 to 80937 (2:33) in 0:02. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 05 We're All the Way.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 69392 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 80937)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 6' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 06 The Core.wav'
Track 6: ERROR Ripping LBA 80937 to 120380 (8:45) in 0:02. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 06 The Core.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 80937 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 120380)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 7' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 07 May You Never.wav'
Track 7: ERROR Ripping LBA 120380 to 134025 (3:01) in 0:02. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 07 May You Never.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 120380 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 134025)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 8' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 08 Mean Old Frisco.wav'
Track 8: ERROR Ripping LBA 134025 to 155197 (4:42) in 0:02. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 08 Mean Old Frisco.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 134025 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 155197)

Information ripping to Wave, 'Track 9' to 'C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 09 Peaches and Diesel.wav'
Track 9: ERROR Ripping LBA 155197 to 176945 (4:49) in 0:02. Filename: C:\Documents and Settings\Lee Gallagher\My Documents\My Music\Slowhand\Eric Clapton - 09 Peaches and Diesel.wav
Unable to read CD, check CD disc (frame LBA 155197 ripping 26 frames track end LBA 176945)

[theanswer337]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

Spoon,

How important is the C2 support? Since the 880 doesn't seem to support it (even though it claims to), is there a configuration of CD Ripper to try to overcome this. Perhaps with Ultra Pass, slower drive speed, etc.

Or should I return this drive and find a better one?

Thanks for your help?

[Spoon]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

C2 is an additional layer of protection, if your tracks are in AccurateRip then no problem, it is not required, but for those tracks not in AR it helps.

[theanswer337]

Re: CD Ripper reports C2 support, EAC Denies

Thank you